I don't want to tread on Sian's toes or DaeJi's toes, but I thought I'd throw up a group thread to get us started.
For those who are unaware, FFTL came into existence between ME and ME2 and was intended to make the case for the inclusion of s/s content.
That may be in the past but inclusion - and how inclusion is handled - remains an issue.
So tell us what you want this group to be and what you want this group to talk about.
Or just say hi. That's fine too. 
Thanks for makin' this thread. 
And I have no toes to step on. As far as I'm concerned this group is co-owned by you, me, and DaeJi. If he accepts the invite, I'll make him a moderator also. 
Well, let's hope this group goes more smoothly than my last one.
Well, you were in the FFTL group on the old boards. And that went smoothly enough.
Okay, the first group I recognize from the old BSN ... so far.
And it's using forum software that's known and tested? Gee, wonder who thought of _that_?
Anyways, I was so inactive except in LDG for a few months, but ... here I am. The party can begin as soon as I find a profile pic... 
Hi all!
Good to see the group made the jump from oBSN to nBSN. Here's to hoping it's a bit more active than the old one was of late.
Hi all!
Good to see the group made the jump from oBSN to nBSN. Here's to hoping it's a bit more active than the old one was of late.
I hope so too!
DA:I info could well help on that front.
Any and all suggestions for the new FFTL are welcome.
I personally would be intrigued by an in-depth case study on the correlation between templar support and bigotry toward IRL groups... but I won't hijack this group.
Xil, if you want to create a thread for that then please do. It sounds intriguing. One thread is hardly hijacking the group, hon.
Ah... Sian? Members can create threads? Right?
I can't find anything that toggles whether members can post threads or not, this is a whole new ball of wax for me, I'm not finding the interface very intuitive. We need a custom photo too, and I can't figure out where to change it. "Canny, are you able to do anything? I think your mod privileges let you do anything I can do. Can a non-mod member try to create a new discussion? If the site isn't allowing it, I need to do some more research as to how to turn that feature on.
I'm pretty sure anyone can post threads. But I don't think I have the same privileges as you, Sian. I can't go into 'Group CP' on the main page.
If you go into 'Group CP' and click the 'Ranks' tab and then click 'edit' by Moderator you can choose what abilities you want me to have and not have. You can do the same for everyone else under Member, of course.
The interface is the very antithesis of user-friendly or intuitive though. Completely agree.
And, so far as I can discern, there is no facility for groups to have individual logos/avis. Which is both ridiculous and full of suck. But seems to be the case.
I visited that article. WORTH for this sentence that amused me to no end. 'every man in Thedas is gay and wants my man-meat'. David Gaider amuses me.
I have to say, I think it was worth posting for the fact that they're talking about this at all.
Hi, folks! *waves*
Just to add an opinion, I think that BioWare's already on a track that's going to help lead other developers. And I'm cheering them on. As to comments that 'every follower is gay.', I have an issue with those presumptions, and that is the fact that NONE of them are, unless you decide to pursue that branch of a relationship. To date, in most games, it is presumed that everyone is hetero, and so many gamers have been left out.
I'm just glad BioWare allows us the option to do just that, so we aren't left out of the fold.
My two coppers.
~ Roxy
Made some changes to the group front end. That makes us a little bit more presentable, imo.
Just wanted to share something personal. A few days ago as you probably all know BioWare released a graphic trailer for DAI. Now I'm semi-active semi-lurker on the twitter thread for DAI, and like almost everyone there I was pretty pumped and excited about the upcoming surprise BW had planned (we didn't know what was coming at the time), and then I saw the clip and it was so.... breathtakingly beautiful, and I was so elated, and there was some sense of camaraderie in the posts and the thread, and the anticipation. And then, literally within seconds of the video appearing on YouTube, the comments were filled with homophobic slurs and anti-gay sentiment. Now I know it's silly to take that personally, and I know it's idiotic to give a **** about those idiots, but at that moment, I felt like a balloon that had suddenly had all of its air sucked out, lying useless on the floor.
I think I know what you mean. I've got to a point where I never read comments. Not on anything. Because I don't see the point of letting myself be depressed by the woeful levels of stupidity.
Which is wrong, really. That shouldn't be the case.
But if these people can hurt you then they've achieved their objective. And I'd sooner blank it than give them the satisfaction.
So this has nothing to do with anything but the writer of that IGN article, Luke Karmali, is hella cute. And British.
But anyway. I know what you mean. I read an article on Gamespot about that Ubisoft interview about gay protagonists and many of the comments were along the lines of "Why is Gamespot covering this? I thought this site was family friendly!" One person actually wanted to sue Gamespot because it teaches kids that being gay is normal. They even compared gay content to alcohol and prostitutes.. It's absolutely ridiculous to me and it pissed me off.
BUT! Then I realized that the gaming industry is basically saying "Forget these guys! We're gonna do it anyway!" And that gives me hope! Already we've seen games with strong gay characters and we're only going to see more! Companies like Bioware, Naughty Dog, and Rockstar are leading the charge on these issues and I look forward to the future!
I truly think that these gamers are a minority and I think Kotaku's response to the theory it would affect sales is great:
[They] are thinking of the sales having a major, playable gay character would cost them.
What's wrong with thinking of the sales it would create for them?
One person actually wanted to sue Gamespot because it teaches kids that being gay is normal. They even compared gay content to alcohol and prostitutes.. It's absolutely ridiculous to me and it pissed me off.
That's nothing. One of the provocation tactics the old anti-s/s crowd used to employ was to put homosexuality in the same camp as bestiality, incest and paedophilia. Those conversations were always sooo much fun.
[They] are thinking of the sales having a major, playable gay character would cost them.
What's wrong with thinking of the sales it would create for them?
Made some changes to the group front end. That makes us a little bit more presentable, imo.
Nice! Likin' what you've done with the place.
Nice! Likin' what you've done with the place.
New blinds, a little paint, a few pictures... works wonders.
I still wish you'd let me install the planters, though.
That's nothing. One of the provocation tactics the old anti-s/s crowd used to employ was to put homosexuality in the same camp as bestiality, incest and paedophilia. Those conversations were always sooo much fun.
I can't even imagine the logic behind these arguments... I really hope with this new forum that those extremes won't show up anymore. Or at least be considered legitimate.
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