I don't agree. If they didn't have grey skin and horns, I'd just think they were tall humans. As I said in some other post, I didn't notice Sten wasn't human until after I was done with my first DAO run.
Lol then you didnt pay much attention to what he said or you're making that up to try and make a point
I don't agree. If they didn't have grey skin and horns, I'd just think they were tall humans. As I said in some other post, I didn't notice Sten wasn't human until after I was done with my first DAO run.
Haha Sten... Yeah fair enough! It's all opinion anyway.
I was referring to this concept art below... The male at least has some unique facial structures whereas the female just looks normal.
What do you mean they were never meant to be non human? They have horns! You may see people of the qunari build but thats body modification through lifting weights, qunari are naturally that large in muscle mass which would seem alien to any group of people without the means to enlarge muscles that drastically
I believe they mean the Qunari weren't meant to be any more non-human than elves or dwarves aside from their alien ideology.
What do you mean they were never meant to be non human? They have horns! You may see people of the qunari build but thats body modification through lifting weights, qunari are naturally that large in muscle mass which would seem alien to any group of people without the means to enlarge muscles that drastically
Not only is this true, but in the setting of Dragon Age, they don't exactly have weightlifting and the like. In that setting, the strongest people you'd run across are probably not even the soldiers, but the blacksmiths and farmers and servants--people who are required to lift heavy weights etc. for a living. Not that the soldiers wouldn't be tough, but they wouldn't be muscled like qunari. Meat wouldn't even be particularly easy to come by, and protein is a must for that kind of muscle.
So yeah--qunari males do not look particularly human, and to a medieval mindset where it would be very difficult to gain that kind of build, they'd look even less human (as would the dwarves).
Yes, and they look like male humans with horns and grey skin. The same way elves look like pointy eared humans and dwarves like short, stocky humans. And I actually prefer it that way.
For you to say that is because we have completely different perspectives lol no point is debating this than.
Ok, cool. Thats personal preference which is fine but saying you fail to understand the interest in making them physically different is narrow minded. Also going a bit deeper here on your point about them having nothing to make them nonhuman, who's to say culture is uniquely human? As far as we know if other animals had the mental capacity of us humans they'd have culture and societies just as we do. I understand that you personally are more interested in humans but for a majority of gamers, we want to see expansions of reality, its the entire point of playing fantasy based games. It defeats the purpose if they were all human in appearance because anyone can walk outside and see that, its nothing new. Seeing a horned race of giants is something intriguing to most, especially considering that they could have dragon ancestry. That intrigue would be gone if they were all just "humans"
I am not arguing against it. I would say that, for example, I liked Starcraft's zerg and protoss. They are very alien (in every sense of the word) species with their own varied cultures. What I don't like is middle grounds. You either make them "human" or you make them truly "alien." ME aliens look alien but act human, and that makes me lose interest in them.
I am totally interested in a race of horned giants with some draconian theme mixed in. But I firmly believe that when creating a fictional race they have to either be "human" or "alien" as per the definitions described above. If you roleplay them, you can no longer consider them the latter, since the point of it is that "alien" races are not suposed to be relatable.
Not only is this true, but in the setting of Dragon Age, they don't exactly have weightlifting and the like. In that setting, the strongest people you'd run across are probably not even the soldiers, but the blacksmiths and farmers and servants--people who are required to lift heavy weights etc. for a living. Not that the soldiers wouldn't be tough, but they wouldn't be muscled like qunari. Meat wouldn't even be particularly easy to come by, and protein is a must for that kind of muscle.
So yeah--qunari males do not look particularly human, and to a medieval mindset where it would be very difficult to gain that kind of build, they'd look even less human (as would the dwarves).
I'd just like to point out that the same could be said for the chiseled abs and pecks of every human male we've seen. People didn't work out in the middle ages, you don't develop that sort of muscle from normal day to day activities.
Not only is this true, but in the setting of Dragon Age, they don't exactly have weightlifting and the like. In that setting, the strongest people you'd run across are probably not even the soldiers, but the blacksmiths and farmers and servants--people who are required to lift heavy weights etc. for a living. Not that the soldiers wouldn't be tough, but they wouldn't be muscled like qunari. Meat wouldn't even be particularly easy to come by, and protein is a must for that kind of muscle.
So yeah--qunari males do not look particularly human, and to a medieval mindset where it would be very difficult to gain that kind of build, they'd look even less human (as would the dwarves).
Exactly at the time anthing above 5'10 was considered large so imagine the gasps of seeing bronze/grey skinned 7ft+ giants walking your way with muscle and strength that would match a gorilla. The medieval mindset would no doubt not consider them human in any way. We're talking the same mindset that questioned whether native americans could breed with Europeans
Lol then you didnt pay much attention to what he said or you're making that up to try and make a point
I just thought qunari were a strange human culture from beyond the sea. Not unlike the imperials, bretons, nords, and redguards are treated as different races in Skyrim.
Among the Qunari?
"There are other ranks/roles in the military hierarchy, as well as females to deal with matters of supply and administration (as that would be a very emasculating thing to do, even when it applies to military matters)."
I just thought qunari were a strange human culture from beyond the sea. Not unlike the imperials, bretons, nords, and redguards are treated as different races in Skyrim.
I did too at first. I didn't catch on that Sten was supposed to be a giant until quite late in the game.
Haha Sten... Yeah fair enough! It's all opinion anyway.
I was referring to this concept art below... The male at least has some unique facial structures whereas the female just looks normal.
Again, I must admit I think those two could be siblings and I see nothing in the male qunari facial structure that is in any way unique or distinctive. Eye of the beholder and all that.
"There are other ranks/roles in the military hierarchy, as well as females to deal with matters of supply and administration (as that would be a very emasculating thing to do, even when it applies to military matters)."
Hm, well then I'd suggest male roles probably exist in the artisan hierarchy as well, strictly in the capacity of physical labor if their aversion to male administration is anything to go by.
I'd just like to point out that the same could be said for the chiseled abs and pecks of every human male we've seen. People didn't work out in the middle ages, you don't develop that sort of muscle from normal day to day activities.
Abs arent gained in the same way, its just a matter of how much fat is between the abdominal's and the skin, as for "pecs" i havent seen anything drastic on males
I'd just like to point out that the same could be said for the chiseled abs and pecks of every human male we've seen. People didn't work out in the middle ages, you don't develop that sort of muscle from normal day to day activities.
This is also true, but you also wouldn't have the ladies looking the way they do either. They wouldn't be the super-busty sort; if they were slim they'd be slim all over. You forget that the ladies are not only very toned in the Dragon Age series, but they also seem quite well endowed. Usually you don't see those two things together unless someone's had surgery to augment her breasts. Yes, it's possible--just not very common.
I suspect there would be at least some who'd be "chiseled," but they would mostly be the athletes of the world--people who tourneyed frequently, foot couriers, etc. People who had enough to eat but had to work to get it, basically. Most people would be on the slim side; the more successful folks would be heavier and softer because, well, if you were noble or rich enough, you basically wouldn't be doing any of your own work. (There were even laws against it for nobility.)
The chiseled, slim, sexy bodies are basically part of the fantasy of it--though sometimes there's a different kind of fantasy going on in some of the designs.
But the point is, hardly anyone has that same build as a qunari male, and perhaps the females should be bulked up to match if that's a defining feature of their race. I really doubt that the women would be so slender and delicate in comparison, especially since we know that many of them do a lot of hard physical labor.
Lol then you didnt pay much attention to what he said or you're making that up to try and make a point
Same thing happened to me. There was nothing "not human" about Sten in DA:O. I had always just thought that the Qunari and the Qun were a belief system held by some humans. Sten's skin color didn't really look all that "metallic" or even gray and his only outstanding characteristic was his height, so I easily mistook him for a human with a different belief system than the people in Thedas. In fact, I think I only realized that the Qunari were an entirely different race in one of my very late playthroughs or when DA2 was coming out.
I generally don't like the idea of me personally playing a Qunari, but with the look of the female Qunari concept art, I may change my mind! It won't be my first playthrough (I'm more of a Dalish person myself), but probably the second time through!
Hm, well then I'd suggest male roles probably exist in the artisan hierarchy as well, strictly in the capacity of physical labor if their aversion to male administration is anything to go by.
Same thing happened to me. There was nothing "not human" about Sten in DA:O. I had always just thought that the Qunari and the Qun were a belief system held by some humans. Sten's skin color didn't really look all that "metallic" or even gray and his only outstanding characteristic was his height, so I easily mistook him for a human with a different belief system than the people in Thedas. In fact, I think I only realized that the Qunari were an entirely different race in one of my very late playthroughs or when DA2 was coming out.
I figured him referring to everyone as "humans" was the dead giveaway but its easy to see how that could've been missed
You're asking what the qunari females will look like...while having two pictures of female qunari in your post, from official bioware sources.
This is a special kind of something right there. Like looking at a lake that's clearly frozen over, and asking "I wonder if it'll be cold out on the lake".
Hm, well then I'd suggest male roles probably exist in the artisan hierarchy as well, strictly in the capacity of physical labor if their aversion to male administration is anything to go by.
Smiths, masons and farmers are confirmed as female.
And virtually the only place that isn't gender exclusive is in the priesthood.
This is also true, but you also wouldn't have the ladies looking the way they do either. They wouldn't be the super-busty sort; if they were slim they'd be slim all over. You forget that the ladies are not only very toned in the Dragon Age series, but they also seem quite well endowed. Usually you don't see those two things together unless someone's had surgery to augment her breasts. Yes, it's possible--just not very common.
I suspect there would be at least some who'd be "chiseled," but they would mostly be the athletes of the world--people who tourneyed frequently, foot couriers, etc. People who had enough to eat but had to work to get it, basically. Most people would be on the slim side; the more successful folks would be heavier and softer because, well, if you were noble or rich enough, you basically wouldn't be doing any of your own work. (There were even laws against it for nobility.)
The chiseled, slim, sexy bodies are basically part of the fantasy of it--though sometimes there's a different kind of fantasy going on in some of the designs.
But the point is, hardly anyone has that same build as a qunari male, and perhaps the females should be bulked up to match if that's a defining feature of their race. I really doubt that the women would be so slender and delicate in comparison, especially since we know that many of them do a lot of hard physical labor.
I think you underestimate just how much specific execise it takes to build up the sort of muscle all the males in Dragon Age have. Biceps (The most overrated muscle ever) simply don't get built by most normal physical activities unless your targetting them specifically. Yet every male has well developed, perhaps even bulging biceps.
I just don't see how that's meaningfully different from the Qunari's situation. Their muscle is a matter of asthetic design, because people expect a giant to be quite muscular, especially if their going to be intimidating despite running around shirtless (Which is another issue). I wouldn't read too much into it.
You're asking what the qunari females will look like...while having two pictures of female qunari in your post, from official bioware sources.
This is a special kind of something right there. Like looking at a lake that's clearly frozen over, and asking "I wonder if it'll be cold out on the lake".
Your ignorance pisses me off. Im asking what will they look like in DA:I, if you really think a snippet from a comic, fan art, and 3 year old concept art was going to translate directly to their appearance in the game, then you're not ignorant, just stupid.
You're asking what the qunari females will look like...while having two pictures of female qunari in your post, from official bioware sources.
This is a special kind of something right there. Like looking at a lake that's clearly frozen over, and asking "I wonder if it'll be cold out on the lake".
Maybe there is going to be a volcanic eruption in the lake.
Your ignorance pisses me off. Im asking what will they look like in DA:I, if you really think a snippet from a comic, fan art, and 3 year old concept art was going to translate directly to their appearance in the game, then you're not ignorant, just stupid.
Considering concept artists decide how everything looks in the game, we already have at least two hints of what female qunari will look like:
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http://4.bp.blogspot...I_Surrender.jpg
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