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So? They were talking about his appearance, you went a lot further than that.

 

I'm not trying to fight with you.

If it helps, it's not a word I'd have used were I talking about anyone IRL. I did so here because her archetype appears to deliberately embrace a specific type of unpleasantness that's always associated with women (unless it's with flamboyantly gay men) when it appears in media, and it's one I tremendously dislike. I mean, I dearly hope more is done with Vivienne than this, I just can't understand why they chose to release the info that they have in this manner.



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If it helps, it's not a word I'd have used were I talking about anyone IRL. I did so here because her archetype appears to deliberately embrace a specific type of unpleasantness that's always associated with women (unless it's with flamboyantly gay men) when it appears in media, and it's one I tremendously dislike. I mean, I dearly hope more is done with Vivienne than this, I just can't understand why they chose to release the info that they have in this manner.

 

Xil I really don't mind lol. I just think she could grow on you.



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Xil I really don't mind lol. I just think she could grow on you.

 

That's not always a good thing though.  Foot fungus can grow on you too.   :P

 

Note: I'm not equating Vivi to foot fungus.  Just saying that the expression can be taken a couple of different ways.



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That's not always a good thing though.  Foot fungus can grow on you too.   :P

 

You would bring it there. :sick:



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Xil I really don't mind lol. I just think she could grow on you.

The weird thing is that I have a certain impression that she will and that I'll wind up romancing her, which is an odd sensation indeed; I hate her now while simultaneously feeling as if I'll love her later.


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Nat, don't know if you saw it, but Gaider answered me about Solas.



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The weird thing is that I have a certain impression that she will and that I'll wind up romancing her, which is an odd sensation indeed; I hate her now while simultaneously feeling as if I'll love her later.

None can resist the Viv.


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#1083
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You would bring it there. :sick:

I was being polite.   ;)

 

@Xil: That would make for some conflicting emotions.  I do understand some of your distrust of the character; her "food likeness" is right up there with foie gras as some of the most horrifying food preparation I've heard ever of.

 

@Elu: I did.  I'm not too surprised by that cagey answer. :P



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That's not always a good thing though.  Foot fungus can grow on you too.   :P

 

Note: I'm not equating Vivi to foot fungus.  Just saying that the expression can be taken a couple of different ways.

 

Vivienne at least looks like she'd smell nicer than foot fungus.



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The weird thing is that I have a certain impression that she will and that I'll wind up romancing her, which is an odd sensation indeed; I hate her now while simultaneously feeling as if I'll love her later.

 

This is starting to sound like a Lifetime movie :P

Will you dislike her if she's super pro-circle?



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Vivienne at least looks like she'd smell nicer than foot fungus.

 

I bet she smells like lavender


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#1087
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Vivienne at least looks like she'd smell nicer than foot fungus.

Assuming she washes her hair, which, according to Leliana, not all Orlesian nobles do.

 

 

This is starting to sound like a Lifetime movie :P

Will you dislike her if she's super pro-circle?

If she wants to bring back the current Circle system... yes, wholeheartedly.



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Assuming she washes her hair, which, according to Leliana, not all Orlesian nobles do.

 

 

If she wants to bring back the current Circle system... yes, wholeheartedly.

 

*assuming she has hair

 

What about a reformed circled that better meets mages needs?



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If she wants to bring back the current Circle system... yes, wholeheartedly.

Pro-Circle has a whole bunch of varying degrees. Being Pro-Circle doesn't mean she necessarily wants the old Circle back with the same crappy power imbalance.


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#1090
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*assuming she has hair

 

What about a reformed circled that better meets mages needs?

Remove the Chantry from the equation and we can potentially work something out.

 

 

Pro-Circle has a whole bunch of varying degrees. Being Pro-Circle doesn't mean she necessarily wants the old Circle back with the same crappy power imbalance.

Not necessarily, which is why I'm not certain I'll hate her yet.


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#1091
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Remove the Chantry from the equation and we can potentially work something out.

 

Same for me B)

 

Even if she's pro-Circle (with chantry/how it already is) and my elven mage wants to beat her with her staff, I still love VIvienne



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Same for me B)

 

Even if she's pro-Circle (with chantry/how it already is) and my elven mage wants to beat her with her staff, I still love VIvienne

That's something about a lot of Bioware's characters that I absolutely adore. Even though I might not agree with their views, I still love the characters anyways.



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Personally, I don't have to like all my companions.  I do want them to invoke a strong emotional response though, for good or for ill.  For example, that was the reason why Sebastian left me with an overall impression of "meh."  He didn't give me a good emotion tie that would merit a strong reaction.

 

As long as Vivienne is written as a well rounded character, even if I dislike her, I look forward to my PC meeting her.



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I end up liking the characters I most hate. Fascinating.


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It's like my love/hate relationship with Aveline



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It's like my love/hate relationship with Aveline

 

Holy ****, thought that was just me rofl.

 

I hate how it's her way or the highway, but her loyalty is just too damned admirable.



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I end up liking the characters I most hate. Fascinating.

Means they're doing something right.

;)



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more like totally to suck the inquisitor's....

arm.


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Holy ****, thought that was just me rofl.

 

I hate how it's her way or the highway, but her loyalty is just too damned admirable.

 

I know!! She'll say something that will annoy me so much but then I do something stupid and she's like "I'm with you"

 

 

how can I not like her a little bit for that???



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Great, now I can't get that damn Khia song out of my head. I hope you're happy shonawarrior!


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