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[Xiaolruc]

I was wondering if someone would be able to help me out, as this is the only instance of a Tech Burst evolution that works (Electric Slash doesn't, as I recall).

 

I would like to know if someone could answer whether Electrical Hammer's Tech Burst boost evolution only applies if the power ITSELF was used to detonate, or if a detonation via Biotic Hammer would also benefit from this.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

EDIT:
OKAY, since I apparently wasn't clear enough in my initial post, I'll rephrase:

If I prime an enemy with Electric Hammer's Fire evolution, for example, and detonate it with Biotic Hammer: will I still receive the Tech Burst bonus from Electric Hammer's 6a evolution, or does it only apply if Electric Hammer is used as a detonator?

[Argent Xero]

Electric Hammer is Electric Hammer. Biotic Hammer is a totally different power and Electric Hammer's effects don't apply to it.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

Electric Hammer is Electric Hammer. Biotic Hammer is a totally different power and Electric Hammer's effects don't apply to it.

 

Came in expecting to see "Hax!" and left disappointed.

[BIGGLESBY]

You can do it if you believe.

[Excella Gionne]

Electric Hammer... I always say Tech Hammer as that always fitted the name more. I actually really like both, but they are completely different powers. Biotic Hammer will get a damage boost from Electric Hammer's chill effect if spec'd into EH's Rank 5b. I'm currently gonna change my build form 6/6/0/6/6 to a 5/6/6/3/6.

[IVicViperI]

Doing exactly the same build as Excella, although I might spec it differently.

 

I once hated this character, but then I tried using the two hammers together, and it was... fun ?

 

Genuinely impressed.

[Igipopp]

I don't know, with a reegar cheese i don't need the electric hammer. Just drop the shields and barriers with the reegar then hammer the enemy. And i recently found out that slope sync kill bug, so on Giant the krolord is practically invincible on the slope. I headbutted a banshee to death... I know this will get a lots of frowns from bsn, so don't judge me.

[Derpy]

Reegar + Botic Hammer = ded

[MGW7]

If you prime with EH then detonate with BH, yes you will get the bonus as normal, but if EH doesn't prime or detonate it will not effect explosions

[Xiaolruc]

If you prime with EH then detonate with BH, yes you will get the bonus as normal, but if EH doesn't prime or detonate it will not effect explosions

 

THANK YOU!  You're the only person that's actually said something that properly relates to the topic.

Do you have any proof, or are you just stating that because the Electric Hammer evolution states it? 

[Tokenusername]

iirc Biotic Hammer can't detonate tech explosions.

[Derpy]

But biotic hammer is so much better...

[Xiaolruc]

Electric Hammer is Electric Hammer. Biotic Hammer is a totally different power and Electric Hammer's effects don't apply to it.

 

 

That's like saying, for example, a Reave+Warp (or vice versa) Biotic Explosion doesn't benefit from Warp's Detonate evolution. Unless you have facts to back that claim up, I have no reason to believe you.

 

iirc Biotic Hammer can't detonate tech explosions.

 

Biotic Hammer is a universal detonator.

I've made every type of explosion using it, be it from ammo, another person, or Electric Hammer's Rank 5 evolutions.

[Tokenusername]

I tried editing my post, but it won't register. Whatever.

 

Anyway I was trying to say that all combo detonation evos apply to both priming and detonating. Either one will apply the multiplier.

[Xiaolruc]

But biotic hammer is so much better...

 

Did I ask, "which hammer is better?"

 

No. I. Did. Not.

[Xiaolruc]

I tried editing my post, but it won't register. Whatever.

 

Anyway I was trying to say that all combo detonation evos apply to both priming and detonating. Either one will apply the multiplier.

 

Thank you, Token! I had a nagging thought that it SHOULD work, but I wanted to be sure. I've been experimenting with builds that use both Hammer variations, which is why I asked.

 

I've actually found some promise in a 5/6/6/3/6  build, but it's lacking just a tiny bit of the oomph necessary to completely crush enemies on Gold without a Strength Enhancer.

 

If only the Warlord had a few more points to give... Rank 4b on passives is quite potent for Gold, but the points just aren't for it there with this build.

[Excella Gionne]

Although Biotic Hammer is clearly better, Electric Hammer with 4 charges looks like a better hammer!

[Derpy]

Although Biotic Hammer is clearly better, Electric Hammer with 4 charges looks like a better hammer!

But BH OHK things.

[Tokenusername]

I find trying to manage both hammers at the same time is pointless, as they both occupy the same priming slot.

[Xiaolruc]

Although Biotic Hammer is clearly better, Electric Hammer with 4 charges looks like a better hammer!

 

I've run with 4-charge E-Hammer, and it's definitely quite efficient for mooks: set them on fire, get them to panic (if they're organic), then melee away.

 

I'm just trying to see if Rank 6a could make the Warlord a more sufficient self-detonator, mostly.

[Simba501]

I don't know, with a reegar cheese i don't need the electric hammer. Just drop the shields and barriers with the reegar then hammer the enemy. And i recently found out that slope sync kill bug, so on Giant the krolord is practically invincible on the slope. I headbutted a banshee to death... I know this will get a lots of frowns from bsn, so don't judge me.

 

Banshees always seem to teleport to the perfect angle on slopes to grab me.

 

[Xiaolruc]

I find trying to manage both hammers at the same time is pointless, as they both occupy the same priming slot.

 

 

Indeed. It's annoying to swap between Hammers, especially with the cooldowns assigned to them (Tech Armor doesn't help with that, either).

 

But I've been able to kill bosses from approximately (mostly just under) half a full armor bar on Gold with the Strength Enhancer with Electric Hammer's Fire evolution + Biotic Hammer. I was using Tech Armor's Power Synergy evolution at the time. (Keep in mind, I'm still experimenting with it.)

 

I mean if you can have at least one charge with Electric Hammer and be able to prime a boss, switching to biotic hammer and detonating it feels pretty good, not to mention it's a crapton of damage.

 

I keep thinking I'm nearly there, but...

[Tokenusername]

Feel free to spec however you want, but BH can handle most bosses by itself. Nothing survives a 4x Biotic Hammer crushstorm.

[MGW7]

Power synergy is wasted on the warlord, the melee synergy always results in more damage unless you completely forego melee mods, which is absolutely crippling for him, and the SGomniblade is superior to both pistol mods combined, so if going for maximum melee a shotgun is your best option

[crashsuit]

OP, please post your experiences after respeccing. I'm curious how it will work out for you. I've tried builds using both hammers together, but I specced out of Electric Hammer ages ago. In my experiences, it just didn't kill things fast enough for my liking.