I don't think the Architect is one. He doesn't seem to have the same vibe or even form. Yeah he is different from regular DS, but he doesn't have the same aged look as Corypheus.
Really? When I met both, I got the exact same feeling from them. Well, it's fine regardless. I think he is one, you think he is not.
Again, Gaider specifically mentions how convenient it is that Ferelden and others can't respond to the threat and Ferelden's reason is that its recovering from the blight.
And I agree it all is very convenient, but I think Ferelden is the only one that didn't have anything to do with whoever is behind the tear
The Mage/Templar conflict probably isn't either, but the Peace Conference probably is
Really? When I met both, I got the exact same feeling from them. Well, it's fine regardless. I think he is one, you think he is not.
Wait, this is the bioware forum, we can't have any of this logical understanding going around. Spike(the armored oger in my avatar) get him before he spreads any of his infectious understanding to others on the forum 
What DA needs a group of antagonists that actually last more then a single game so we can blame everything on them whether they had anything to do with it or not.
What DA needs a group of antagonists that actually last more then a single game so we can blame everything on them whether they had anything to do with it or not.
Well...if there was indeed someone who has been behind things from the beginning, then technically they have lasted more than a single game.
And I agree it all is very convenient, but I think Ferelden is the only one that didn't have anything to do with whoever is behind the tear
The Mage/Templar conflict probably isn't either, but the Peace Conference probably is
Ok, I could grant you the blight being possibly not orchestrated, even thought the way Gaider says it is an alarm going of in my head, but I can go with that.
The mage/templar conflict is entirely orchestrated, the circles have stood for 1000 years with the templars without a war occurring, and all of a sudden after having 17 ROAs in 900 years, we have 2-3 in what 12 years? This is obviously orchestrated and all 3 sides are being played.
What DA needs a group of antagonists that actually last more then a single game so we can blame everything on them whether they had anything to do with it or not.
A DA version of TOR's Dread Masters and KH Organization 13
A DA version of TOR's Dread Masters and KH Organization 13
Oh God, not another Master Xehanort.
Oh God, not another Master Xehanort.
He wants the power of the Black City
Oh God, not another Master Xehanort.
You mean Oh Jashin! 
A DA version of TOR's Dread Masters and KH Organization 13
Exactly.
He wants the power of the Black City
It's better then him randomly screaming the title of the game in your ear every other cutscene 
Wait, this is the bioware forum, we can't have any of this logical understanding going around. Spike(the armored oger in my avatar) get him before he spreads any of his infectious understanding to others on the forum
If I slay your Ogre, will Flemeth come and make me a hero? She seems to do that.
If it is a group of people I hope they're diverse (Warriors, Rogues, and Mages) and not like Mages from Tevinter
If it is a group of people I hope they're diverse (Warriors, Rogues, and Mages) and not like Mages from Tevinter
Indeed. Although, in game, I'm gonna bet that the first thing most Thedosians will do is point fingers at Tevinter.
You mean Oh Jashin!
*insert picture of Hidan here*
Did somebody mention this guy's lord?
If it is a group of people I hope they're diverse (Warriors, Rogues, and Mages) and not like Mages from Tevinter
Yeah, I hope it is not a Mage, or not just a Mage, antagonist. We have enough arguments about mages being evil incarnate on this site already.
If it is a group of people I hope they're diverse (Warriors, Rogues, and Mages) and not like Mages from Tevinter
If my theory actually turns out to at least be partially true what with the hired hands being an organization behind the chaos from the Veil Tears then the Leader is likely a mage who has been contacted by whatever or whomever is employing them but as for the make up of the group?
I figure any one skilled, lacking morals and having a lust for conquest, gold and bloodshed would be welcome.
Indeed. Although, in game, I'm gonna bet that the first thing most Thedosians will do is point fingers at Tevinter.
Well given the Venatori, I wouldn't be surprised if a Tevinter Magister was apart of the group
*insert picture of Hidan here*
Did somebody mention this guy's lord?
Maybe
How come the picture worked for you? I tried pasting two smaller pictures but it wouldn't let me post either one. 
If my theory actually turns out to at least be partially true what with the hired hands being an organization behind the chaos from the Veil Tears then the Leader is likely a mage who has been contacted by whatever or whomever is employing them but as for the make up of the group?
I figure any one skilled, lacking morals and having a lust for conquest, gold and bloodshed would be welcome.
What if he ends up being an Arcane Warrior?
How come the picture worked for you? I tried pasting two smaller pictures but it wouldn't let me post either one.
Size/Frame Restrictions most likely (Has several albums of the Akatsuki on Hardrive already)
What if he ends up being an Arcane Warrior?
A Rarity but a Mage is a Mage, And is what my theory would require given if it is a demon contacting them and leading them towards the objective they would need something within the Fade to tether them to said demon, Namely the sleeping dreamscape of said mage.
I'd lean towards either a Magister or perhaps a renegade Apostate as more likely then an Arcane Warrior though.
There aren't many of them floating around.
Size/Frame Restrictions most likely (Has several albums of the Akatsuki on Hardrive already)
A Rarity but a Mage is a Mage, And is what my theory would require given if it is a demon contacting them and leading them towards the objective they would need something within the Fade to tether them to said demon, Namely the sleeping dreamscape of said mage.
I'd lean towards either a Magister or perhaps a renegade Apostate as more likely then an Arcane Warrior though.
There aren't many of them floating around.
Maybe I was trying to make them too small. Oh well.
Ontopic, it could be possible for the demon to communicate through an object. I personally think Red Lyrium is a tool for whoever/whatever it is. I mean, even Bartrand who has never been in the Fade even in sleep heard 'singing' from the idol. And both Bartrand and Meredith started piling up a bodycount due to the effect the Red Lyrium had on them, and bloodshed weakens the Veil.
Behind everything will be someone we have seen a connection to. It may not be Corypheus, but it could be someone as yet unidentified connected to him. It's not going to be completely new player with no previous introduction. I'm guessing someone from Origins for the simple reason of "If you show a gun in Act One, you need to fire it by Act Three). Inquisition looks like a big ol' gun is being fired.
It's also not going to be a moustache-twirling villain who only lives for Chaos. Despite what Alfred said, people who just want to watch the world burn make for terrible plot. Even of it looks that way at first glance, there will be a bigger picture revealed later.
I don't believe it's Flemeth simply because she seems to be in it only for herself, and she gains little to nothing from these events.
I'm of the personal opinion that the rip in the Veil is a distraction. A huge one mind you, and it may serve another purpose ultimately. But ripping open the veil doesn't seem to be a big enough goal in and of itself. that said, *a* reason for it could simply be the "fade spirits are jealous of humanity." Justice was really getting seduced by the experience of being human.
But what's bigger than that? Where is the dramatic tension on a character level? The big reveal will be a twist of some sort (possibly even a twist on a twist) and will have a deeply rooted character motivation at its heart. One of the only ones I'm coming up with is tied directly to the original magisters.
It's not just to be evil, but destroying the Maker's creation is a huge middle finger for the perceived damnation they suffered. They're going to think the punishment was far too severe for their crime. The prideful never think their arrogance is misplaced.
The OGs seem too foundation level to be responsible, though Flemeth being an uncorrupted OG isn't too far fetched. And of course, Morrigan and the OG Baby will probably be significantly involved in the resolution of the Flemeth plotline. Morrigan turning Flemeth's plan against her, even as Flemeth thinks Morrigan is dancing on her strings, would be great. It's a version of the "I know that you know that I know" deal.
Back to the mastermind though. I just had a thought while typing all this. having a mortal human ultimately be behind all of this, a chantry person for example, would be a dramatic coup. Think of it - if you're a devout, true believer who wonders why the Maker could have abandoned everything just because of the Magisters, what would be a way to get his attention? Do everything you can to put the world in jeapordy - force the Maker's hand. If a mortal could have manipulated these things, set forces in motion simply to get Dad to show he still cares... AND if you can pull it off believeably, that would be strong.
So now I'm going with that. The ultimate string puller is a mortal who wants god to come back and fix everything and love his children again. If anyone could undo all of this and turn Thedas into a paradise, it'd be the Maker.
(I'm not saying the Maker will show up or anything, just that, in this hypothesis, that could be the reason behind the crazy.)
Maybe I was trying to make them too small. Oh well.
Ontopic, it could be possible for the demon to communicate through an object. I personally think Red Lyrium is a tool for whoever/whatever it is. I mean, even Bartrand who has never been in the Fade even in sleep heard 'singing' from the idol. And both Bartrand and Meredith started piling up a bodycount due to the effect the Red Lyrium had on them, and bloodshed weakens the Veil.
An unknown demon that isn't a Pride, Desire, hunger, sloth with the help would a group of people in Thedas to cause the Veil Tear?
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