No no, that's not what I said haha. What I meant was that, since Wynne's alive, either the Ashes were defiled and she wasn't there, they were defiled and she was there and subsequently talked down, or they weren't defiled at all.
I'm merely talking of how Wynne having traveled with the Warden has its own effect on other scenarios. The dialogue and other things in supplemental material tell us more then meets the eye.
At face value, some things seem like they say only one thing, but Wynne having traveled with the Warden says that the Circle was saved (and more then that), since Irving is alive as well.