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A return of the moderate character?


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#401
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I consider Zevran to be neutral evil, personally. Maybe he shifted after Origins was over, but he was far too happy to commit murder, on the whole, to not be evil.


I agree. He was a professional assassin who recognized and acknowledged what he was and what he did, and had no problems with any of it.

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Think Aveline is very much a duty and order person and her polar oppositie is Isabela is who is freedom oriented. Both are equally moderate in my eyes but just with her role Aveline has more day to day involvement whilst Isabela has a lassiez faire approach.

 

Yeah but Isabella is less invested in the issue of mages and templars because she's much less interested in the fate of Kirkwall than Aveline.



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Well, either they cannot exist in significant number and the number of them in-game is significantly higher than the number they were in canon, or abominations are generally not all that powerful to begin with... or all PCs and companions are superpowered beyond any hope of reasonable explanation (except when fighting ordinary people, at which point they downgrade again).

 

The last one is the standard video game convention, so why not?

 

In first person shooters, you usually take more bullets than the rest. In puzzle games, your solving of puzzles is considered more impressive than the computer's and NPCs. In adventure games, you hit harder and take more hits than the enemies.



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If I may be so bold, how do you define "evil", Qistina?



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Ruining cremation urns is hardly a noble feat, but also hardly a grevious injury warranting the label of evil. Especially by modern societies conventions, where it would be a severely tasteless but ultimately non-harmful crime, rather than a severe atrocity.

 

Or such says common sense, which typically reserves greater labels for greater crimes with greater harms.



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Yeah, like when the Arishok tossed the viscount's head at my feet. Very respectful.



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The Viscount was unworthy of respect, he can't rule his own city



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This is silly. Defiling enemy remains is subjectively evil. Nothing more nothing less.



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This is silly. Defiling enemy remains is subjectively evil. Nothing more nothing less.

 

How is it "evil"

 

You can't be evil to a rock


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How is it "evil"

 

You can't be evil to a rock

Many religions / cultures find desecration of the dead to be an evil thing; knowing that and doing so means that you are doing an evil act against that person.



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Many religions / cultures find desecration of the dead to be an evil thing; knowing that and doing so means that you are doing an evil act against that person.

 

Meh, I guess I just don't see what happens to a body after the person is dead as particularly important


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#412
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Unsanitary.


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Meh, I guess I just don't see what happens to a body after the person is dead as particularly important

Sounds like what the Qunari think.



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Yes, it is evil to you Qistina. You've been emphatic.



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i see...so what is your view about necrophilia?

 

You don't mind your family remain got jeezed by some drunkard at the cemetery?

 

I mean beyond it being incredibly gross due to the fact that dead bodies are decomposing and such.....

 

its also just pretty weird



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Disturbing the dead is evil, inherently evil, even if the dead is your enemy

 

I have watched videos and photos of what happen to the remain of Mujahideen done by US soldiers...

 

Now i see why....

 

Americans seem to have a history with that. And before that, Native Americans did too. At least the tribes that scalped their enemies.

 

Strangely, in the West, the white Americans turned that brutality on to the natives, and scalped them back. One soldier actually used to make trinkets out of their parts. He even made "tobacco pouches" out of men's scrotums. Can you believe that?

 

Anyways.. Not sure what my point is. Most people are fucked up. And have been fucked up for ages.



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I would say that disrespecting corpses is not behavior I would encourage or condone, but I hesitate to call it evil



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Americans seem to have a history with that. And before that, Native Americans did too. At least the tribes that scalped their enemies.

 

Strangely, in the West, the white Americans turned that brutality on to the natives, and scalped them back. One soldier actually used to make trinkets out of their parts. He even made "tobacco pouches" out of men's scrotums. Can you believe that?

 

Anyways.. Not sure what my point is. Most people are fucked up. And have been fucked up for ages.

 

Americans and Japanese soldiers in WW2 took body parts as trophies or put them on tanks and such



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I would say that disrespecting corpses is not behavior I would encourage or condone, but I hesitate to call it evil

 

Perhaps I wouldn't call it "evil" either per se. It's just as I said: Fucked up. lol. I suppose that's a different category than "evil".



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Well...this has certainly drifted from the topic.  :blink:


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#421
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Lady Isolde's accent is objectively evil



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Lady Isolde's accent is objectively evil

 

Agreed

 

10/10

 

 

Would sacrifice her in a blood ritual



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I think i have enough...

 

i pray that my country is safe from your kind of peoples...for if i have to meet you guys in battle and die...please be kind enough to bury my body or just leave my body alone....

 

If it makes you feel better, I wouldn't want to be in "battle" with you to begin with. 9 times out of 10, war is retarded. Let alone doing things to people's corpses.



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I think i have enough...

 

i pray that my country is safe from your kind of peoples...for if i have to meet you guys in battle and die...please be kind enough to bury my body or just leave my body alone....

That's not insulting at all, is it? You know we all aren't like what one person is, right? Assuming otherwise is tantamount to racism.


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#425
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Someone doesn't have to regard something as evil, not to do it... Just because mutilating a corpse isn't considered "evil" by some, doesn't mean they would do it, or even condone it.


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