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there's no more shepard but you're a soldier. wait?


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“So first, we don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’. So this will be a very, very different context for sure, and nothing has been decided on the rest.”

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hmm wait, so the next hero is gonna be soldier? why cant i be someone else like a doctor or an engineer prefer a much peaceful role? why does it have to be another gun toting ******. so where gonna be expecting alot of war again. i don't know if that is just sad.

 

 



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hmm wait, so the next hero is gonna be soldier? why cant i be someone else like a doctor or an engineer prefer a much peaceful role? why does it have to be another gun toting ******. so where gonna be expecting alot of war again. i don't know if that is just sad.

 

 

Are you serious? Do you not understand how dangerous the Mass Effect Universe is?

 

But to be honest, I don't want to play as another jarhead (tired of that role), I prefer paramilitary organizations or badass civilians like Isaac Clarke.   



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Yeah if you find me an action-rpg that is peaceful. Games, like movies and books are built upon some kind of conflict that the main character is tasked to overcome. Considering this is a scifi action type of fiction it is pretty much part of the formula to have the shootouts. Or sword fights, or something else like that. If you want games where you dont have to fight then go play adventure games or something like that. 



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I for one would like to play as a smuggler type character who pilots a small run down cargo ship on the run from the authorities and crime bosses.

This is the type of character I would like to play in the next Mass effect, just an average guy/gal trying to make a living but ends up mostly on the wrong side of the law or the wrong side of the gangs and for the most part ends up in over his/her head as he/she falls into the trap of working for unscrupulous crime bosses.

 

This type of character doesn't get to become a soldier, spectre or savior of the galaxy, he/she doesn't get the most advanced frigate in the galaxy with an A.I, this character is simply out to survive in the underbelly of galactic society in a run down little cargo ship always in need of repairs (Think Firefly in the Mass Effect universe).

 

It would be interesting to haver certain characters join your team dependent on Paragon/Renegade alignment or perhaps some characters may not always agree with your decisions that can lead to them leaving or challenging your authority. This could lead to some interesting internal conflicts with your squad that is a complete departure from the "we are family" feeling of Shepard's squad.

 

That is just an example of what I would like to see in the next Mass Effect, No Soldier, No galactic threats, No Reapers but the opportunity to fully explore the Mass Effect universe in ways we've not yet seen before.



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“So first, we don’t want to make ‘Shepard 2′, or Mass Effect 4 with like, ‘oh there’s no more Shepard but you’re a soldier in the universe’. So this will be a very, very different context for sure, and nothing has been decided on the rest.”

Read more: http://www.gamerhead.../#ixzz2uXTqs8Zw

 

hmm wait, so the next hero is gonna be soldier? why cant i be someone else like a doctor or an engineer prefer a much peaceful role? why does it have to be another gun toting ******. so where gonna be expecting alot of war again. i don't know if that is just sad.

 

context suggest sarcasm, they are basically say they dont want mass effect 4 with shepard OR a soldier. they want something very very different.



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Cerberus Operative ftw



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I want to play as a space archaeologist.



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shodiswe

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Some kind of mercenary band leader would work...... perhaps even one that kind of inherits the merc band after the old leader dies.
That would give you more of a blank slate.

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I'm happy with another Marine. 

 

Also just because two characters share the same profession doesn't mean they are going to be similar. Captain Kirk and Captain Picard were both Starfleet officers in command of ships named Enterprise, but their personalities were nothing alike.



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OP you're misreading them.

 

They're saying:

-No ME1-3 Shepard, he's gone

-No soldier story and feel, as they'd just be another 'Shepard 2.0', which they don't want

 

 

So look forward to:

-Even if crazy fan theories (IT, etc) are right about 'Shepard' returning, he won't actually be the same 'person'

-No more soldier story and feel

 

Look at the 6 classes. Only ONE is soldier. When you play as any of the classes, it's still all done in the framework of being a 'N7 soldier'.

 

But what if the next game isn't like what?

 

What's an 'engineer' story, for example? Would it involve being someone who's more (overall) trying to fix and build things instead of shoot them?

 

We'd still kill things, but maybe not focus *as* much on the gameplay.

 

I think that's what they mean. Don't look for the next game to be like a hot war with us as the big shooty shoot hero. They'd just be a 'Shepard 2', and they don't want to do that.

 

It doesn't mean we won't frequently shoot things. Liara was on the team and could fire a gun, but she was hardly a 'soldier' except when right in the thick of ME3 (where everyone had to be a 'soldier' if they wanted to win).



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Yeah OP, I think you missed the context....


He's saying that ME4 isn't going to be like "oh Shepard's gone, but you're still a soldier".


Reread it again.


"We don't want to make Shepard 2.0 or an ME4 where Shep is dead but you're still a soldier. " (paraphrased, but that's exactly what he meant)


You guys would spare yourselves a lot of rage if you didn't take every single quote out of context and twist it in the most pessimistic manner possible.
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If the next protagonist isn't a soldier I hope the plot meshes well with the character's profession.

 

Say for example the next protagonist is a pirate. If he or she is going to end up saving the galaxy than unlike an N7 Marine, he or she should be an accidental hero who only foils the main villain's plot when they quite unintentionally get drawn into it. The space pirate shouldn't be having meetings with the Council where they annoint him or her their representative and send them forth to defeat the big bad.

 

A space pirate also shouldn't be rallying fleets and factions (like ME3). That would be a job fob for a military officer or a Spectre, not a private citizen who also happens to be a wanted criminal.



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OP you're misreading them.

 

They're saying:

-No ME1-3 Shepard, he's gone

-No soldier story and feel, as they'd just be another 'Shepard 2.0', which they don't want

 

 

So look forward to:

-Even if crazy fan theories (IT, etc) are right about 'Shepard' returning, he won't actually be the same 'person'

-No more soldier story and feel

 

Look at the 6 classes. Only ONE is soldier. When you play as any of the classes, it's still all done in the framework of being a 'N7 soldier'.

 

But what if the next game isn't like what?

 

What's an 'engineer' story, for example? Would it involve being someone who's more (overall) trying to fix and build things instead of shoot them?

 

We'd still kill things, but maybe not focus *as* much on the gameplay.

 

I think that's what they mean. Don't look for the next game to be like a hot war with us as the big shooty shoot hero. They'd just be a 'Shepard 2', and they don't want to do that.

 

It doesn't mean we won't frequently shoot things. Liara was on the team and could fire a gun, but she was hardly a 'soldier' except when right in the thick of ME3 (where everyone had to be a 'soldier' if they wanted to win).

 

"I'm an archaeologist. I've only faced a few bandits before"

-is added to exploration team of hardened soldiers with training. 



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eyez, ME1 for the most part (except towards the end) wasn't too bad for intensity of combat in the story.

 

I could believe Liara joining.

 

But as a core character, she's not a soldier-type (talking archetypes here now) until, like, nearing the end of ME3, where she and everyone else is forced to fight or die.

 

Before that, she tried to be more sneaky, more indirect, more spying, more information-gathering. When she joins Shepard, sure, she gets pulled into the fight (she even comments on that), but otherwise she tries to avoid direct conflict.

 

That's what I mean. If we had an 'adept' themed story, that's probably what we'd be (more) about.

 

Doesn't mean soldiers can't join us and try to fit our story. That's fine. One can be the most Blue/Paragon/Adept/Indirect/Peaceful Shepard, and friggin Zaeed can still join.

 

 

This is the kinda thing I'd imagine, just off the top of my head:

 

Soldier --> Soldier, duh, overall

Engineer --> Engineer/Architect(of sorts)/Synthetic

Adept --> Scientist/Doctor/Investigator

Infiltrator --> Spy/Investigator/Thief

Vanguard --> Like Soldier but less tied to duty/Free Agent/Leader

Sentinel --> Manipulator/Protector/

 

Obviously the hybrid classes are harder to pin down, but you get the drift.

 

But yeah, I think it's still a good model. So we don't get the 'N7 Soldier', oh well, the next game will still likely involve 'N7' (especially given that more recent 'leak' where they asked people what 'N7' meant to them), but I'd consider it to emphasize a more special operations feeling, than the soldier fighting the good fight directly.

 

More variety, but still not as restrictive as a purely run-and-gun deal, or tied to Shepard's story, is what I've gathered. Could be wrong I suppose.