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[x-aizen-x]

Every1 is saying that the reason that they don't don't want bioware to put Hawke and warden in DAI(which I think they should) is because they would not import right. Some people expect bioware to follow their head canon and they say "If bioware cant import the warden according got my head cannon then I don't want him in there) I think that very unfair and immature for a person to think that way. This is why I think the keep should help. In the description the it say the keep will allow us to input our hero's attributes. Now I have heard some very ridicules story's. Some have said that they don't thin morrigan has any relevance in DAI and some people have even said that the inquisitor has no relevance in DAI, but there were likely saying that out of anger. any way If the keep will allow us to import not only our previous companion stats but our past hero's attributes then I think that will. Now im sure there are some who will just simply try their best to twist the truth but to them I ask why does the description say we can import out previous companions attribute and our hero's. Some have even said that the keep will only allow use to import the big things. But it said we can import quest endings sooo...

 

 

 

 

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[TheLittleBird]

There just is a big problem with having both the Warden and Hawke in the game, because they have been embodiments of the player in the world of Thedas in past games and the players really shaped their personalities and how they think and act.

[LobselVith8]

I don't think it's unfair or immature for some fans to be opposed to it. The Warden was a silent protagonist, in a narrative that invited the player to shape the character as he or she saw fit, and there is still a schism regarding the view on voiced protagonists. All I see are problems with an appearance from The Warden, especially if the former protagonist is voiced. That's my opinion, of course. You are certainly entitled to yours.

[x-aizen-x]

the thing is that there are some players who do not care weather or not bioware can properly import their warden. the will still say its bad. and use that as a reason to say the whole game is bad.

[x-aizen-x]

I don't think it's unfair or immature for some fans to be opposed to it. The Warden was a silent protagonist, in a narrative that invited the player to shape the character as he or she saw fit, and there is still a schism regarding the view on voiced protagonists. All I see are problems with an appearance from The Warden, especially if the former protagonist is voiced. That's my opinion, of course. You are certainly entitled to yours.

 I get what you mean. But I never said "it's unfair or immature for some fans to be opposed to it" I said it is very very very very childish immature and unfair and irrational and ridiculous for players to say that if "bioware cant import my warden according to my heacanon then I will  say the whole game is bad" As there are some players who really don't care and will complain no matter what bioware does.

[TheLittleBird]

the thing is that there are some players who do not care weather or not bioware can properly import their warden. the will still say its bad. and use that as a reason to say the whole game is bad.

 

Yeah sure but is there really a reason to import those two people? I'm fine about having them be Heroes in their own game, and then living the quiet life or disappearing into the Deep Roads or whatever the player has in mind for them. I mean, it's not like Thedas absolutely really needs them to be in the Inquisition.

[TheKomandorShepard]

No thanks i shaped them (at least the warden) and i see very little reason to destroy my character just to see random npc on his place not even being smiliar to them... it can't be done correctly at least not with modern resources... 

 

I think that making 1000 thread about the warden and hawke is more immature...

[x-aizen-x]

I understand the truth hurts but read the keep

[Mes]

If I'm completely honest, I don't really want/need to see Warden and Hawke because I haven't played the other two games in AGES, and I literally have no connection to those two characters anymore.

 

I wonder if this is one of the reasons why Bioware would not want to include those two characters themselves. Not like any of these individual characters are Shepard, after all!

[TheKomandorShepard]

I understand the truth hurts but read the keep

They said already that keep will invole only very basics like gender or class not much more so either they will put extremely generic warden so no thanks or they need just that for references like in da 2 which is more likely...

[x-aizen-x]

If I'm completely honest, I don't really want/need to see Warden and Hawke because I haven't played the other two games in AGES, and I literally have no connection to those two characters anymore.

 

I wonder if this is one of the reasons why Bioware would not want to include those two characters themselves. Not like any of these individual characters are Shepard, after all!

So then there Is nothing wrong with them being regular NPCs

[TheKomandorShepard]

So then there Is nothing wrong with them being regular NPCs

Not rly hawke perhaps the warden no as s/he was blank character i have many wardens so i don't want get random sociopath or hero with cheap sentences...

[TheLittleBird]

I understand the truth hurts but read the keep

 

What? You're basically saying we'll see our previous heroes in the games because of the Keep? That's a strange assumption. If BioWare wants to import these characters, fine. Let them do it. They know really well a LOT of people will not like that, so they won't do it unless it's for very good reasons. Not just for a "oh wow there is the guy whose back I was staring at the whole time in Origins and I gave him a name!"-moment.

[x-aizen-x]

They said already that keep will invole only very basics like gender or class not much more so either they will put extremely generic warden so no thanks or they need just that for references like in da 2 which is more likely...

No they did not. This is the problem people are 4 some reason saying the keep will only involve very minor stuff this is not true read the keep description.

[Iakus]

The Warden and Hawke's stories are done.  I don't want them impinging on the Inquisitor's story, or anyone who might come after.

 

The fear that our characters won't be done justice is a very real, and very reasonable concern.  The last thing I want is for my former characters to be Sheparded when they should be enjoying a nice retirement.

[x-aizen-x]

"Within the Dragon Age Keep, you’ll be able to customize a Dragon Age historical world state to your exact specifications drawn from Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age II story decisions. These include hero attributes, companion details, quest results, and more. Customize as much or as little as you wish. Then you'll be able to import your saved world state into Dragon Age Inquisition at the start of a new game. For new players, the Keep will serve as a great way to understand the people, places, and events that shaped the world leading up to DAI"

 

How does this sound like only minor choices...?

[Rainbow Wyvern]

Personally, I just don't want them to appear (as in, SEE them) in the game because they'll probably use Hawke's default appearance instead of a custom one, and my Warden possibly acting... not.. warden...y. Yeah. We'll go with that.

I don't want my male Hawke to have grown a beard and changed his eye color, or my female Hawke to have cut almost all her hair off. And changed her skin color. Or my Warden acting like a Nice Hero Lady when instead she was kind of.. not a Nice Hero Lady. Not that I'll be mad at BioWare if it happens. They aren't my characters anymore.  sadly. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

No they did not. This is the problem people are 4 some reason saying the keep will only involve very minor stuff this is not true read the keep description.

 

Yep they did and im talking about pc not world state...

[PrinceofTime]

David Gaider on Hawke and the Warden reappearance.-'Just as an addendum to this: Yes, those who are concerned will need to 

come to terms with the idea that Hawke and/or the Warden may appear in 

DAI. If so, they will not be under your control.

 

As I have said previously, we'll respect the decisions that were made-- but those are 

actual decisions that were in the game, not things one imagines them 

doing after the game was over. As with other choices, those decisions 

may not have results that you imagined.

 

But neither are we going to contradict them. Meaning that, if your former PC was in a romance, we

are not suddenly going to give them a new romance or say that romance 

never existed.

 

We are not, however. going to outline exactly how 

these characters will appear-- if they do-- or what they will or won't 

be doing. That's part of the plot.If someone is determined that they 

definitely don't want to see them at all, or simply doesn't trust us to 

not have things happen which are wildly contradictory to 

previously-established events, then now would definitely be the time to 

panic.'

 

Also heres a tweet.

@davidgaider Can you confirm weather or not a hawke or warden appearance is still up for debate. Or has it been scraped?

 

@Glo_rez It's not up for debate, that much is true

 

You decide.

[Saints]

I understand the truth hurts..

Yes, here is the truth. Chances are that the Warden and Hawke will NOT be in the game. You should get used to it now or be disappointed later.

[Spectre slayer]

Sigh do we reallly need another thread about this when absolutely nothing has changed, both the warden and hawke may appear in DAI or they may not show up at all it all depends on what bioware wants to do with them and if they feel having them in the game will strength it then that's what they're going to do and are prepared for whatever outcome or backlash from this.

If they don't think it was worth the trouble then they won't show up at all but no matter what we will find out what happened to them and the fact is they may still use them in the plot according to Gaider who has been pretty vocal about this matter over the last year or 2 , either way it's to late since they already made up their mind and we'll just have to wait and see what they choose to do.

Some people want them in DAI for various reasons, some do not for various reasons and some just don't care anymore and will react to what they do with them and as long as they can make close to their wardens and hawkes somehow won't have a problem aslong as they don't butcher them.

For good or ill the die has been cast, and we'll just have to wait and see what they've decided to do.

And no Op the keep has nothing to do with how they look or anything like that, it's only for your decisions and outcome, companions, LI's and if you did the ritual or not.

[Mes]

So then there Is nothing wrong with them being regular NPCs

 

Nope nothing wrong with it.  But it wouldn't be something I'd personally be fussed about.

[Rotward]

No. Stop begging for your old PC's to come back. There's no realistic way for it to work; even if the story made sense, the art changes would leave your warden unrecognizable. 

[Mr.House]

First they would not be able to recreate the Warden and Hawkes look. Second the Warden was silent, they would need voices, for each race and gender to match sincet he races we played where either from their homeland(Orzamar) or the Dalish. The third issue is with Hawkes personality. Your Hawke could very well react diffrently then their default personality.

 

The biggest issue is some Wardens can be dead and should not show up. The last ti me we had the Warden showing up, it competelty destoryed the sacerfice choice(in DA:A)

 

So no, the Warden and Hawke should not return, at best they should be mentioned. Calling people immature or childish for not wanting to seet heir characters destroyed is just silly.