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[Garlador]

It's been awhile since I've been on these forums... but I caught the NeoGaf thread talking about the possibility of a next-gen trilogy release on PS4 and Xbox One after one retailer listed it.

 

First off... ABSOLUTELY. Do it. Please. My poor 360 is failing on me yet again and I'd love to future-proof one of my favorite series for the next decade on the next-generation of consoles.

 

But, well, if such a thing DOES come to pass (fingers crossed), while I would be happy with it existing at all, I think a next-gen re-release on current consoles is a golden opportunity to correct and improve a few things that have always kept the series from being as great as it deserved to be.

 

In no particular order:

1) All games, 1080p, 60 fps. It's no secret the earlier installments of the series had... problems... with a new engine not quite delivering on the potential that was there. I was playing Mass Effect 1 just yesterday and was shocked once the rose-tinted goggles came off at how poorly it was optimized and ran on my 360. Terrible framerate, horrendous amounts of texture pop-in, screen tearing all over the place. I know the following games ran better, but ME1 may remain the most ambitious and expansive game in the series with one of the best central stories. It, and all the other games, deserve to run as smooth as butter. Bioware has a second chance to make that happen.

 

2) ALL DLC included. The series deserves a definitive, complete, comprehensive collection of the whole saga, from beginning to middle to end, with every last bit of DLC included. Every weapon, every costume, every character, every mission. This is ESPECIALLY true towards the end, with ME3. I will forever disagree with Bioware's business decision to segregate some of the most important, interesting, and story-heaven sections and characters of the game off as "optional" DLC. Characters like Javik are too important to the overall lore to be "optional" DLC. "Leviathan" goes a long way towards making the finale of the game make more sense. "Citadel" is the biggest love letter to the whole series a player could possibly get. It all must be included, no matter what the EA overlords think. Plenty of other games have done "complete" collections (I just snagged the whole Elder Scrolls series, all DLC included, for instance); Mass Effect is a series that deserves having all the pages of the story there, with no chapters held back after all is said and done. 

 

3) Improved Interface. This mainly goes for Mass Effect 1 again... but the inventory system of Mass Effect 1 was really, really bad. A few simple tweaks could prevent me from having to dive back into my inventory every five minutes because I hit that 150 item limit. 

 

4) Improved graphics. Texture, lightning, the whole shebang. Mass Effect has ALWAYS looked pretty good, but it's starting to show its age. A quick look at fan mods and fixes shows vast areas that could be dramatically improved on the new consoles. The recent Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition is a good example of taking something that already looked great and pushing it further into a stunning direction using that new power. Mass Effect would benefit a lot from the same approach.

 

5) "Definitive" content. This one is a long shot, but many fans know that, due to some of the 360's limitations and a rushed scheduled, a lot of content was either scrapped or altered. ME2 and ME3 had to be split into 2 discs worth of content, which also prevented several planned missions from being tackled in a different order. PC fans have modded the game to get that content back, but console players are still out of luck. We'll never see Legion show up in the Quarian flotilla or Tali sharing her thoughts on meeting Garrus again or several other possibilities that are all 100% finished and there in the game files... but locked out of the final version due to technical limitations. It would be an incredible opportunity to include everything the team originally wanted but were forced to cut. 

 

EDIT: 6) I forgot one. A big one. HAIR. As great as the series has looked, Mass Effect has always had terrible, TERRIBLE plastic helmet hair. It's been distracting since day 1 and never really improved. I've seen what improved hair physics and shaders can do these days (TressFX galore), and the series could really benefit from having people that don't look like they get their hair from a Lego factory.

 

Granted, a re-release may not happen at all... but I see SO much potential here for a re-release on current systems that I admit I get excited at the thought of a proper release on current-gen systems. It would wrangle in new and older players and pave the way for ME4 as well.

 

Just one fan here, I know, but if Bioware makes it happen, my money is ready for it.

[FROST4584]

I bought the trilogy again on PlayStation 3 like three months, after I sold all my 360 games and system. I am going to be mad if Bioware announces a remaster on next gen system soon. I will buy it again, if it became a option I guess.

[Daemul]

I wouldn't suggest it to people if it didn't have all DLC (it is 2014 .. :S).

 

But other than that, I hope this is legit!

Most likely not, that site has proven to be extremely unreliable. I'll quote my post

 

 

Guys, sorry to burst your bubble, but this isn't true. Look at this crap

 

 

Zmart already "announced" Grand Theft Auto V, Battlefield 4 and Mass Effect 4 on... WiiU!!!

 

[Remix-General Aetius]

would be unnecessary waste of dev time. ME2 and 3 are just fine. ME1 is the one in dire need of a makeover.

[KevinT18]

I hope it happens honestly. I might get it AGAIN, all of it, if ALL DLC is INCLUDED.

 

Otherwise nah. I'd be investing another $200 for the "whole experience". Half a console cost is too much. Too much for old DLC at least

[Savage Baird]

Better include all the DLC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who am I kidding I'm gonna buy it anyway. DLC would be nice though.

[staindgrey]

While this is still unconfirmed and could very well be fake, I will say this on the matter:

 

I will purchase it if ME1 is in some way remade. I love the story and the atmosphere, but the game itself is a frustrating slog. Its inventory system is a mess, its ragdoll physics and Mako controls make combat unnecessarily irritating and, overall, the game shows its age far worse than ME2 and ME3. I've still played through the game a multitude of times, but it's easily my least favorite because of its gameplay. The story is great and the nostalgia is there, but... it's just not that fun to play.

 

If this is simply an HD upgrade, no thank you. I already own the trilogy on two consoles; I don't need a third version of the same thing.

[RainbowDazed]

As I wrote in another thread, I have two wishes for this: 

 

1) Include all the DLC. 

2) Include an option to choose between the original and the extended ending. 

 

Any updates on graphics I'd appreciate, but those are just icing on the cake. 

[KevinT18]

Why wouldnt you want better graphics? I guess ya, icing, but it's pretty much the only thing guaranteed from a next-gen port of these games. Look at Tomb Raider or TLOU, all they're adding is shaders and polygons, not content.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Why wouldnt you want better graphics? I guess ya, icing, but it's pretty much the only thing guaranteed from a next-gen port of these games. Look at Tomb Raider or TLOU, all they're adding is shaders and polygons, not content.

 

For me personally, the graphics don't matter that much. I mean, it's nice if a game has really cool graphics, but I thought they were pretty good in the ME trilogy to begin with, and I still play on SD TVs most of the time anyway. I don't buy the upgraded versions for improved graphics - I want them for the extra content, like DLCs. (I thought TLOU's PS4 edition includes the DLC too?) 

[Drone223]

For me personally, the graphics don't matter that much. I mean, it's nice if a game has really cool graphics, but I thought they were pretty good in the ME trilogy to begin with, and I still play on SD TVs most of the time anyway. I don't buy the upgraded versions for improved graphics - I want them for the extra content, like DLCs. (I thought TLOU's PS4 edition includes the DLC too?) 

Agreed, good graphics are nice and all but I think gameplay and story are the two more important aspects of a game.

 

Gamplay = story > graphics.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Agreed, good graphics are nice and all but I think gameplay and story are the two more important aspects of a game.

 

Gamplay = story > graphics.

Yeah, same here. I would add characters to that list as well. 

[Nitrocuban]

If you wanna sell a game in 2014 it has to look like 2014.

If you don't care about graphics, read a book.

[Iakus]

Yeah, same here. I would add characters to that list as well. 

 

And this is why I replayed the entire Baldur's Gate series just last year.

 

And why I simply don't understand the desire to purchase another copy of the ME trilogy.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

And this is why I replayed the entire Baldur's Gate series just last year.

 

And why I simply don't understand the desire to purchase another copy of the ME trilogy.

And it's why I still play games on my older consoles. 

 

In my case, I want a full trilogy edition for the DLC. My consoles are always offline, so I haven't played any of it. 

[Drone223]

If you wanna sell a game in 2014 it has to look like 2014.

If you don't care about graphics, read a book.

Graphics mean nothing if the story, gameplay etc. are terrible, it will just be a bad game that looks pretty. I'd rather play a good game with average graphics than a bad game with good graphics. 

[CaIIisto]

Graphics mean nothing if the story, gameplay etc. are terrible, it will just be a bad game that looks pretty. I'd rather play a good game with average graphics than a bad game with good graphics.

Final Fantasy XIII looks glorious. Gameplay-wise it's lacking, and a distinct disappointment as an entry in the FF series. You can play any of the golden age FFs and whilst the graphics aren't a patch on XIII, with the extremely rare exception, the gameplay is much better, and overall provides a much better gaming experience. IMO.

Re a remastered release of the ME series for next-gen, I'd be into that. I know I'll play the series again, and at the moment I'm almost exclusively keeping my 360 around just for that privilege. Upticked graphics would be nice. All the DLC would be extremely nice, and I'd imagine that some of the DLC (ME3 EC) would heve to be included, but at the end of the day I'd probably pick it up regardless.

[Drone223]

Final Fantasy XIII looks glorious. Gameplay-wise it's lacking, and a distinct disappointment as an entry in the FF series. You can play any of the golden age FFs and whilst the graphics aren't a patch on XIII, with the extremely rare exception, the gameplay is much better, and overall provides a much better gaming experience. IMO.

Re a remastered release of the ME series for next-gen, I'd be into that. I know I'll play the series again, and at the moment I'm almost exclusively keeping my 360 around just for that privilege. Upticked graphics would be nice. All the DLC would be extremely nice, and I'd imagine that some of the DLC (ME3 EC) would heve to be included, but at the end of the day I'd probably pick it up regardless.

I think the graphical improvement would be rather small but as long as it has all the DLC from the trilogy then I'll buy it.

[CaIIisto]

I agree, but as someone else previously mentioned, even if it was just a case of them bringing ME and ME2 up to ME3's level graphically then that would be a major plus for me. Anything on top of that, even minor upticking, would be pure bonus.

I'd love the DLC to be included, but rather suspect that at lest some of it wouldn't be. At the very least it would be nice, or at least take the sting out of it if it were either flat out subsidised across the board, or at least subsidised if you'd already picked up the DLC on previous gen.

[Drone223]

I agree, but as someone else previously mentioned, even if it was just a case of them bringing ME and ME2 up to ME3's level graphically then that would be a major plus for me. Anything on top of that, even minor upticking, would be pure bonus.

I'd love the DLC to be included, but rather suspect that at lest some of it wouldn't be. At the very least it would be nice, or at least take the sting out of it if it were either flat out subsidised across the board, or at least subsidised if you'd already picked up the DLC on previous gen.

I think it would get some texture improvements but other than that I wouldn't expect ME1&2 to have graphics as good as ME3, and as for the DLC all of it should be included including the promotional/pre-order DLC for ME2&3 in particular since a good number of people won't be able to get them.

[Sanunes]

I agree, but as someone else previously mentioned, even if it was just a case of them bringing ME and ME2 up to ME3's level graphically then that would be a major plus for me. Anything on top of that, even minor upticking, would be pure bonus.

I'd love the DLC to be included, but rather suspect that at lest some of it wouldn't be. At the very least it would be nice, or at least take the sting out of it if it were either flat out subsidised across the board, or at least subsidised if you'd already picked up the DLC on previous gen.

 

I doubt Mass Effect 1 would ever look like Mass Effect 3 because they changed art styles between Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 3 so comparing them to me seems like you would be setting yourself up for a disappointment.  As long as the graphical changes are purely done by the engine and/or scripting it might happen as long as it doesn't require a lot of work by whoever gets hired to do it.

[CaIIisto]

^^ any kind of graphical tweaking would be 'nice to haves' - certainly not a deal-breaker either way. Neither would the DLC situation, but again, it would be 'nice'.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

I'd love the DLC to be included, but rather suspect that at lest some of it wouldn't be. At the very least it would be nice, or at least take the sting out of it if it were either flat out subsidised across the board, or at least subsidised if you'd already picked up the DLC on previous gen.

 

I'm hoping there's a good chance that it will be, if only because it wouldn't be available on next-gen any other way. I don't think DLC or downloadable games carry over to the new consoles, unless I'm not understanding that right (which is possible given my lack of tech skill and knowledge of online features), so they would either have to release them separately online for PS4/X1 or include it on the disc versions. 

[Drone223]

I'm hoping there's a good chance that it will be, if only because it wouldn't be available on next-gen any other way. I don't think DLC or downloadable games carry over to the new consoles, unless I'm not understanding that right (which is possible given my lack of tech skill and knowledge of online features), so they would either have to release them separately online for PS4/X1 or include it on the disc versions.

Releaseing the DLC separately wouldn't be a good idea since the X1/PS4 port would generate more sales if it has the DLC included since fans who already have the trilogy and want it on the next generation of consoles don't want to buy the DLC again.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Releaseing the DLC separately wouldn't be a good idea since the X1/PS4 port would generate more sales if it has the DLC included since fans who already have the trilogy and want it on the next generation of consoles don't want to buy the DLC again.

I agree. I would have bought it again already if the current trilogy pack had all the DLC, and would have no reason to buy the next one if they don't have it either. I'd just keep playing the ones I have now.