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[Face of Darkness]

Walks round the corner, health gated in 1 second. On Gold.

 

In fairness, there were 2 nemesis and 3 more mooks in that area. Not really surprising and I'd expect similar results on console/30 fps

[BridgeBurner]

In fairness, there were 2 nemesis and 3 more mooks in that area. Not really surprising and I'd expect similar results on console/30 fps

I took one nemesis bullet and there were 2 assault troopers shooting at me; the benefits of recording at 60fps or higher is you can go back through the video and compare bullet tracers : damage taken and work out exactly what hit you, or you can use the in game console for direct damage readouts if you run player pawn status requests.

 

And no you don't get similar results on console, because the AI's target recognition time is far longer, therefore to take any substantial damage you'd be talking 4-5 seconds longer due to the interp stat being stuck at 20, translating into average of 5 seconds for location based target recognition at 30fps.

 

Of course, feel free to show me the video footage of the console AI behaving similarly. Go on. I'm waiting.

[nukembaby]

Hunter Mode is better than Scanner though, and you said you're straining it with the Scanner.

Because don't forget, Hunter Mode - as opposed to the Geth Scanner - also allows you to carry Armored Compartments.

HM has a 50% shield penalty and is restricted to Geth characters (and I personally can't tolerate the visuals whereas GS is much better).

 

Let's not even get into AC, I don't understand what BW was thinking about that one.

[nukembaby]

I took one nemesis bullet and there were 2 assault troopers shooting at me; the benefits of recording at 60fps or higher is you can go back through the video and compare bullet tracers : damage taken and work out exactly what hit you, or you can use the in game console for direct damage readouts if you run player pawn status requests.

 

And no you don't get similar results on console, because the AI's target recognition time is far longer, therefore to take any substantial damage you'd be talking 4-5 seconds longer due to the interp stat being stuck at 20, translating into average of 5 seconds for location based target recognition at 30fps.

 

Of course, feel free to show me the video footage of the console AI behaving similarly. Go on. I'm waiting.

Say that I accept that PC is harder than console. Console still wins for me because you can never be quite sure a player on PC hasn't hacked the game. Thus I tend to trust solo vids posted by console gamers more.

[BridgeBurner]

Say that I accept that PC is harder than console. Console still wins for me because you can never be quite sure a player on PC hasn't hacked the game. Thus I tend to trust solo vids posted by console gamers more.

 

 

Yes, the "OMG HACKS" argument. Because its completely logical to assume that every PC player is "hacking" or "cheating" until confirmed otherwise, instead of assuming they are not until confirmed that they are.

 

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

[nukembaby]

On the internetz of course, don't trust anybody.

[nukembaby]

 

 

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

In matters of life and death, yes. In matters of e-peen/boob, nope.

[Caineghis2500]

30 fps...

13:33 and 13:40, dem super deadly AI

Must be nice not needing to use ops packs when the enemy doesn't shoot at you for 4-5 seconds if you're moving...



Another reason why I'll only look for "impressive solos"(PC) before Cain's channel or any other console soloer's vids, at 30fps you literally get away with murder.

Walks round the corner, health gated in 1 second. On Gold.

FIXED

You can't cherry pick who to talk down to when console solo's are concerned. Just be glad nobody else bothered to bash you for it.

[Caineghis2500]

 
Yes, the "OMG HACKS" argument. Because its completely logical to assume that every PC player is "hacking" or "cheating" until confirmed otherwise, instead of assuming they are not until confirmed that they are.
 
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Like it or not, that reputation is deserved.

[Moby]

How 'bout we all agree that PC players are the best and BridgeBurner is the bestest and console players aren't even playing the game properly and have no clue what Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer really is and are all scrubs and should all make a little shrine in the bedrooms to PC superiority and bow to said shrine every morning and night while whispering a short prayer thanking them for attempting to uplift console players despite the naysayers and atheist pigs?

Eh?

[Face of Darkness]

I took one nemesis bullet and there were 2 assault troopers shooting at me; the benefits of recording at 60fps or higher is you can go back through the video and compare bullet tracers : damage taken and work out exactly what hit you, or you can use the in game console for direct damage readouts if you run player pawn status requests.

 

And no you don't get similar results on console, because the AI's target recognition time is far longer, therefore to take any substantial damage you'd be talking 4-5 seconds longer due to the interp stat being stuck at 20, translating into average of 5 seconds for location based target recognition at 30fps.

 

Of course, feel free to show me the video footage of the console AI behaving similarly. Go on. I'm waiting.

 

You're absolutely kidding yourself if you think its 4-5 seconds longer, not everything waits for perfect shots like a Ravager. Unfortunately I'm not hardcore enough to record my solos or I'd show you the situations where I've been pretty much instakilled the moment I left softcover with full health

 

The game is tough regardless of platform. If you feel strongly enough about some sort of PC elite master race, good for you, I'm glad you find your accomplishments more satisfying. But don't pretend that every enemy is waiting 5 seconds to line up a shot just bc lol console

[Zyzimorph]

On the internetz of course, don't trust anybody.

I'm not really sure if you're serious or not, but the whole "can't trust any PC solo" thing is completely ridiculous. Just because a few people like Link have been caught red handed doesn't mean you should instantly be suspicious of every PC solo. A while ago Feneckus said that Link would create a bad reputation for PC players, and his words could not be more true. Even when people like Annomander were up front about the mods they used, everyone was still butthurt. It's gotten to the point where it's just petty and pathetic.

The reputation and the way that you are viewed by people is not "deserved" by the actions of a couple of people. YeahYeah console war blah blah blah :/

[Caineghis2500]

I'm not really sure if you're serious or not, but the whole "can't trust any PC solo" thing is completely ridiculous. Just because a few people like Link have been caught red handed doesn't mean you should instantly be suspicious of every PC solo. A while ago Feneckus said that Link would create a bad reputation for PC players, and his words could not be more true. Even when people like Annomander were up front about the mods they used, everyone was still butthurt. It's gotten to the point where it's just petty and pathetic.

The reputation and the way that you are viewed by people is not "deserved" by the actions of a couple of people. YeahYeah console war blah blah blah :/

I don't care that PC players hack or mod, so long as it's for fun and not to break speedrun records and call them legit then create groups called sub 7,13 yolo swag. Link was a disaster. Jay Aimboxtatron was a hush hush situation. There's many more but I'll hold my peace for now.

 

EDIT.. Didn't see the mod's post prior to my reply

[BridgeBurner]

Like it or not, that reputation is deserved.

 

Missile glitchers exist on console, therefore every console player is missile glitching.

 

See Cain? Your own "logic" doesn't look so good when you actually think it through.

[Deerber]

 Even when people like Annomander were up front about the mods they used, everyone was still butthurt.

 

Hey now... I was the first one being up front on that! Why does everyone mention Anno and not me!?

[Deerber]

Missile glitchers exist on console, therefore every console player is missile glitching.

 

See Cain? Your own "logic" doesn't look so good when you actually think it through.

 

Well, yeah... Except that in Cannabineghis' case that twisted logic would actually work 

[Zyzimorph]

Hey now... I was the first one being up front on that! Why does everyone mention Anno and not me!?

I don't think you had a 20+ page flame war, maybe that has something to do with it.

Also Cain, the sub 7 Jade Run was completely legit so I don't know where you're going with that.

[Manbearpig]

Let's get back on topic so we can keep this thread open. Thank you.

I imagine you must feel like a kindergarten teacher sometimes, Mr John Kimble.

On topic: Maybe we should just seperate all platforms and determine the most impressive on each.

[BridgeBurner]

Well, yeah... Except that in Cannabineghis' case that twisted logic would actually work 

Because 150 possessed abominations.

 

[Face of Darkness]

Also Cain, the sub 7 Jade Run was completely legit so I don't know where you're going with that.

 

sub 7 jade run, WAT? link plz

[Caineghis2500]

Missile glitchers exist on console, therefore every console player is missile glitching.

 

See Cain? Your own "logic" doesn't look so good when you actually think it through.

I care not that we have a missile glitching rep. I've never denied, tried to dismiss or justify it. I was reffering to soloing - in which your argument is weak

[Heldarion]

Hey now... I was the first one being up front on that! Why does everyone mention Anno and not me!?

Now you're just being butthurt

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

sub 7 jade run, WAT? link plz

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