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#4076
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Time for the best romantic fanarts in this thread, and for both gender. 

 

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Goals.

 

Wow, I can't believe I had to dig all the way back to page 3 to find this thread!  Poor thing :(

 

I wasn't too interested in romancing Vivienne until I drew this, now I'm definitely feeling the love bug :crying: QQ

 

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#4077
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[DA]: You mentioned that the player can choose not to have Cole join the Inquisition. Are the other followers going to have an opinion?

[PW]: Oh, Maker, yes. Vivienne thinks Cole should be safely banished, and Sera refuses to talk to "it" entirely.

 

So Vivienne will not like Cole.


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#4078
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I was totally expecting this.

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I'll just have to make sure she doesn't try to banish him behind my back when they are in the party together.



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Well, I had a feeling this was going to happen, but I'm a fan of both characters. If I'm going to have to yell at both of them to settle their differences for the mission, then so be it! Varric is going to be there to be the middle ground for the two of them. 



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The mage (a Circle one at that) isn't okay with the demon? Surprise. Surprise. What I'm wondering is if this means she'll be ignoring him like Sera or just keeping a close eye on him.



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Yeah, I lol'd at the "Demon/ LOL Nope!" but I figured Viv and Sera would hate him. Also, I thought Bull would be distrustful of him but maybe only at first.



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I'll just have to make sure she doesn't try to banish him behind my back when they are in the party together.

 

To be fair, no one really likes or trusts Cole. :P

 

Except maybe IB.  But that's all I can think of.



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To be fair, no one really likes or trusts Cole. :P

 

Except maybe IB.  But that's all I can think of.

We don't know how the other 8 will react to him yet, so we can't really say that. 


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To be fair, no one really likes or trusts Cole. :P
 
Except maybe IB.  But that's all I can think of.

Yeah, and it was stated that all character hate or not trust Cole...where?

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We don't know how the other 8 will react to him yet, so we can't really say that. 

True. We already know Viv and Sera don't like him, I can't find any other reason for other companions to like or trust him. Maybe Solus might truly be intrigued by him so he'll gain a friend from that and of course, Iron bull. 



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Remember, the companions can start to develop friendships with each other as the story grows. I think all the opinions on the characters not liking or  liking each others are base off the first judgment. Think of Aveline and Isabelle, they couldn't stand each other at first, but they grew to tolerate and have a better understanding of each other. I think the same could happen through banter and story.  


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#4088
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True. We already know Viv and Sera don't like him, I can't find any other reason for other companions to like or trust him. Maybe Solus might truly be intrigued by him so he'll gain a friend from that and of course, Iron bull.

Dorian is a magister from the Imperium. I don't see him having much problems. Same for Blackwall due to him bein a Warden and his personality.

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Dorian is a magister from the Imperium. I don't see him having much problems. Same for Blackwall due to him bein a Warden and his personality.

Blackwall maybe, but yes, Dorian is a magister who sees Demons/spirits as tools and knows the harm they can cause. I doubt he'll look at Cole as a "friend". Maybe tolerate his presence, but nothing friendly.



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Blackwall maybe, but yes, Dorian is a magister who sees Demons/spirits as tools and knows the harm they can cause. I doubt he'll look at Cole as a "friend". Maybe tolerate his presence, but nothing friendly.

We have no clue how Dorian feels about demons. We can assume he's not as afraid of demons as the majority of people, but not how he feels about them or spirits.
Point being, it can go either way.

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We have no clue how Dorian feels about demons. We can assume he's not as afraid of demons as the majority of people, but not how he feels about them or spirits.
Point being, it can go either way.

Of course it's all speculation. But I'm just going off what we know about tevinter magisters. Point is, what we know of magisters is that they are pretty darn good at manipulating demons. They most likely don't trust them at all (and who would?). What we know about Dorian is that he isn't exactly approving of the tevinter magistrate. This could be the whole blood magic, mass killing of slaves to fuel spells and back stabbings that go on there. If this is true, then I doubt he'll be hunky dory with a demon/spirit or blood mages in general. 

 

We shall see. (Better get back on topic lol)



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Of course it's all speculation. But I'm just going off what we know about tevinter magisters. Point is, what we know of magisters is that they are pretty darn good at manipulating demons. They most likely don't trust them at all (and who would?). What we know about Dorian is that he isn't exactly approving of the tevinter magistrate. This could be the whole blood magic, mass killing of slaves to fuel spells and back stabbings that go on there. If this is true, then I doubt he'll be hunky dory with a demon/spirit or blood mages in general. 

 

We shall see. (Better get back on topic lol)

 

I think Dorian will be as much a subversion of Magisters as Varric was a subversion of dwarves. 



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Lupita as young Vivienne tbh


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hmm since Vivi hates Cole , I just thought , what if party members had like/dislike meter too , and if it rises to much they ask inquisitor to kick someone , for example Vivi dislike meter through questing in world various replies from npcs drops to negative -5. Then she comes to inquisitor and demands to kick Cole from team. And if u refuse she leaves. Or better later in the game they go into argument over smth and goes 1vs1 and one of them dies. Now that would be cool , and your choices would matter even more.



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hmm since Vivi hates Cole , I just thought , what if party members had like/dislike meter too , and if it rises to much they ask inquisitor to kick someone , for example Vivi dislike meter through questing in world various replies from npcs drops to negative -5. Then she comes to inquisitor and demands to kick Cole from team. And if u refuse she leaves. Or better later in the game they go into argument over smth and goes 1vs1 and one of them dies. Now that would be cool , and your choices would matter even more.

 

 

Would make it a bit tense for me, I would be afraid of taking peeps in the same party.

 

Cole's profile says Vivienne wants him safely banished, but she does not go as far as Sera who calls him it, don't blame them though.

 

On a friendship level, Cole seems very emotional, and Madame Der Fer as we know has her priorities, so it will be difficult to get them to show some love is what I'm thinking. Hope we can get them to play nice.



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hmm since Vivi hates Cole , I just thought , what if party members had like/dislike meter too , and if it rises to much they ask inquisitor to kick someone , for example Vivi dislike meter through questing in world various replies from npcs drops to negative -5. Then she comes to inquisitor and demands to kick Cole from team. And if u refuse she leaves. Or better later in the game they go into argument over smth and goes 1vs1 and one of them dies. Now that would be cool , and your choices would matter even more.

 

That sounds like it'd be a bit of a pain in the butt to track (both for the player and devs). I'd also think it runs the risk of being counter-intuitive to the idea of certain characters providing different outcomes to a mission. There's also the possibility of a character's popularity taking a serious hit if the reason for the dislike is considered "petty". Leaving because the Inquisitor is going against what the character believes in is one thing; leaving because someone gets on your nerves too much is an entirely different thing.



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hmm since Vivi hates Cole , I just thought , what if party members had like/dislike meter too , and if it rises to much they ask inquisitor to kick someone , for example Vivi dislike meter through questing in world various replies from npcs drops to negative -5. Then she comes to inquisitor and demands to kick Cole from team. And if u refuse she leaves. Or better later in the game they go into argument over smth and goes 1vs1 and one of them dies. Now that would be cool , and your choices would matter even more.

 

How would that work exactly though? The companions all have their own stories and the player does not control their characters (only in battles). Sure if you don't recruit Cole then the scene with Viv would never happen but if you do then why would you need a meter? It would be better as a scripted part of the plot like the Alistair vs Loghain and Anders vs Sebastian thing. 

 

Anyway I generally hate it if I am constantly having to keep my companions happy just so they wont leave. I'm not saying all the companions should stay with you no matter what but reasons for leaving should should be story specific, not based on meters. 


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Cole's pretty friendly as long as you're not trying to hurt him or his friends. He's not exactly a spirit, he has his own personality and is corporeal but he's also connected to the Fade. Vivienne most likely knows about what happened during Asunder and that might be the reason why she has reservations.
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Cole's pretty friendly as long as you're not trying to hurt him or his friends. He's not exactly a spirit, he has his own personality and is corporeal but he's also connected to the Fade. Vivienne most likely knows about what happened during Asunder and that might be the reason why she has reservations.

Off-topic, but Dr.Doctor, you need to go to party banter thread, and do a couple of banters! 

 

She probably won't believe all of it, until she actually meets and talk with Cole. 



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How would that work exactly though? The companions all have their own stories and the player does not control their characters (only in battles). Sure if you don't recruit Cole then the scene with Viv would never happen but if you do then why would you need a meter? It would be better as a scripted part of the plot like the Alistair vs Loghain and Anders vs Sebastian thing.


I recall in BG 2, companions would argue with one another and if the situation got heated enough, they would eventually fight and kill each other. In ME 2, you also had breaking points where you had to pick Legion/Tali or Miranda/Jack (unless your paragon/renegade points were high enough) and you'd lose the loyalty of whomever you didn't pick.

I suppose either of those could work.