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#101
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It's perfectly fine that you feel that way, but saying that something is "the worst thing to ever happen to x" without having tried it is a bit silly.
 

Stop making sense! lol

 

Getting back to the topic. If they fixed the terrible ME2 bugs that would be worth it alone for me lol

 

Though now that I think about it. I think I would want a KotOR HD Edition first. Game is over 10 years old and worthy of an update. ME3 was what? 2 years ago?



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bought ME2 when it released(PS3), bought ME3 when it released including all DLCs, re-bought trilogy when it released. 

 

Would i re-buy ME trilogy? yes, yes i would :D. (needs to have all DLCs included though)



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KOTOR did not have the resonance or fanbase that ME does

 

Also ME is still very much an alive franchise, a trilogy rerelease on next gen could be used to cross promote witht the next ME

 

Also, KOTOR...there would probably be some liscensing issues with Disney, and its really just not worth the hassle. It wouldnt do nearly as well as ME



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KOTOR did not have the resonance or fanbase that ME does

 

Also ME is still very much an alive franchise, a trilogy rerelease on next gen could be used to cross promote witht the next ME

 

Also, KOTOR...there would probably be some liscensing issues with Disney, and its really just not worth the hassle. It wouldnt do nearly as well as ME

Last year Disney gave exclusive star wars video game rights to EA. So that is not really an issue.

 

http://www.polygon.c...xclusive-rights

 

And you are crazy if you think ME is more popular than SW. It is big don't get me wrong. But I have talked to people who obviously know star wars and have never heard of ME (some of them gamers yes)

 

Forget about the popularity of KotOR itself. The game would sell purely on it being a Star Wars title.



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KOTOR did not have the resonance or fanbase that ME does

 

Also ME is still very much an alive franchise, a trilogy rerelease on next gen could be used to cross promote witht the next ME

 

Also, KOTOR...there would probably be some liscensing issues with Disney, and its really just not worth the hassle. It wouldnt do nearly as well as ME

 

It really depends if they want to tread the water of re-releasing in a HD format, for a lot of the older games that get the HD treatment sadly get the "why did I liked this again" because a lot of what made the game fun at that time has been mimicked time and time again.

 

As far as licensing goes I don't think it would be that big of a problem since they released a port to the iOS.



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It really depends if they want to tread the water of re-releasing in a HD format, for a lot of the older games that get the HD treatment sadly get the "why did I liked this again" because a lot of what made the game fun at that time has been mimicked time and time again.

 

As far as licensing goes I don't think it would be that big of a problem since they released a port to the iOS.

I still beat the game once a year and it is still fun everytime. :P

 

But this is off-topic and I don't want to Hijack the thread.



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It really depends if they want to tread the water of re-releasing in a HD format, for a lot of the older games that get the HD treatment sadly get the "why did I liked this again" because a lot of what made the game fun at that time has been mimicked time and time again.

 

As far as licensing goes I don't think it would be that big of a problem since they released a port to the iOS.

If it's done right it actually comes off really well. Like recent Zelda and Mario titles, as well as Halo CE

 

Also it wouldnt be an HD remake, it was already HD. So resources could be spent making it look and play as polished as possible. I would liken it more to Tomb Raider Definitive Edition

 

Finally, a next-gen release with all content could expose people to a franchise they have never touched. For me e.g. if they did this for Uncharted or Resistance I'd jump on, having not had a PS3, but likely getting a PS4.

 

 

 

And to he who said Star Wars is huge - yes but people looking to buy a Star Wars game are not the kind of people wanting to play a 15 year old RPG re-release. Kotor would sell only to the hardest of core



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If it's done right it actually comes off really well. Like recent Zelda and Mario titles, as well as Halo CE

 

Also it wouldnt be an HD remake, it was already HD. So resources could be spent making it look and play as polished as possible. I would liken it more to Tomb Raider Definitive Edition

 

Finally, a next-gen release with all content could expose people to a franchise they have never touched. For me e.g. if they did this for Uncharted or Resistance I'd jump on, having not had a PS3, but likely getting a PS4.

 

 

 

And to he who said Star Wars is huge - yes but people looking to buy a Star Wars game are not the kind of people wanting to play a 15 year old RPG re-release. Kotor would sell only to the hardest of core

 

True enough, but part of the reason why I see games like Mario and Zelda working is that the mechanics behind the games didn't change too much and they don't need to.  With the different Mass Effect games even in this thread there have been people requesting what they want changed in the different Mass Effect games, from the combat in Mass Effect 1 to the ending of Mass Effect 3. I have had that response to Mass Effect 1 when going back to the game with how the combat worked for it was either too easy or just a grind depending on the difficulty, so for me if they updated the game and left the combat alone I might feel the way I described.

 

Of course if they make any changes it could lead to other changes people don't like such as if they did change the combat in Mass Effect 1 they might change the skill and weapon system to something like Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3 or even change the armor system as well.



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And to he who said Star Wars is huge - yes but people looking to buy a Star Wars game are not the kind of people wanting to play a 15 year old RPG re-release. Kotor would sell only to the hardest of core

First its 11 years not 15 :P

I don't think this is true. Alot of people who love Star Wars. Once they see that name. that's all they care about lol. Look at TOR. It's not the even close to being a good MMO. But it is still running strong. Honestly it is pretty terrible. But people still play it because it's Star Wars.

 

Like I said before there are people who will not even care that it's a remake of a 11 year old game(and I am not talking about the kotor fan-base)

Look at Thief. That's 16 years old. And the remake was a hit. 



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First, it wouldnt be released tomorrow. If they announced it tomorrow it would be released probably in 2016 :P

 

TOR isnt a bad game also. It's sitting in the mid 80s on metacritic. Which is higher than the vast majority of releases.

 

Lastly, Theif was not a hit. It's scoring on the low side and sales are not good.



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First, it wouldnt be released tomorrow. If they announced it tomorrow it would be released probably in 2016 :P

 

TOR isnt a bad game also. It's sitting in the mid 80s on metacritic. Which is higher than the vast majority of releases.

 

Lastly, Theif was not a hit. It's scoring on the low side and sales are not good.

I was speaking on sales, not reviews. And it was #1 in sales only to be topped by South Park recently.

 

And if you look at the user scores on metacritic, TOR only gets a 5.8, that's a great score from the community huh?

As far as I'm concerned, what the overall community thinks is all that matters.



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I was speaking on sales, not reviews. And it was #1 in sales only to be topped by South Park recently.

 

And if you look at the user scores on metacritic, TOR only gets a 5.8, that's a great score from the community huh?

As far as I'm concerned, what the overall community thinks is all that matters.

 

I don't trust the "community scores" from metacritic I have seen too many people organize with the intent of downvoting a game regardless if they played it or not, I stopped even using it when they had to issue a release citing they had to remove votes from Mass Effect 3 because of accounts that seem to have broken their terms, so who knows if those reviews can be trusted.



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I don't trust the "community scores" from metacritic I have seen too many people organize with the intent of downvoting a game regardless if they played it or not, I stopped even using it when they had to issue a release citing they had to remove votes from Mass Effect 3 because of accounts that seem to have broken their terms, so who knows if those reviews can be trusted.

I don't trust metacritic at all. I only used it as an example because that was his source. And I don't trust any "Official" reviewers ever it came out that gamespot fired someone for a bad review on a game.



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I don't trust metacritic at all. I only used it as an example because that was his source. And I don't trust any "Official" reviewers ever it came out that gamespot fired someone for a bad review on a game.

 

Ah, my apologies.



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Both the professional scores and user scores are useless. The press has inflated the scores beyond reason and the gamers did the reverse with review bombing



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Though now that I think about it. I think I would want a KotOR HD Edition first. Game is over 10 years old and worthy of an update. ME3 was what? 2 years ago?

 

I bought KOTOR not too long before ME3 came out, so I don't mind the old graphics at all. If they updated the combat and included a real character creator (instead of presets), then I would be interested. 

 

I still want the ME trilogy more though, for all the DLC I never got to play. 



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I would love the ME trilogy honestly. Some things just make sense. Firstly, DRM systems on Xbox Live with ME3 are broken - saves I start online (with the DLC PAID FOR AND ON THE HARD DRIVE) cannot be continued while offline. At all. Even if I havent even reached the normandy/split with Anderson yet. Bring Down The Sky causes the same problem in ME1.

 

Relevance?

 

A re-release on PS4/XB1 would inevitably include all the DLC from the series. I'd pay anywhere between free (duh haha) and $180 for this package. We all know the total for the DLC alone is almost that, not including the actual game discs. Also, with that stuff being ON DISC, I'll never have to worry about my DLC becoming unusable.

 

And finally, some of these HD re-releases just make sense - especially for big successful AAA releases ended near the end of a console cycle. The Last of Us, a huge success considering it's Sony exclusivity, just was announced for PS4. Worst kept secret in the industry. Great for gamers and the publisher who will make a ton of money from people who wanted to play but never had a PS3. Tomb Raider definitive edition is currently, ironically, the best AAA game on Playstation 4 and Xbox One. If GTA5 doesnt get a re-relase on next-gen consoles a la the above to I'd be very surprised. It just makes $$ sense.

 

I hope very much that this happens. But with all DLC....please



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I would love the ME trilogy honestly. Some things just make sense. Firstly, DRM systems on Xbox Live with ME3 are broken - saves I start online (with the DLC PAID FOR AND ON THE HARD DRIVE) cannot be continued while offline. At all. Even if I havent even reached the normandy/split with Anderson yet. Bring Down The Sky causes the same problem in ME1.

 

Relevance?

 

A re-release on PS4/XB1 would inevitably include all the DLC from the series. I'd pay anywhere between free (duh haha) and $180 for this package. We all know the total for the DLC alone is almost that, not including the actual game discs. Also, with that stuff being ON DISC, I'll never have to worry about my DLC becoming unusable.

 

And finally, some of these HD re-releases just make sense - especially for big successful AAA releases ended near the end of a console cycle. The Last of Us, a huge success considering it's Sony exclusivity, just was announced for PS4. Worst kept secret in the industry. Great for gamers and the publisher who will make a ton of money from people who wanted to play but never had a PS3. Tomb Raider definitive edition is currently, ironically, the best AAA game on Playstation 4 and Xbox One. If GTA5 doesnt get a re-relase on next-gen consoles a la the above to I'd be very surprised. It just makes $$ sense.

 

I hope very much that this happens. But with all DLC....please

This pretty much, it would be really good if people who have poor internet connection can get physical copies of the DLC so they have a chance to play it but unfortunately most additional content is done as DLC (which I don't mind if its done right) these days.



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While I think the games look fine in their current state since as far as I have heard there is no backwards compatibility on xbox one and this is a series I have to revisit from time to time I would probably get a next gen version of it.  Of course I still havn't made the upgrade from the 360 to the xbox one yet.  Still plenty of games I enjoy playing on the 360 and nothing new is really grabbing me at the moment where I have to go out and get an xbox one.  I might pick up an Xbox one once DAI comes out.



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I agree that for the most part the games dont look too terrible, especially the latter 2. They hold up well.

 

A remaster for next-gen could fill in, easily and cheaply, gaps in textures and 2D sprites that were limited by archaic system architecture in the 360 and PS3. Also a resolution bump would be relatively simple (compared to actual level design, writing, weapons systems etc. all already assets that exist). Seems like a quick infusion of cashish for Bioware IMO.

 

 

 

Look at it this way - "Mass Effect Trilogy (PS4/XB1): Mass Ennext Fundraiser Edition"



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I think there may be a re-release, but it won't be for many years. With the new IP, Dragon Age, ME4 and now Star Wars, too much stuff is going on at Bioware. By the time they re-release it the hype for will be completely dead with people having moved on to the multitude of next gen games that would be out at the time, because let's be honest, the only reason people want a trilogy re-release is because there is nothing to play on next gen, there will be if/when the re-release comes out. Honestly if I was head of EA I would never sanction this, too high risk for too little gain. 

 

It's time to move on to next gen and leave the old behind. 



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I think there may be a re-release, but it won't be for many years....By the time they re-release it the hype for will be completely dead with people having moved on to the multitude of next gen games that would be out at the time, because let's be honest, the only reason people want a trilogy re-release is because there is nothing to play on next gen, there will be if/when the re-release comes out. Honestly if I was head of EA I would never sanction this, too high risk for too little gain. 

 

 

 

Wouldnt this argument suggest the best time to do it would be sooner than later? It doesnt take years and years to do. Tomb Raider and The Last of Us devs both did it within the year of the original release. It's been 2 since ME3. As the head of EA also I would think it's low risk - the franchise is already successful and there's a vacuum regarding good games on next gen right now



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Porting wouldn't take many years. First of all, the new consoles are very similar and also very PC-like. That certainly the reason why Square Enix ported the PC version of Tomb Raider to the new consoles, and not their respective current-gen counterparts. Porting the PC version of Mass Effect to XB1/PS4 is probably less work than porting The Last of Us from PS3 to PS4, which have completely different architectures.

 

Also, BioWare most likely wouldn't do the ports themselves, so it wouldn't generate them a lot of additional work. The port of ME1 for PS3 was done by Edge of Reality in 6-9 months IIRC.

 

If ME:Next comes out late 2015, there's a good chance we could see a next-gen release of the ME trilogy before that if they start working on it now.



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I'd buy it Day 1. I've been ready to do a replay since ME3 came out and finished. I haven't touched the games in almost two years just to build up, but for the past few months, the only thing stopping me has been hope for a next-gen port announcement. Complete with all DLC in 1080p and PC textures. (Sorry, but 60fps is not my thing. There's a reason they included a motion blur option in ME1. It looks like film, which is an alluring style that I like having. If they do 60fps, I'd like a 30fps lock option and/or motion blur options to maintain that old signature look. I really don't get the appeal of 60fps in most cinematic games, so I prefer options.)



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I think there may be a re-release, but it won't be for many years. With the new IP, Dragon Age, ME4 and now Star Wars, too much stuff is going on at Bioware. By the time they re-release it the hype for will be completely dead with people having moved on to the multitude of next gen games that would be out at the time, because let's be honest, the only reason people want a trilogy re-release is because there is nothing to play on next gen, there will be if/when the re-release comes out. Honestly if I was head of EA I would never sanction this, too high risk for too little gain. 

 

It's time to move on to next gen and leave the old behind. 

 

Ports don't take that long, especially when they have PC/360 counterparts. PS4/XB1 are both not that tricky to port to, hence the ports of The Last of Us and Tomb Raider being done in less than a year. Chances are, they could have a studio get all three done in about a year and they could be out in summer 2015 before an autumn 2015 ME:Next release.