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[Fizzie Panda]

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Anyway I generally hate it if I am constantly having to keep my companions happy just so they wont leave. I'm not saying all the companions should stay with you no matter what but reasons for leaving should should be story specific, not based on meters. 

YES!! I agree completely, it might not be fun if we have to constantly keep them happy. But then I guess the people you don't like you can neglect and they'll leave. But that means we might not have enough war assets for the final battl... I mean renown.

 

Edit: And on the topic of Vivienne, I was just thinking: they said Vivienne doesn't like and Inquisition MAGE, and Cole is no mage. So, who does Vivienne not get along with?

 

Dorian, Solas? Morrigan? (Is she even gonna join?)

[Neesa]

Morrigan will be part of the Inquisition according to the Playstation Access interview with Cameron Lee. However, seeing as we knew of her before  that tidbit about Vivienne was revealed, it boils down to either Solas or Dorian. I'm going with Solas as I suspect that Dorian will be more concerned with staying on everyone's good side to be getting into "explosive" arguments with Vivienne (not to say that he won't have disagreements with her).

[mikeymoonshine]

I recall in BG 2, companions would argue with one another and if the situation got heated enough, they would eventually fight and kill each other. In ME 2, you also had breaking points where you had to pick Legion/Tali or Miranda/Jack (unless your paragon/renegade points were high enough) and you'd lose the loyalty of whomever you didn't pick.

I suppose either of those could work.

 

Ah ok, I never played BG (I will at some point) were you given options to defuse the conflict or just to keep them away from each other? As for Me2 that wasn't really based on a meter, it always happens if you have these companions in your team which was what I meant. The only thing that I didn't like about it was that you had to have enough paragon or renegade to keep them all loyal and the only way to do that was to be pretty much full on paragon or renegade throughout the entire game. So middling players got shafted. 

[mikeymoonshine]

YES!! I agree completely, it might not be fun if we have to constantly keep them happy. But then I guess the people you don't like you can neglect and they'll leave. But that means we might not have enough war assets for the final battl... I mean renown.

 

Edit: And on the topic of Vivienne, I was just thinking: they said Vivienne doesn't like and Inquisition MAGE, and Cole is no mage. So, who does Vivienne not get along with?

 

Dorian, Solas? Morrigan? (Is she even gonna join?)

 

I don't mind if a few do leave because of some choices your character might make I just don't want it to be too severe. Companions should have the ability to compromise and to agree to disagree, you should even be able to change their minds about some things sometimes. 

 

 I thinkj Vivienne probably just thinks cole is dangerous and should be banished to the fade. It sounded like that unknonw mage is the person she got on with the least. "her interactions with a certain unnamed Inquisition mage can be a little… explosive. In a good way. Mostly."

 

I don't think it's Morrigan but I think they will probably clash a bit too. For some reason I am guessing Solas but it could be Dorian I guess. 

[revan11exile]

I am pretty sure that Cullen and Varic will have a problem with Cole as well since those two know what spirits can do to people.I think the Inquisition team should have a real vote if Cole should be apart of the team that would be cool.So do you guys think if this happens Viv will leave or just get over it? 

[LobselVith8]

I am pretty sure that Cullen and Varic will have a problem with Cole as well since those two know what spirits can do to people.I think the Inquisition team should have a real vote if Cole should be apart of the team that would be cool.So do you guys think if this happens Viv will leave or just get over it? 

 

I don't imagine Cole's inclusion will be voted on, since the Inquisitor seems to be the one who makes the decision and shapes the organization (even if Cassandra seems to be the one who initially establishes it as part of Justinia's protocol). It might be similar to The Warden recruiting Zevran, where disapproval is expressed by some companions, but it's ultimately up to the main character whether he is recruited or not.

[mikeymoonshine]

I am pretty sure that Cullen and Varic will have a problem with Cole as well since those two know what spirits can do to people.I think the Inquisition team should have a real vote if Cole should be apart of the team that would be cool.So do you guys think if this happens Viv will leave or just get over it? 

 

I dunno about Varric tbh. He was sort of friends with Anders but he always saw him as kinda dangerous. I think he would be wary of Cole but I don't think he would hate him. Then again DA2's events could have changed him allot, we know he dislikes Qunari now. 

[WildOrchid]

I dunno about Varric tbh. He was sort of friends with Anders but he always saw him as kinda dangerous. I think he would be wary of Cole but I don't think he would hate him. Then again DA2's events could have changed him allot, we know he dislikes Qunari now. 

 

Yeah i can see Varric having more issues with IB than Cole tbh.

[DarthLaxian]

I share that sentiment 

 

Not with those clothes ^^ (she is quite beautiful - but clothes that lack practicability (meaning: stuff that makes you trip over it if you are not carefull, easily rips, does not hold up in the wash etc.) are a turn off for me...like handbags (glad they didn't have those back then...stupid things...women don't seem to know that they are allowed to have trouser pockets now...-.-), heels etc.)

 

Otherwise, I can agree on the sentiment of wanting her, too (at least physically...her oppinion on mages wanting freedom puts her at odds with me, too...chantry appologist (at least that's how I see her)...even worsen than human sacrificing bloodmages to me, at least the later try to do something (even if it is wrong!))

 

greetings LAX

[Jewlie Ghoulie]

Just dropping in to say in liking Vivienne so far! :3 really, I'm liking all the companions we know something about but Vivienne is definitely showing promise and the one I'm probably looking forward to getting to know the most about when it comes to the new companions.

[In Exile]

Yeah i can see Varric having more issues with IB than Cole tbh.

 

I dunno, IB sounds like the kind of personality Varric could get along with. To me, Viv sounds like the kind of character he'd pick on.

[WildOrchid]

I dunno, IB sounds like the kind of personality Varric could get along with. To me, Viv sounds like the kind of character he'd pick on.

 

Well, that info about IB...

 

[DA]: You said “just about everyone.” Are there people that he doesn’t get along with?

[PW]: The only folks The Iron Bull has trouble with are those who go looking for fights about the Qunari. He isn’t trying to convert anybody, but he’s not going to apologize for his way of life, and people like Varric, who saw the Qunari at their worst in Kirkwall, might take that the wrong way.

 

 

I expect there would be some clash between IB and Varric.. but knowing Varric, i'll expect he and IB will be on good terms later on.

[In Exile]

Well, that info about IB...

 

[DA]: You said “just about everyone.” Are there people that he doesn’t get along with?

[PW]: The only folks The Iron Bull has trouble with are those who go looking for fights about the Qunari. He isn’t trying to convert anybody, but he’s not going to apologize for his way of life, and people like Varric, who saw the Qunari at their worst in Kirkwall, might take that the wrong way.

 

 

I expect there would be some clash between IB and Varric.. but knowing Varric, i'll expect he and IB will be on good terms later on.

 

Interesting. I wouldn't have seen Varric in that light, mostly because he never mentioned it after it happened in DA2. 

[Queen of Evil]

Tentatively steps into the Vivienne thread for the first time. Now, to begin my exploration...

[Cespar]

My little banter for Vivienne, because I'm hoping that she surprise a lot of players. Right now she is leaving a bad taste, and I'm hoping that she is more to what people "think" they know. And, even myself, I hope I get something out of her that I'm not expecting. 

 

Cassandra/Vivienne

 

Cassandra: What's it that you exactly stand for, Vivienne?

 

Vivienne: Why do you ask, dear? Believe I may turn on you? Stand with my fellow mages?

 

Cassandra: Would you if it came to that?

 

Vivienne: Dear, I believe in order and tradition, but what the mages and templars are doing … it isn't what I stand for.

 

Cassandra: You surprise me sometimes, Vivienne. Hopefully, the Inquisitor can close up these veil, and maybe we can settle everything.

 

Vivienne: Hopefully dear, hopefully. 

[Zandilar]

Same. Equality in sexuality/gender is the best idea imo.

 

 

 

 

If Viv is 'ice queen' and bi, i think that would be refreshing for the gay ladies. We've never had this kind of LI. We tend to get the cute/awkward type of ladies. I'm also glad Sera doesn't sound 'cute'.

 

I know this is from a few pages back but...

 

We (gay/bi ladies) haven't had knightly/warrior woman type LI either. In fact, the majority of bi lady LIs in DA games have been rogues or rogue types (Leliana, Isabela, Tallis... The only exception being Merrill). So either Viv or Cass would be an exception.

 

If I had my way, both Viv and Cass would be bi, and I would almost certainly break my traditional one play through only thing to romance both (err, all three, because Sera!).

[Maria Caliban]

Edit: And on the topic of Vivienne, I was just thinking: they said Vivienne doesn't like and Inquisition MAGE, and Cole is no mage. So, who does Vivienne not get along with?
 
Dorian, Solas? Morrigan? (Is she even gonna join?)

My gut says she and Solas butt heads.

[The Elder King]

Well, I think both Dorian and Solas are possible, though we do know that Vivienne might mock Solas.
I think she won't get along with Morrigan too.

[Master Shiori]

Considering Morrigan is now a sort of advisor to the Empress, much like Vivienne, I can easily see the 2 of them having a rivalry going on for Celene's favor and status at court. Not to mention that Vivienne is pro Circle and Morrigan is pretty much anti Circle and anti Chantry.

[godModeAlpha]

My gut says she and Solas butt heads.

Some how think Dorian? Since Solas IMHO is sort of in the middle when it comes to the circle, I say middle because as an apostate, and a fade specialist he does not seem to be concerned about the Templar v Mage war.

Dorian is from Tevinter, correct if I'm wrong, where the mages rule and the chantry is pretty much no existent.

Vivienne being pro circle might have issues with the likes of Dorian.

[godModeAlpha]

Considering Morrigan is now a sort of advisor to the Empress, much like Vivienne, I can easily see the 2 of them having a rivalry going on for Celene's favor and status at court. Not to mention that Vivienne is pro Circle and Morrigan is pretty much anti Circle and anti Chantry.

Indeed, this would be interesting. Bet Morrigan has cast spells on the Empress too.

[The Elder King]

Indeed, this would be interesting. Bet Morrigan has cast spells on the Empress too.

Doubtful. Blood magic allows users to control people, and I don't think she uses it.

[Mistic]

Some how think Dorian? Since Solas IMHO is sort of in the middle when it comes to the circle, I say middle because as an apostate, and a fade specialist he does not seem to be concerned about the Templar v Mage war.

Dorian is from Tevinter, correct if I'm wrong, where the mages rule and the chantry is pretty much no existent.

Vivienne being pro circle might have issues with the likes of Dorian.

 

I suppose we'll have to see it when the time comes, but Dorian and Vivienne might have a lot more things in common. Yes, Tevinter is a magocracy, but it still has a Chantry, Circles and Templars, not to talk about an Imperial court and bickering nobles, a familiar setting for someone like Vivienne.

[Neesa]

Considering Morrigan is now a sort of advisor to the Empress, much like Vivienne, I can easily see the 2 of them having a rivalry going on for Celene's favor and status at court. Not to mention that Vivienne is pro Circle and Morrigan is pretty much anti Circle and anti Chantry.

 

To be honest, I kind of like the idea of Vivienne and Morrigan as frenemies. Obviously competing for Celene's favor in court would seem to make them natural rivals however I do have to wonder at how Morrigan deals with the nobles. She never struck me as the type to know how to navigate the political scene. I could see Celene asking Vivienne to advise Morrigan on the finer details of The Game if only to keep the latter from harming the Empress' reputation beyond repair; with the two mages developing a begrudging respect for one another. Their interactions could range from mildly amicable to downright catty. 

[Master Shiori]

My impression is that Morrigan is a bit of a mystery to the nobles in Celene's court. They know she's her advisor, but have no idea who she truly is or where she came from. I also doubt Celene would allow her to freely interact with the nobles. Morrigan's social skills are a bit lacking and I doubt she'd be able to navigate the Game as it's played in Orlais. To Morrigan that may be unimportant but, as Celene's advisor, anything she does or says will reflect on Celene's status in the Game, ad her enemies could easily try to discredit her through Morrigan.