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[CuriousArtemis]

I don't mean to belittle your request, OP, but with respect, it seems a silly thing to be bothered about? Now, I certainly agree that it would be nice if romantic encounters with one's LI were less "scripted." But I think the team are hard at work at finding that perfect balance. 

 

As to allowing my character the freedom to bed his/her LI whenever s/he wants... it just seems an odd thing to request. I like romance scenes because they are new and add something to the characters and the relationship. I don't need to keep hitting a button to see the same kiss scene followed by the tent scene followed by the +1 approval.

[Mes]

I believe David Gaider mentioned on his tumblr that Alistair was 20 or 21 in DA:O. (Making him in his mid-late 20's at the end of DA2)

 

 

Oh god. Oh well I shall just have to stick with my head-canon for that one lol. 

 

In that case YES I would love to see a more grown man as a LI. But not middle-aged, either. Just a regular, hot adult. 

[Snook]

I'm yet to see a modder whose female Warden doesn't look like a sex worker. C'mon, girl, you're at a funeral. Show some respect.

 

[Zelanthair]

I don't mean to belittle your request, OP, but with respect, it seems a silly thing to be bothered about? Now, I certainly agree that it would be nice if romantic encounters with one's LI were less "scripted." But I think the team are hard at work at finding that perfect balance. 

 

As to allowing my character the freedom to bed his/her LI whenever s/he wants... it just seems an odd thing to request. I like romance scenes because they are new and add something to the characters and the relationship. I don't need to keep hitting a button to see the same kiss scene followed by the tent scene followed by the +1 approval.

 

The entire purpose of a suggestion thread was to put forth ideas for future games. If I didn't make this topic, eventually someone else would have. I know that some people don't care much for the romances, which is totally fine. I get that. But it would be nice to work on the romances for those who do buy the game mostly to toy with the romances. It's not a vital part to gameplay, so it wouldn't hurt for those who don't care much for the romancing to just ignore it. For me, however, I'd take great notice. I've barely played DA2 because the romances were a let down to me. I've played exactly two games of DA2, ignoring most of the side quests just to get my mage and templar outcome. I've played over 150 hours spread on about 5 or 6 games in DA:O, though, because the romances are marginally better (in my opinion). 

 

Now, as for the whole hitting a button to see the same kiss scene followed by darkness after asking my LI to my tent...well, sometimes it's satisfying just to see that little bit. It increases my characters' personality. I have my human female use the tent all the time with Alistair. She's quite insatiable. However, I have a Dalish elf who rarely chooses the tent option with Zevran because she is still getting over Tamlen's death. She's also a bit shy. It's all about the roleplaying for me. Building a story. As someone who writes on the side for fun, it's great to act this stuff out on my console and write about it later.

 

Some requests are indeed foolish (like asking for a magical horse with wings as a mount), but just putting forth the idea to bring back an aspect that was in a previous game is not foolish. (Don't get me wrong. I like hearing feedback. And dear god this thread has been getting a lot of replies while I was typing this. I'm just gonna go ahead and post it and edit it if I forget something.)

[CuriousArtemis]

The entire purpose of a suggestion thread was to put forth ideas for future games. If I didn't make this topic, eventually someone else would have. I know that some people don't care much for the romances, which is totally fine. I get that. But it would be nice to work on the romances for those who do buy the game mostly to toy with the romances. It's not a vital part to gameplay, so it wouldn't hurt for those who don't care much for the romancing to just ignore it. For me, however, I'd take great notice. I've barely played DA2 because the romances were a let down to me. I've played exactly two games of DA2, ignoring most of the side quests just to get my mage and templar outcome. I've played over 150 hours spread on about 5 or 6 games in DA:O, though, because the romances are marginally better (in my opinion). 

 

Now, as for the whole hitting a button to see the same kiss scene followed by darkness after asking my LI to my tent...well, sometimes it's satisfying just to see that little bit. It increases my characters' personality. I have my human female use the tent all the time with Alistair. She's quite insatiable. However, I have a Dalish elf who rarely chooses the tent option with Zevran because she is still getting over Tamlen's death. She's also a bit shy. It's all about the roleplaying for me. Building a story. As someone who writes on the side for fun, it's great to act this stuff out on my console and write about it later.

 

Some requests are indeed foolish (like asking for a magical horse with wings as a mount), but just putting forth the idea to bring back an aspect that was in a previous game is not foolish. (Don't get me wrong. I like hearing feedback. And dear god this thread has been getting a lot of replies while I was typing this. I'm just gonna go ahead and post it and edit it if I forget something.)

 

I love the romances; they are my favorite part of the games. I liked DA2 more than DA:O because I thought the romances felt richer and deeper; the cinematic scenes added to the narrative, and it felt so much more "real" than just standing face to face and pumping my LI with questions. I liked how the romances came with their own storyline for each character (i.e. freeing Fenris and killing Danarius for him = earning his love and his respect). I also intensely dislike the voiceless Warden; I felt my Warden had no personality; his face was always blank, whereas Hawke would smile, roll his eyes, or scowl. And of course, those different personalities you could cultivate!

 

I'm also a writer, so I hear you on that. In my opinion, though, pressing the button and watching the same kiss/tent scene + cheesy music over and over was by itself kind of silly. You have to add in your head all the intricacies of why your character has chosen to click on Alistair or Leliana for the 100th time because the game certainly doesn't do that for you! 

 

I'm sorry for suggesting that your desire was foolish (although I think "silly" and "foolish," while they mean the same thing, granted, "silly" is not as mean as "foolish" lol). Definitely didn't mean to ruffle your feathers or set your back against the wall. By all means, make suggestions! I tried to respond respectfully and politely by voicing my own opinion, and I'm sorry if I did offend you 

[Thermopylae]

What I would like is more varied and hilarious "getting turned down" and peeved off responses by NPC's, such as "You want to do what? With all this gore and tragedy?", "No. What is wrong with you?" and  the old "God no and i've got a headache for the next ten years".  It would elaborate the personality of the NPC's and be rather entertaining. Again possibly only in my opinion.

 

I found the romances to be somewhat mechanical, but there has to be some kind of carrot. I liked the aspects of personality that the writers carried over to them. Vaguely interested in how the writers integrate the process in the narrative of DAI, more of a lets see approach than requests, but appreciate comedy.

[HunterX6]

Kissing and making love with you LI whenever you both decide makes the games a bit more realistic.

[DeaHamlet]

I just want to be able to have conversations with the companions again and my love interest.  Him just standing there in my house was weird and not engaging.  Also the option to determine the speed at which we progressed, DA2 made the mistake of just throwing that at you and if you took it slow you just basically missed out on it.  Random kissing and choosing to banter between fights would be nice because it's a huge open world... I'm pretty sure people would talk sometimes and it'd be nice to control that.

 

I'm all for people requesting for more options, more content etc, and only requests I find silly are those requiring that they cut down parts that a particular person finds tedious or doesn't like (like requesting less fighting or less romancing or less interaction).  

 

I would prefer that LIs be consistent in their gender preferences.  If they are bi, they are always bi.  If they are gay, they are always gay.  If they are straight, always straight.  While I loved that most LIs were available whether female or male and I think that added a lot, it did make it as if they were different people based on who you played as.  I wasn't keen on that I'd prefer companions to be their own person and the only things you can impact is how much of themselves they reveal to you and how they grow through the experiences they have with you.  For example if they are anti-mage but you are mage... perhaps seeing the good you do and how good of a person you are and having nice conversations... they realize not all mages are bad.  But if you're killing innocents and being an ass to the anti-mage, maybe he/she solidifies their strong dislike of mages to a seething hatred (maybe even having a fight with you or leaving over it).  If you're not a mage, but you take a healer mage with you all the time that is kind (like in DAO), maybe they have some impact on the anti-mage person too and maybe they have a bit of interesting banter as a result.

[Eveangaline]

Because it wasn't replaced by some other kind of LI feedback system. When starting a conversation with a follower I expect there to be something extra if it is your LI. It doesn't have to be kissing per se, but something to indicate that it's my LI.

Haven't they said they're bringing kissing back?

[smoke and mirrors]

I hope they go more for DAO romance , i think DA2 romance was like an after thought  it didn`t have the depth Of DAO . i  agree with all your points zelanthair .

[Darth Krytie]

My favourite romances were Anders and Alistair because they were both interwoven into the plot of the games themselves...that's why they're my favourite. I did miss not being able to get smoochies whenever I wanted in DA2. I just would like some sort of indication that the relationship is there throughout the game. Not necessarily a whole of cut scenes, but little indications that it's not over as soon as you sleep with them. Which seems to be the case a lot of the times.

[wright1978]

Personally I thought da2 largely handled the romances better. There was clearly an implied sleeping together & I don't think there's a need for a invite to bed-fade to black a la dao.

[Mockingword]

I don't care. I don't require the romance plotlines to even involve sex at all.

[Mockingword]

Personally I thought da2 largely handled the romances better. There was clearly an implied sleeping together & I don't think there's a need for a invite to bed-fade to black a la dao.

BUT THEY HAD THEIR CLOTHES ON BEFORE THE BLACK, AND THEN THEY WERE STILL FULLY DRESSED AFTER! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT THE CHARACTERS HAD SEX UNLESS I CAN WITNESS EVERY SWEATY, GRUNTING DETAIL?

 

BIOWARE IS TREATING US LIKE CHILDREN! WE KNOW WHAT SEX IS! WE JUST CAN'T RECOGNIZE OBVIOUS VISUAL AND VERBAL CUES THAT INDICATE ITS OCCURENCE!

[Darth Krytie]

I don't care. I don't require the romance plotlines to even involve sex at all.

 

It'd be nice if at least one of them didn't. I've got plenty of Ace friends who'd love if romance didn't always equal sex.

 

Personally I thought da2 largely handled the romances better. There was clearly an implied sleeping together & I don't think there's a need for a invite to bed-fade to black a la dao.

 

I don't really have a preference, really. Though, I think the whole wake up in full armor is kinda weird. (Like Fenris.) Though, I recall that Gaider said it was an issue of either topless Fenris or a quest elsewhere.

[Mockingword]

It'd be nice if at least one of them didn't. I've got plenty of Ace friends who'd love if romance didn't always equal sex.

Well, for my part, I'm going to assume that the characters either bone after the credits roll, or have been boning off-screen. Unless they're underage, or the setting is like, Regency England or something.

 

But many romances in many stories, I dare say the vast majority, climax (teehee) with a kiss or a marriage or just a declaration of love, with no clear indication that sex of any kind has taken place, or that it ever will. And somehow we manage to not burn down the movie theatre.

[Talagen]

What I would prefer to see, more then anything else, would be the companionship.  So often in DA2 you would hear your companions talk about meeting up and playing cards or something.  Even the ones that didn't care much for each other.  Then, there your toon was, just standing there listening to how much fun they had. 

 

Your character was running around trying to save their family, their companions, Kirkwall, everyone in Kirkwall and God knows what else and no one ever thought to invite the PC?  There were times I wished my toon had the option to just kick them.  All of the companions were...give me, give me, give me...prove your loyal...then after jumping through all the hoops they supposedly run off with each other and leave the PC behind.  Worst of all, was your love interest.  I felt they showed more development in the companions friendship and romance then the PC had with any of them put together.

The kissing, hugging and tent scene were sweet in DAO and I don't have a problem with any of that.  I just want a few scenes were the PC is included in showing the intimacy of the companions friendship.

[KaiserShep]

Kissing, hugging and stuff like that is alright, but I think what I'd like to see the most is more in-depth friendship dialogue that doesn't necessarily relate to romance. If your character is in a romance with a certain companion, I guess a couple of LI-specific lines can be thrown in, but a lot of the other stuff would be there if your character has a high approval/friendship score with that companion. DA:O actually did this really well, since each companion had quite a lot to say, and of course you got the added bonus of being able to unlock their companion quests should your approval be high enough.

[Blackrising]

I never actually used the 'let's go to our tent' option, but I LOVED the random kissing you could do. Never failed to make me go 'awwww' and it does help make everything seem a bit more real, you know? When I'm in a relationship, it's normal to have the urge to randomly cuddle or kiss my partner, isn't it?

(But it bothered me that Zevran and Leliana didn't get that option.)

So as far as I'm concerned, they should replace the 'come to my tent and let's bang' with a 'come to my tent and let's cuddle and then fall asleep in each other's arms' option.

Man, I really hope they decide to bring that feature back. I missed it so in DA2.

[KaiserShep]

The best part about the random affection was actually the companions' reactions.

[mopotter]

I'm basically a romantic and BW is the only game developer who gives me the fix I want.  Enjoyed ME1 romance scene with the lighting, music and romance with a loud R, much more than DA:O and DA:O much more than DA2.  But I did like being able to talk to my LI whenever I wanted in DA:O, even if all they said was "yes love?" And yes, kissing your LI or giving them a hug anywhere other than battle would be great.  My husband still holds my hand and kisses me in public and it's very nice.  I also enjoyed the others making little comments, it made me smile.  

 

I didn't care for the romances in DA2 as much.  I liked that they were different from each other, but I got really irritated with them just standing at the top of the stairs and not talking to me, and Fenris, when I did his romance, it brought back the image of a one night stand.  Not romantic and not my idea of a good relationship.  Even Morrigan with her issues was better (imo) than Fenris. And I liked Fenris as a character.

 

I know the romance in their games isn't loved by everyone, even though they are optional, and I also usually play at least once without doing them,  but for me it does make a difference if two games that look good come out at the same time, I've always picked BW first the the other one later down the road.  Without the romance I'm not sure which I'd pick first.

 

Saw someone mention this -  Friendship conversations with everyone. Yes, throughout the whole game.  I laughed every time I talked to Lelliana about hair and shoes (I used to have a rather large collection of shoes myself).  And showing my character interacting with the others would be great, even a group, which would change so could be done a couple of times,  is playing a card game and invite you over, you can say yes or no and if  you say yes it shows the sun coming up through a window, the group breaking up and sometimes you win, sometimes you lose and sometime break even.  Or something. 

[Rosey]

I think people tend to forget that DA2 is set as an ALREADY HAPPENED story, where we're playing through to fill the gaps. The Cave, The House, The Love scene... lack of random conversations or random kissing or random bedroom time is intentional because Varric obviously didn't have privy to Hawke's homelife 99.9% of the time. Hawke randomly making out with his/her LI is hardly important. In fact it has zero relivence to the story Varric is telling Cass.

 

I mean honestly Cas doesn't seem the type to really be all that interested weither or not Hawke made out with their IL every 4th second. If she was, I'm sure she would have been asking Isabela instead of Varric

[Mockingword]

Let us kiss, hug, and **** our LI. The LIs in DA2 felt so artificial and isolated in terms of actual romantic interaction, besides their occasional dialogue quips.

Unless every single kiss, hug and pork session is going to be individually scripted, I don't see how they would help the romances seem any less artificial. If anything, the repetitive nature of these scenes in DA:O only served to highlight the fact that these were not real people. Like trying to talk to them after they've run out of content.

 

My experience is admittedly limited, so maybe I'm wrong, and people really do respond with the same stock line after every kiss, and the guy I made out with was just a highly advanced AI.

[Mockingword]

I think people tend to forget that DA2 is set as an ALREADY HAPPENED story, where we're playing through to fill the gaps. The Cave, The House, The Love scene... lack of random conversations or random kissing or random bedroom time is intentional because Varric obviously didn't have privy to Hawke's homelife 99.9% of the time. Hawke randomly making out with his/her LI is hardly important. In fact it has zero relivence to the story Varric is telling Cass.

 

I mean honestly Cas doesn't seem the type to really be all that interested weither or not Hawke made out with their IL every 4th second. If she was, I'm sure she would have been asking Isabela instead of Varric

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