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[Realmzmaster]

The opposite point is what if the game is the greatest thing since sliced bread?  How many of you are going to sing Bioware/EA praises? Or are you going to say that what I expected in the first place.

 

No matter how good a game or any form of entertainment is there will always be someone who does not like it or think it is average. The opposite is also true it could be the worst game ever and someone will still find redeeming features.

 

I have no problem when people compare games. The question I always ask myself is even though it is not like (insert game here) did I enjoy the game on its own merits? 

 

Some people can judge that way others cannot. I am working on judging each game on its own merits and how much I enjoyed it. I am not saying I am there yet. I am working on it. So I can be more impartial when I give my opinion to someone especially to some one who has not played the other games I may consciously or unconsciously compare it to. 

 

I know that comparison will happen that is inevitable.I understand when others do it. Because many times I do it myself rightly or wrongly.

[Grieving Natashina]

Not all of us have played the ME games nor choose to, so it's really hard to compare.  I'm not going to judge based on the varied fan reactions here.  Also, since ME was done by an entirely different team than Dragon Age, I'm not sure why folks insist on comparing the two.  They are in the same company and yet everything else is different.

 

 

May you guys please take the Mass Effect talk to the appropriate forums and just stick to Dragon Age for here?  

[JeffZero]

I went through this for years with all the DA-speak on the ME boards.

[Rawgrim]

Mass Effect got ruined by a terrible ending. Simple as that. A story is only as good as the sum of its part, and when the climax of the story simply doesn`t make any sense on any level, the whole point of it collapses. Players completely losing control of their character in a growning amount of cutscenes, didn`t help either.

 

Pretty much everything revealed about DA:I so far, looks pretty damn good, though. The graphics are stunning, and the prospect of a more open (and bigger) world will add tons to the game as well.

[JeffZero]

I liked it, sorry.

But we probably should not talk so much about ME here, I agree.

[fhs33721]

The opposite point is what if the game is the greatest thing since sliced bread?  How many of you are going to sing Bioware/EA praises? Or are you going to say that what I expected in the first place.

 

Oh please. Even if DAI turns out to be the absolute apex of RPG-gaming and becomes the best game ever made in the history of gaming, the players will probably complain about soemthing extremely minor like:

"That one stone in dungeon number 245 has totally low resulution texture on it. Bioware fucked it up. The entire franchise is ruined. I'll never preorder from them ever again. Since they are run by EA they just don't care about fans any more. blablablablabbla......"

Oh and they'll vote EA the worst company again, which is stupid (Just to clarify:they do deserve a trophy for being the worst game company. But worst company in general? Hell no.)

 

This of course is an exaggeration, but it does seem that gamers like to complain a lot if you look at this forum.

[Naesaki]

 

This of course is an exaggeration, but it does seem that gamers like to complain a lot if you look at this forum.

Sadly its not even an exaggeration sometimes xD some people do nitpick to an absolute extreme, and baffles me that they had to go to such lengths to find a fault with a game so they could "justifiably hate it"

[LinksOcarina]

Sadly its not even an exaggeration sometimes xD some people do nitpick to an absolute extreme, and baffles me that they had to go to such lengths to find a fault with a game so they could "justifiably hate it"

 

Because people are nerds.

 

It's self destructive, almost compulsive behavior that kind of pushes us to be right all the time, so if something is hated or liked, we need to be on the forefront of those extremes. We become the cynics and sycophants that tend to plague the internet in any sort of debate, discussion or discourse that occurs.

 

And whats worse, the only reason we do it is because we think we all know better than everyone else. What makes any of us experts basically is nothing, because we usually don't go beyond the standard objections of what is right or wrong, or why these things happen. 

[Naesaki]

Human Nature at its finest really

[Loremaster Nick]

If DA:I is bad, which so far I don't think it will be, my faith in the DA teams ability to deliver will be damaged. I've enjoyed both previous games and ME3 was good in my opinion, so my overall belief in that BW can deliver as a whole will not be shaken, at least not before we see what the next Mass Effect brings.

[TheExtreamH]

for me to stop buying Dragon Age and class inquisition as a bad game. Bioware would have to seriously mess up. Dragon Age 2 was a very good game in my books, only the over used Cave was my main complaint. I have faith in DA team, i know they will deliver a killer game.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

for me to stop buying Dragon Age and class inquisition as a bad game. Bioware would have to seriously mess up. Dragon Age 2 was a very good game in my books, only the over used Cave was my main complaint. I have faith in DA team, i know they will deliver a killer game.

I agree with this, i enjoyed DA2 as much as Origins just as i enjoyed both ME2 & ME3 which were both accused of ruining the series. BW will get hate no matter how good inquisition is, will be no escaping it.

[Aulis Vaara]

I agree with this, i enjoyed DA2 as much as Origins just as i enjoyed both ME2 & ME3 which were both accused of ruining the series. BW will get hate no matter how good inquisition is, will be no escaping it.

 

 

I've never seen ME2 accused of ruining the series, only of not being an RPG, which is a valid criticism on the game. Like TotalBiscuit said, even those who love Gone Home agree that it's a walking simulator. But when it comes to Bioware games, you suddenly can't voice your criticisms because someone else perceives the game to be good? What a load of nonsense. If that rock in that dungeon has bad texture work, it has bad texture work, how good the rest of the game is is rather irrelevant in that matter.

As for ME3, I've heard multiple accounts of people who were planning about playing through the entire ME trilogy after they beat ME3. After that ending though, they just didn't see the point. So yes, ME3 did ruin the entire series retroactively for some/many people. Not that that was the only thing wrong with the same, not by a long shot.

[AlanC9]

Every Bio game ever has had plenty of stuff wrong with it.

[Zeldrik1389]

Every Bio game ever has had plenty of stuff wrong with it.

Every games EVER MADE has had plenty of stuffs wrong with it. Doesn't stop people from loving them though (well not all of them).

[Well]

To me there were two excellant parts in ME3 and the rest was mediocre at best. It wasn't just the ending. As far as DA2 most of it was the same. DAO is the standard to me. SWTOR is a really good and the IA story is awesome. I won't preorder DA:I. Even though I am pretty encourage by some of the info I have seen posted. If the game turns out like ME3 and DA2 it will be the last for me. I have been playing since BG first came out. We will see. It is all about choice. 

[Divine Justinia V]

This thread is giving me a headache.

[Eterna]

Mass Effect 3 wasn't good? 

[Monoten]

Mass Effect 3 wasn't good? 

I thought mass effect 3 was good, not as good overall as 2 but it wasn't that bad. The ending was a bit of a downer, but with the new ending it was fine for me. Although I do recommend the last DLC, it's one of the best.

 

I think DAI will be a better game, it's just as with a trilogy. Most of the times the first one is good, the second slightly bad and the next one is better than the second. I mean Bioware has received the input of DA2 and did something with it, namely different environments for the DLC. And what I've seen so far, is that no two places are the exact same in DAI. Besides no two games are the same, some will love it, some will hate it. 

[hangmans tree]

To me there were two excellant parts in ME3 and the rest was mediocre at best. It wasn't just the ending. As far as DA2 most of it was the same. DAO is the standard to me. SWTOR is a really good and the IA story is awesome. I won't preorder DA:I. Even though I am pretty encourage by some of the info I have seen posted. If the game turns out like ME3 and DA2 it will be the last for me. I have been playing since BG first came out. We will see. It is all about choice. 

 

I'm more or less the same.

What I would like to add ks that people are missing the whole ME3 criticism stating that it was a great game with a crappy ending. No. Ending was an epitomy of the tendency running its course throughout the game. There were about 2-3 highlight spikes. Tuchanka to name one. It was so good that it shamed the rest of the game. ME3 was inconsistent, redundant in many ways, lack of cohesive determined storyline. It suffered from many aspects minor and grand alike. It was a good game though. The whole problem was  it did not uphold the high standard of storytelling set by previous titles.

DA2 was even worse.

 

That is why I will wait for the opinions from the sources I trust before shelling out for DAI

 

 

This thread is giving me a headache.

Why read it then? masochist much?

[sangy]

Anyone who's seen the screenshots or videos released so far on this game know this installment of DA is going to be epic.  If anyone thinks the DA team hasn't put a ton of thought into the endings, they'd be poorly mistaken. 

[Bruno Hslaw]

Gotta love fan boys. Assuming everything will be great after seeing a bit of video and a few stills. Seriously delusional. The only time we will know jack, is when the game is released and not before. Is it bad? is it good? NOT a single person here knows. I personally will wait till after launch, to see what all the paying Beta testers make of it. Then & only then will I POSSIBLY buy the game. Yes I will forgo whatever rubbish day 1 dlc they offer. I trusted them on ME3 and got a half assed game IMO, never buying day 1 off these guys ever again.

[Darth Krytie]

I'm in the minority in that I really loved Mass Effect 3 and the ending, though...frustrating...wasn't enough to kill just how much I loved Mass Effect 3. As soon as we got the extended ending, my complaints ended. So, I think the question really presumes that we were all mutually disappointed by BioWare to the same degree. I played DA2 like 20 times. ME3 about 12 or 13 (I just checker raptr and I apparently have played ME3 734 hrs. I played multiplayer maybe three hours altogether).

 

Anyhow, I've never been disappointed enough by BioWare to even question that I'll buy the next game. I've enjoyed all the ones I've played (ME 1-3, DA1/2, KOTOR, BG) immensely.

 

So, if this game isn't that good, I'll still buy the next one and ME4 when it comes out anyhow. Well, unless they turn it all into some sort of multiplayer disaster. I hate those.

[Naesaki]

@Darth Krytie, these are the exact same sentiments I feel, Bioware have never disappointed me to the point that I wouldn't buy their games again not to say I haven't been dissapointed with some aspects of how certain games panned out, the way some people have reacted are giving the impression their heart and soul was torn out and ripped up into tiny little bits