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[darkchief10]

I don't feel confortable with this, it feels as gimmicky as having a darkspawn companion,I'd be cool with cole or another wynne/anders abomination. but we'll see how it goes.

[Grieving Natashina]

Shame they don't die huh? 

I thought they died if you killed them while in the Fade.  Since it is their home plane.   Or are you just banishing them?  I honestly have never been sure of that.

 

If it's the latter, then I'll amend my statement: The only good demon is a thoroughly banished one. 

[KainD]

I thought they died if you killed them while in the Fade.  Since it is their home plane.   Or are you just banishing them?  I honestly have never been sure of that.

 

If it's the latter, then I'll amend my statement: The only good demon is a thoroughly banished one. 

 

They lose their ''power level'' and are kinda reborn as weak wisps. They can regain their power again over long periods of time though, or take a different turn. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I thought they died if you killed them while in the Fade.  Since it is their home plane.   Or are you just banishing them?  I honestly have never been sure of that.

 

If it's the latter, then I'll amend my statement: The only good demon is a thoroughly banished one. 

They become Wisp Wraiths for a long time, but eventually will become demons again.

[Nefla]

As long as I had the option to kill it as soon as we meet it or at least skip recruiting it I wouldn't care. I would not want such a thing as a companion ever.

[Grieving Natashina]

They become Wisp Wraiths for a long time, but eventually will become demons again.

Hmm, interesting thought.  Thanks for the info.  

 

IIRC, deep in the Creation tree in DA:O, there was a wisp available as a summon.  Is there a difference between a wisp wraith and the ones that can be summoned in that tree? 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Hmm, interesting thought.  Thanks for the info.  

 

IIRC, deep in the Creation tree in DA:O, there was a wisp available as a summon.  Is there a difference between a wisp wraith and the ones that can be summoned in that tree? 

 

Wisp wraiths have more consciousness than regular wisps, which results in them having hatred towards everything.

[Grieving Natashina]

Ah, thanks so much.

 

Thinking about it further, I still wouldn't want a demon anywhere near my party.  However, a spirit like the Elder Tree is a different matter.  He was alright and quite the bard!

[Liyros]

I really want to interact (as in talk) with another Pride Demon. Random exploration encounter, storyline NPC, or companion, I'm not particular.  That'd be great.

[Lotion Soronarr]

No more abominations. No more demons.

 

If one is one tough, I hope it backfires spectacularly on the player.

Like the player romances a desire demon - like in that image - and gets it to be a loyal and obedient servant.

 

Expect it was all a ploy, and the demon way manipulating you, playing with you all along.

 

And then it laughs in your face and gets back to the Fade scott free, beyond your reach.

[KainD]

 

If one is one tough, I hope it backfires spectacularly on the player.

 

 

I think it should only backfire if players intentions don't match that of the demon. 

[acid_rain82]

No

[Aremce]

Well, basically no. I could only think of two exceptions which I would be okay with:

 

1) You can recruit a demon temporarily, but it will eventually betray you because it's in its nature. Kind of a Morinth situation, maybe, but even worse. This would actually be great, thinking about it ...

 

2) Yes, Cole. I think his story has not ended yet, plus it's still not completely clear what he really is. Of course, this loose ends could as well be handled in a side quest, other media, whatever ... but I wouldn't mind having him as a companion.

[KainD]

1) You can recruit a demon temporarily, but it will eventually betray you because it's in its nature. Kind of a Morinth situation, maybe, but even worse. This would actually be great, thinking about it ...

 

 

Don't bring Morinth into this, she never betrayed Shepard. 

[A.Kazama]

Whoever wants a demon as a companion is as dumb as Merrill.

Although cole would make for an interesting companion...

/scrub that first part!

[Grieving Natashina]

That's it.  I'm getting Asunder this weekend.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Nobody ever wants a spirit companion. Oh no, they have to want a demon. And then they wonder why all of a sudden the auto-dialouge goes through the roof and your castle is looking like the inside of a obese alcoholics prostate.

[Aremce]

Don't bring Morinth into this, she never betrayed Shepard. 

 

Ah yes, sorry, that's what I meant with "worse". Morinth just kills Shepard if he/she is too stupid to life, I know. I brought her up anyway because I imagine teaming up with a demon would work in a similiar questionable way, from a morally viewpoint ... and also a logical viewpoint.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

That's it.  I'm getting Asunder this weekend.

You should. It's a pretty good read.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Nobody ever wants a spirit companion. Oh no, they have to want a demon. And then they wonder why all of a sudden the auto-dialouge goes through the roof and your castle is looking like the inside of a obese alcoholics prostate.

We already had a spirit companion. His name was Justice. And I mean in Awakening when his human vessel was a corpse so it wasn't like Kristoff chimed in much.

[KainD]

Ah yes, sorry, that's what I meant with "worse". Morinth just kills Shepard if he/she is too stupid to life, I know. I brought her up anyway because I imagine teaming up with a demon would work in a similiar questionable way, from a morally viewpoint ... and also a logical viewpoint.

 

I firmly believe that Morinth never wanted to kill Shepard. But hey I am just a stupid illogical person. 

[KaiserShep]

Nobody ever wants a spirit companion. Oh no, they have to want a demon. And then they wonder why all of a sudden the auto-dialouge goes through the roof and your castle is looking like the inside of a obese alcoholics prostate.

 

I guess people are just aching for the drama a demon brings to the table. I read that last bit as obese alcoholic apostate, and I have to say I'm not totally opposed to the concept.

[KainD]

Nobody ever wants a spirit companion. Oh no, they have to want a demon. And then they wonder why all of a sudden the auto-dialouge goes through the roof and your castle is looking like the inside of a obese alcoholics prostate.

 

Spirits are not very interested, where's demons are. I think that's why. 

[Aremce]

I firmly believe that Morinth never wanted to kill Shepard. But hey I am just a stupid illogical person. 

 

Okay yes, I was mostly speaking from Shepards point of view. Killing off a reliable follower in order to recruit a serial killer you literally just met? Very "for teh evulz", in my opinion. Morinths motivations are of course up for discussion, however - she is a threedimensional (if you can say that in English, too?) character after all.

 

Which a demon isn't, unless I really missed some important piece of lore about them.

[Cainhurst Crow]

lol, nobody wants a charlie in the box spirit companion. XD