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[PlasmaCheese]

I am so excited for DAI!!! I know it'll be amazing!!!! ^^

[JeffZero]

If Inquisition ends up becoming Dragon Age's "Mass Effect 3", what will you do? Will you still have faith in Bioware?

I'm not asserting it'll be good or it won't be good, just curious.

As for myself, if DA:I flops as badly as ME3 did, I think by then I'd lose hope in Bioware's future installments.

It's funny I made the remarks that I did earlier, because I never actually noticed the OP slandered ME3 like this until just now.

The reason I label it as such is because I'm pretty sure *DA2* is still a much more reviled title overall. Most people I've spoken with outside of BSN have generally applauded ME3 beyond its ending debacle.

It's a cycle with gamers, I swear to the Maker. Whatever the previous game is a company produces will invariably get these sorts of references until the Next Big Catastrophe.

Old hat now, but if DAI is as good as ME3 my goodness I'll be in heaven.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

While in most cases you are correct about gamers, sometimes this is not always the case, take for instance Bioshock, the first Bioshock was awesome and to this day is still loved by everyone it has become a classic, now look at Bioshock 2 while it wasn't bad, it wasn't great either it was met with a resounding meh, then Bioshock Infinite came out and it was loved while Bioshock 2 still remains the runt of the litter. Hopefully the same will happen DA:I

[JeffZero]

Yeah, you're right of course, sometimes a thud is a thud. Or a mediocre offering is regarded as such for good and all. It does happen.

[auberonh]

If DAI is another ME3, I'll be really happy. That game was incredible. However, I think with the emphasis  on exploration, DAI is shaping up to be even better!

[milena87]

I believe the DA team to be capable of delivering a good story (and a good game overall), so I really don't think it will be a new ME2 or ME3.

 

However, in the horrible event that it will in fact turn into ME2 or ME3 I would stop buying games from the DA team as well.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

I believe the DA team to be capable of delivering a good story (and a good game overall), so I really don't think it will be a new ME2 or ME3.
 
However, in the horrible event that it will in fact turn into ME2 or ME3 I would stop buying games from the DA team as well.

What was wrong with ME2?

[AlanC9]

What was wrong with ME2?

 

No loot? Just guessing.

[Raizo]

If it isn't good?

Do you really want to go there. After all the controversy and disappointment with DA2 and ME3 Bioware really needs their next game to live up to the hype. If it doesn't, well it's not going to be the end of the world but it don't think Bioware can afford to alienate or disappoint their fan base any more.

[bEVEsthda]

If Inquisition ends up becoming Dragon Age's "Mass Effect 3", what will you do? Will you still have faith in Bioware?

 

 

I'll rephrase this a bit.

 

If DA:I ends up not solving the problems I've had with Bioware's later games, but instead persists in their newfangled ways, then it's the end for me. That doesn't mean it's the end of Bioware. They may have some success, as they apparently did with Mass Effect 2. And I wish them good luck with that. But for me it's goodbye.

 

If DA:I flops otoh, I don't think that whatever I feel for the game makes any difference for the future.

[laudable11]

Well then, once DA:I comes out, I might have to avoid the forums.  I'd like to enjoy and indulge in DA:I before folks come into trash the game.   In the meantime... 

Wait, what? Be grateful? Should I be grateful that Ford motor company makes a car or should they be grateful that I decide to buy it?

They should be grateful. Not the customer.

Anyway..ME3 was not BioWare's finest hour but if DA:I is as good as that game I will be satisfied.

[Nightdragon8]

No loot? Just guessing.

honestly I didn't like ME2 for that reason at the start but I went back to play ME1 after ME2, and thought.... god I gotta deal with all this #$@!... thats when I switched to likeing ME2 better in that regard. Tho I think the whole Killing Shepard just to bring him back under Cerburus control thing abit to "sci-fiy" it was decent.

 

tho I did miss the mods on the guns (which where brought back for ME3, Thanks devs) tho one of my fav combos was shield peircing and extra damage per shot with a sniper rifle, was able to kill bad guys with shields still left on there bars.

[Samahl na Revas]

If DA:I : ME3 I will delete my account. Break my BF4 disc and never purchase from EA or its subdivisions.

 

 

Then get on my Google youtube account and let everyone know how bad the game is, that would take some time because I have to think of some stupid to do that would get a whole lot of views. Irony, it is hard to think of a stupid idea but easy to do stupid things. Of course I was have to do this without showing any DA:I footage, I have something in mind.

[kukumburr]

I hope DA:I is as good as ME3. It was easily my favorite of the trilogy. I didn't play it until after the extended ending and all the DLC was out though so maybe that helped. I also love DA2 and SWTOR despite people telling me they were terrible.

 

But I am a bit worried because this is the first BioWare game I will be playing at launch besides SWTOR. I didn't play the ME trilogy or DA:O and DA2 until after they had been out for awhile and I went into them without a lot of expectations. I'm curious if I'll be more judgemental of DA:I when it comes out just because this time I've been riding the hype train and have been building up expectations for months.

 

However, even if I am disappointed I doubt I will lose faith in BioWare. I have yet to regret buying any of their games.

[Mockingword]

ME3 was the best game of the trilogy and it's still not even as good as DA2.

 

So I'm not worried in the least. DA:I will do fine.

[JeffZero]

All this ME3 love makes me blush.

Good luck with your first launch experience, kukumburr. I think having instant access to all DLC really helps. It certainly factored into my initial forays into ME2 years ago and DA2 just recently. Going into ME3 with it probably helped your impressions greatly; in March 2012 I felt ME2 was superior, in June 2012 with EC I just barely gave the edge to 2; in January 2013 (I think it was?) by the time Citadel was out 3 eked ahead.

While I really detest the D1DLC trend the stuff that has come later has generally been aces to me. Legacy and MotA really helped make Act 3 of DA2 not seem as short as I'm now thinking back and realizing it was.

Is this how I think games should be? Only of a desirable fullness several months out? Surely not, but it sure woulda helped ME1, too, were there more industry impetus to pump out story DLCs back then. Two more Bring Down the Skies, yes please.

[Scott Sion]

ME3 was a great game that did pretty much everything right IMO, ending aside. I was all sorts of upset about the ending back when I first saw it, but Bioware has made amends since then. Between EC and Citadel DLC I feel like the game has a proper ending. They both fill the gap and questions as well as add some much needed closure.

 

I've also heard a lot of good things about what they've released on DA:I so far, so I'm pretty optimistic at the moment. In an attempt to sum up my post. Bioware lost my faith with the ME3 ending then gained it back with EC/Citadel, if DA:I flops I'll be confused as ****.

[spirosz]

I disagree about ME3 being a great game, since the endings were never my problem, but the game as a whole.  From the "vanilla" experience, the treatment of the Mass Effect Two characters were a joke, the fetch quest system, even the journal system and to go as far as arguing about the re-used tracks from the first two games.  There was a lot there that just didn't click with me, but I'm not going to ignore the positives that it brought to the series, since there certain aspects that they did much better than the previous two titles, but otherwise, as a whole - the game without the DLC is about a 6.5/10 for me, but we all have different tastes.   

[wolfhowwl]

If the game isn't good?

 

If the story falls flat it would be the fourth game in a row with questionable writing. If other aspects can't make up for it then it would be the third blunder after Dragon Age II and Mass Effect 3.

 

Unlike DA2, this time there won't be a very short development cycle to blame. Worse comes to worse, if this is the best they could do with the amount of time they had, then yes, it would be time to move on. I know I would have been more forgiving than a lot of other people and would only have myself to blame for being foolish enough to give Bioware another chance.

 

Hopefully at this point people will have tempered their expectations and be able to handle any disappointment in a mature and dignified fashion.

Spoiler

Hahaha

[oceanicsurvivor]

Part of the reason ME3's ending was such a big deal was because it was THE definitive end to the trilogy. It did bother me, and I had to set the game down for a year or so, and when I finally did replay it with all the DLC I thought it was much stronger and I walked away infinitely more satisfied with the game, even though I still don't love the ending. So, even at its 'worst' the Mass Effect trilogy is amazing.

 

Dragon Age isn't building towards one resolution in the same way. Each game has a different protag, and the world is bouncing between threat after threat, so even if one thing resolves weakly, there are ten more points of conflict down the line that will be of interest. So, just structurally, I don't think Dragon Age will ever back itself into the same corner Mass Effect 3 seemed to. Yes, I might not like how the Qunari are handled/what happens with them, but hey, there is still the Orlesian Civil War, and the mage/templar conflict, whatever Flemeth is up to, whatever the Grey Wardens are up to, whatever the Tevinter Imperium is up to! etc etc.

 

And I'm in the camp that thinks Dragon age 2 had enough redeeming qualities to make it a worthwhile experience, so if Dragon Age 2 is the benchmark for their 'universa worst game'l, I think I'll be ok. The very little we've seen in demo etc, has shown off a very impressive and ambitious game imo, and I'm pretty excited to just wander Thedas, which isn't something I would have said about any other Dragon Age game, since they were, ultimately fairly linear (level wise, not story).

 

As always though, I get nervous before a new Bioware game, thinking that this group of companions will be the group where none really click for me...I've played 6 Bioware games so far and it hasn't happened once, but I still get nervous about it lol. And really, I think that would be the only thing that would/could ever make me truly disappointed. As long as there are strong characters, I'm confident I'll enjoy it; it's a day one purchase for me definitely.

[Zazzerka]

ME3 was the best game of the trilogy and it's still not even as good as DA2.

 

This is possibly the strangest, most unfamiliar sentence I've ever read on the BSN.

[milena87]

What was wrong with ME2?

 

I personally didn't like ME2, and I only dislike it more after ME3. The gameplay was the thing that bothered me at first, and not because of the almost no inventory, but because the game forced you to take cover in combat, while in ME1, even on Insanity, you maybe need to take cover once (bar fight vs Fist's men at the very beginning). I hate cover so much and it's in so many different games now :/

Then there's the matter of ME2's story: I tried to stay positive and think that ME3 would make sense of it, that ME2 actually did went somewhere and was not just a companions showcase / filler game. Of course ME3 ignored both ME1 and ME2 in the end, so yeah.

 

Anyway, I guess the reason I dislike both ME2&3 is because ME1 promised a much better trilogy, not two other games that would try really hard to ignore what you previously did.

 

For all its problems and shortcomings, I vastly prefer DA2 to both ME2 and ME3. At least DA2 tried to do something and advanced the overall plot of the series. 

Also, I prefer the combat in the DA series, so even the endless waves of enemies in DA2 were better for me than what we got in ME2. ME3 was tolerable because every fight lasted like 4 seconds with the overpowered biotic combos.

[Vilegrim]

This is an interesting perspective and one I'm not sure I entirely understand.  Why would the opinion deviate so much in the absence of new information?  Though I have a feeling that doing something like we did at PAX would reset the scale back to where it was.

 

I could understand perhaps a decline in interest (i.e apathy), but not a cynicism (i.e. antipathy).  Can you elaborate?

 

 

In my case: what other parts of the EA stable have been shovelling out, EAs continued focus on publishing utter crap within an established IP, and the proliferation of games that want me to play on my mobile, the i-pad I don't have and my PC...and maybe on a browser as well.  

 

Also the more I look at the combat footage the more I dislike the philosphy behind it, it just looks roflcopterEXPLOSIONawesome. The two examples of this that I can not even comprehend how this was thought of, is Two handed swords being weilded like sledgehammers, and the ?Mortal Kombat harpoon...seriously what the actual, unholy hell was the thought process behind that piece of crap?

[Vapaa]

the treatment of the Mass Effect Two characters were a joke

 

You know, I blame ME2 for that, 10 new characters, that can be dead/alive or loyal/not loyal, that's crazy. In general, ME2 introduced too much branching without resolving any the branching left by ME1, and that's not even mentioning the whole Cerberus retcon, or the fact that nothing in ME2 serves against the Reapers in ME3 (ME2 was the perfect game for introducing the Crucible, dammit)

 

And that is a show of complete incompetence from Bioware's part; each individual game is amazing, but the trilogy as a whole is a scattered mess.

[Vilegrim]

You know, I blame ME2 for that, 10 new characters, that can be dead/alive or loyal/not loyal, that's crazy. In general, ME2 introduced too much branching without resolving any the branching left by ME1, and that's not even mentioning the whole Cerberus retcon, or the fact that nothing in ME2 serves against the Reapers in ME3 (ME2 was the perfect game for introducing the Crucible, dammit)

 

And that is a show of complete incompetence from Bioware's part; each individual game is amazing, but the trilogy as a whole is a scattered mess.

 

 

Incompetence is far to harsh, (except, maybe the ME3 ending, even the directors cut doesn't stop that being both morally horrific and exactly the type of ending we where promised would not happen, as well as feeling completly disconnected from everything else), just not really thinking things through, and that can and does happen to anyone.