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Parallels between Warhammer 40k and Dragon Age


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#126
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Okay, give me a quote from WOT. And WOT can't be retconned because?

 

WOT is god canon write by the folks who write the Lore?

 

If it's later contradicted by a future version that's different then it contradicting a codex from in game.

 

And i just finished writing out broad points from the book it self! Did you not read them?



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WOT is god canon write by the folks who write the Lore?

 

If it's later contradicted by a future version that's different then it contradicting a codex from in game.

 

And i just finished writing out broad points from the book it self! Did you not read them?

Do you have a WOT quote that directly refutes codex or not? Specifically this codex passage.

 

The war drained the resources of every nation in Thedas, leaving most on the brink of collapse. For the giants, it did not appear to be the damage to their armada or the loss of their soldiers, but the terrible toll upon the Rivaini population that prompted their retreat. When the Third New Exalted March had all but massacred the people of Kont-aar without even chipping the Qunari occupying force, the giants finally withdrew.



#128
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And you know that exactly from what? 

 

So many were slain at Marnas Pell, on both sides, that the Veil is said to be permanently sundered, the ruins still plagued by restless corpses. But each year, the Chantry pushed further and further into the Qunari lines, although local converts to the Qun proved difficult to return to Andraste's teachings. By the end of the Storm Age, the Qunari were truly pushed back.

 

Thus the Armada was formed. The pirates brought their knowledge of stealth and trickery to bear, plaguing Qunari supply lines and even launching seaborne invasions against the Qunari coast

 

The Felicisima Armada takes Estwatch following a massive naval battle with the Qunari

 

The period when the Qunari controlled Kirkwall was at least brief. four years after the occupation, Orlesian forces entered the city and took it back.

 

(last two from WoT)



#129
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The Felicisima Armada takes Estwatch following a massive naval battle with the Qunari

 

The period when the Qunari controlled Kirkwall was at least brief. four years after the occupation, Orlesian forces entered the city and took it back.

 

(last two from WoT)

 

It's important to note when using this quote that "the Qunari occupying force" is specifically referring to the occupying force in the Kont-aar. The armies they sent further south certainly received more than just a good chipping, and this is confirmed in the codex.

 

And how it is relevant to the Third New Exalted March? I fail to see how you draw your conclusion.



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*snip*

 

No one is saying that DA took directly from WH40k... there are similarities, But thats about it, In fact you can even say WH40k took from Tokien, considering Eldar and space elves, and there was at a time a race of Drawves.. I think they where called Squats... I think.... Ogrens are Orgers. Which then Tokien took from old tales of I think the Norwegen/Germanic folk lore.

 

The same with Ars Magica, (I have only seen the rulebook not much on the lore as of yet... finding the books have been rather hard as of late.)



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And how it is relevant to the Third New Exalted March? I fail to see how you draw your conclusion.

 

Because everything I listed occurred during said Exalted March?



#132
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This is the very reasoning i wanted this subject taken to a pm.

 

It just keeps going on and on, despite the lore clearly indicating everything i said to be true.



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Well... If someone was to make a Warhammer game on the scope of Skyrim/DA:I ect. wow... that would be amazing. The Dark version of Mass Effect?

 

But both of these titles borrow alot of themes from other titles.

 

Example for Warhammer, Psykers are able to bend and warp timespace with their minds an idea first presented by Frank Herberts "Dune".

 

In Dune "The Spacing Guild" would ingest large quantities of spice in order too use there mathematical skills to bend time and space to move through the universe.

 

Although I'll be honest that is one particular reason I like them, Especially Warhammer universe, its a blend - a melange(hehe) if you will of all these great ideas and stories out there. 



#134
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Because everything I listed occurred during said Exalted March?

Do you have a timeline?



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This is the very reasoning i wanted this subject taken to a pm.

 

It just keeps going on and on, despite the lore clearly indicating everything i said to be true.

So you don't have a quote from WOT.



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So you don't have a quote from WOT.

 

I include brief summaries from the passages detailing the Qunari Wars.

 

Can Provide Page numbers if you like.

 

Don't see what a Quote will prove over a the very lore written into the book.



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You know what would be cool? A crossover.

 

Could you imagine how the mage rebellion would go if they had to deal with 40K templars?

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Shortest rebellion in history.



#138
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We shall see.

 

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#139
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I don't think the mages of Thedas has access to power armour... Baseless speculation on my part, but still.....

 

(Either way the comparison is stupid.. Mages of Thedas are a fine tad more similar to the WFB mages than the W40K psykers)



#140
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Given that the Thousand Sons were basicely turned into mindless automatons (with a few exceptions) due to their psykery I'd say that a bad example.



#141
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Given that the Thousand Sons were basicely turned into mindless automatons (with a few exceptions) due to their psykery I'd say that a bad example.

Ah, but it was the psykers who only became more powerful. And it wasn't psykery anyway, it was Tzeentch's machinations.



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It was Ahriman's Crucible that did it. Tzeentch was not entirely pleased, nor was Magnus the Red.



#143
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No, it was the result of the super-spell the Sorcerers attempted to cast to solve their "affliction".

 

 

"The Thousand Sons were the XV Legion of the original twenty Space Marine Legions. Their Primarch is Magnus, often called Magnus the Red. The Legion turned traitor during the Horus Heresy, after which it relocated to the Planet of Sorcerers in the Eye of Terror and dedicated itself to the Chaos God of change, sorcery and magic, Tzeentch. For a time it appeared that Tzeentch protected the Thousand Sons from the corruption and fragmentation that most of the other Traitor Legions underwent, but eventually the Legion went through a crisis of mutation and de-evolution, seemingly at the wish of their patron-God. Aghast at this development, their chief sorcerer, Ahriman, cast a powerful spell designed to render the Thousand Sons immune to the warping effects of Chaos. While the spell succeeded in this goal, it had an unforseen consequence of transforming the mutated Thousand Sons into little more than mystically animated suits of armour barely capable of being termed as anything more sentient than automata.[1a]

With the only surviving cognisant members being those incredibly strong in heretical psychic powers, the Thousand Sons are now a legion of ghosts led by the damned."



#144
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It was Ahriman's Crucible that did it. Tzeentch was not entirely pleased, nor was Magnus the Red.

But that was only necessary because of crippling mutations that were arising due to Tzeentch's machinations.



#145
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Indeed, but Tzeentch had apparently hoped for a different outcome, and Magnus certainly so.