.. if shepard does indeed die on the citadel in the destroy ending (I.e. breath scene is the last moments) Liara can't rescue the body for Miranda to Lazarus again?
Is there any reason why...
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 02:06
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Cost and resources are probably the big problems.
Cerberus put a lot of money into rebuilding Shepard. Between him and the SR-2, they nearly broke the bank.
Access to trained personnel and adequate facilities may also be an issue, depending on the state of the galaxy post ME3. We also don't know how many of the Cerberus records from the first Lazarus project still exist, if there are perhaps complications with bringing someone back from the dead twice, etc.
None of these problems seem totally prohibitive, though.
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 02:13
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Why T'soni?
Why not have Ashley, Kaidan, Javik, James, Steve, Samantha, Garrus or Tali retrieve the body?
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 02:20
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Redoing Lazurus should be pretty straightforward if Miranda is still alive.
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 02:31
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Considering how the galaxy is a complete mess with looming political and humanitarian crises, Lazarus 2.0 seems a pretty amoral use of money and resources. I know it's Shepard, but they're still only one person.
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 02:47
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Oh god,..
If Shepard did indeed die, let the poor bastard rest already. As much as I would like to see him finally retire with some modicum of happiness(or at the very least at peace), I acknowledge that it may not be possible(the breath scene is pretty ambiguous, I'm left to head-canon the rest).
Besides, I would hope that Liara would be able to finally let him go(waiting for the inevitable "don't be naive" comments...).
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 03:47
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Should it really be Shepards last breath (which seems to be a ridiciously far fetched assumption in my eyes), then the galaxy has more pressing matters to deal with post-destroy than wasting billions of dollars to revive her/him again.
I highly dobt that anyone would invest in it while the relays and the citadel need to be repaired and most of the inhabited planets lie in ruins.
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 04:03
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I dunno. What happens when space magicks collide?
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 04:10
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Well considering ME3's destroy ending is open to interpretation and that we don't know for sure. I would say it's completely up to you what happens. I like to think Shepard did survive and was picked up by one of many fleet ships in the area after the battle.
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 04:17
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Why T'soni?
Why not have Ashley, Kaidan, Javik, James, Steve, Samantha, Garrus or Tali retrieve the body?
Just to annoy you
but mainly because I was drawing reference to the previous occurrence (where they didn't do it for various reasons).It got me thinking of a possible bioware development they could pursue if they wanted to.
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 04:30
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Just to annoy you
It got me thinking of a possible bioware development they could pursue if they wanted to.
Having her slimey hands on Shepard once is enough. I would prefer a low ems(1750 - 1900) where T'soni is dead 
and the Normandy crew gives Shepard to Miranda so she can bring Shepard back
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 05:14
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Wasn't the Lazarus Project technology based on Reaper tech? Anyway, I doubt anyone would spend the money after the war...and unless there is some better explanation of how the Lazarus Project worked, I don't think resurrection should be used in the ME universe again. I prefer to think that Shepard survives that scene.
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 05:35
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You could always revive Shep as a cyborg. The galaxy could always need a cyborg ninja or a cyborg peace keeper.
He could be named RoboShep, Gray Shepard or the Shepinator.
He could be named RoboShep, Gray Shepard or the Shepinator.
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 05:56
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Well Liara obviously still can't let go of Shepard. So the Normandy lifts off Planet WTF in record time because Liara's cracking the whip to get them back to Earth, because you know you only have a few months before the brain death actually sets in, regardless of how mangled the body is. The resources will come from her blackmailing everyone that's still left in the galaxy and threatening to flay them with her mind. Oh and this time she'll be able to sleep by the pod every night and possibly meld with it to make sure he comes out just right.
Not to mention that she's not going to let him off the hook for the baby she totally conceived during that whole memory transfer thing. Protagonist for ME4. Called it.
Problem?
And now for a bit of seriousness: I don't think logs or lack of info would be a problem. EDI was part of the Lazarus cell. It's possible she still has a full account of it.
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 06:54
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... why some OPs need to create cliffhanger thread titles?
Dunno. Beats the hell outta me.
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 07:10
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Well Liara obviously still can't let go of Shepard. So the Normandy lifts off Planent WTF in record time because Liara's cracking the whip to get them back to Earth, because you know you only have a few months before the brain death actually sets in, regardless of how mangled the body is. The resources will come from her blackmailing everyone that's still left in the galaxy and threatening to flay them with her mind. Oh and this time she'll be able to sleep by the pod every night and possibly meld with it to make sure he comes out just right.
Not to mention that she's not going to let him off the hook for the baby she totally conceived during that whole memory transfer thing. Protagonist for ME4. Called it.
Problem?
And now for a bit of seriousness: I don't think logs or lack of info would be a problem. EDI was part of the Lazarus cell. It's possible she still has a full account of it.
Oh, the hate that people will spew on this board if that actually happens in ME4. It would be almost as amusing if Bioware made synthesis the canon ending.
Heh,
*a few days after Shepard wakes up from the pod*
Shep- Liara, we need to talk about your obsession with me. It's nice to be alive, don't get me wrong, but you do know that I my body will eventually degrade to the point where you can't resurrect me right?
Liara- Don't be foolish. With the advances in cybernetics, we can effectively eliminate that problem.
Shepard- What if I die from a horrible accident and my body is non-recoverable?
Liara- Then there's also cloning technology, even the possibility of awakening your original memories within the clone. Besides, we mind melded before remember? If all else fails, I can transfer your memories to the clone. You'll never leave my side, doesn't that make you happy?
Shepard- Uh....Yeah, sure. I'll have plenty of alcohol though right?
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 07:14
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... why some OPs need to create cliffhanger thread titles?
Dunno. Beats the hell outta me.
Because writing the whole thing as the title would be too long? And I couldn't really think of a snappier way to put it in the 5 seconds I thought of it and left to go shopping for chorizo, chicken and potatoes which I am cooking right now.
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 07:27
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If shepard is alive after that then great, but not if he has to be rebuilt again. I mean come on, after all that he probably has more cybernetics than actual flesh. Its into the creepy territory now. Even in ME2-3 there was quite a question of HOW they actually revived him. After all he was quite dead.
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 07:32
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A sort of variation on that spanish recipe, yes. Bit of a favourite on our place.
#21
Posté 01 mars 2014 - 09:04
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In theory, it shouldn't be too hard for them to bring Shepard back again. All they need is knowledge of the Lazarus project, whether from records or Miranda, and I'm sure Liara as the new Shadow Broker could come up with the funds somehow.
But I just can't let my Shepards die unless I know they'll be brought back to life in the next few minutes.
Not to mention that she's not going to let him off the hook for the baby she totally conceived during that whole memory transfer thing. Protagonist for ME4. Called it.
It's a good thing my Shepard refused then. 
#22
Posté 01 mars 2014 - 09:16
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Well, let's see...
The Citadel is blown to pieces... Shepard in there+Explosions= Body Part's Bang Bang
The Reaper Threat is gone... Bring back Shepard again for what? So he can retire? 
. Now that is something I want to see...
#23
Posté 01 mars 2014 - 09:29
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It's a good thing my Shepard refused then.
In that case, she makes everyone go even faster because Shepard can't refuse if he's unconscious.... 
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 09:37
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In that case, she makes everyone go even faster because Shepard can't refuse if he's unconscious....
Good thing that Shepard is female then? I think Liara would need to mind-meld for that, and a dead Shepard would not have a working mind, but a living Shepard would be strong-willed enough to resist. All right, my FemShep is saved!
But now the already paranoid MaleShep I was eventually going to play next will never want to be imported into ME3. Liara already tried to ninjamance him in ME1.
