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What is the point of Solo'ing?


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#76
dumdum2

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Yeah the only manual we have are the tips at loading screens.

 

And they are highly inaccurate most of the time when multiplayer is concered.



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Apart from the epeen stuff, the atmosphere is different.

On my side, factions like Cerberus seem to make more remarks, it's more quiet, so you get more of the audio stuff and you can go with your own pace and take your time with enjoying the views or animations.

 

I like to make themed solos for that reason and play against geth in the rain or collectors coming out of the dust clouds e.g.



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Raging at devices.


Srsly fk devices!

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Still a silver player with approx 300 hrs, I would say that for me, my three or so (unintentioned) bronze solos have made me take some significant steps up on my skill level. You´ll be forced to, and can focus on, improving a lot of the basics - how to move around, when to take cover, awareness, kiting. I think a simple bronze solo is a bit faster way of learning some of these things. At least at my level. :)



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1: Lone Wolf

 

2: Grabs in Combat Mastery

 

3: To test your tedium threshold?

 

Nah, I'm out, that's all I can think of...



#81
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Not a big fan of soloing. I usually take way longer than I feel is acceptable. :rolleyes:

I'm much more effective playing with a team and enjoy way it more. The only time I solo is when I need certain challenge points (since it gets done much faster) or for a special challenge. That said, I have found solos to be great practice for when you have to clutch waves and to improve overall awareness. Plus you learn how to take care of yourself in all types of situations.

 

Or better, how not to get into these situations in the first place.



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Trust me, usually if you have to clutch it is because you have teammates that are not yet that good at playing on the chosen difficulty setting. So usually when you clutch in those games you have to clutch basically the whole wave budget, because these guys die at the start of the wave. I also get the feeling sometimes that they purposely don't use their medigels when they realize that I can clutch a wave, and that is quite annoying considering how much more time it takes just because of them being cheap with their consumables.

 

I've got to disagree with this, to me this is just a reflection of how you're approaching the game.

I usually go to a lot of effort to keep my teammates alive no matter how much they die and as such on the rare instances that I do

actually have to solo it's always near the end of the wave, usually after multiple sync-kills. If you're having to solo an entire wave then

I'd say it's often as much a result of your own lack of team play as it a lack of skill on your teammates behalf.


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#83
Zorinho20_CRO

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You never know,what kind of teammates you´ll get in PUGs,so it´s better to be prepared.



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Stop arguing with Token, he doesn't play this game enough to know things.

It's true. I'm sub-1000 hour scrub. :(

Ari was maxed with 3 hours more than you have now, and she only has 651 hours total.


*cough*

Wait does this make me a sub-200 hour scrub?

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I've got to disagree with this, to me this is just a reflection of how you're approaching the game.

I usually go to a lot of effort to keep my teammates alive no matter how much they die and as such on the rare instances that I do

actually have to solo it's always near the end of the wave, usually after multiple sync-kills. If you're having to solo an entire wave then

I'd say it's often as much a result of your own lack of team play as it a lack of skill on your teammates behalf.

 

Well, if they die in horrible places then I don't go for the revive, but if they die in a decent place I always try to revive them. With that said, there have been some occasions where I have just stopped reviving my teammates because they couldn't stay alive for more than 5 seconds every time they got back up, and sometimes you have to make the call whether the game will go faster and smoother if you would just solo it. That depends on what class I'm using and what enemy we are fighting, and it also depends on how good or bad my teammates are.

 

If reviving teammates would cost me like 2 medigels, 5 ops packs and 2 rockets plus add at least 5 minute to the wave, then I might just go solo. Sounds harsh but in those cases I believe that I'm helping my teammates more by not reviving them and just finish the wave myself.

 

Then we also have those situations when we have an objective in a bad spot and the only really good solution is to kite enemies away (center device on Jade Platinum anyone?). When my teammates have not yet understood the concept of kiting thus trying to do the objective when it is futile I actually wait for them to bleed out so that I can kite the enemies around and then do the objective myself.

 

You've played with me a couple of times now so you know that I'm a team player, and the situations I'm talking about very seldom happen with friends or with decent randoms in the team. Usually when there is at least one more decent player in the team there will never be a need to clutch a wave unless the game decides to troll you, but when you have 3 less than decent players in your team that can't stay alive more than 5 seconds from the start of every wave (or revive) while watching their flanks, then there is really nothing you can do.



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It is an aspect of the multiplayer game, which is why they added the banner for it. Personally, I like the Challenge and I definitely feel that soloing has made me a better player overall (but that may just be due to the hours played increasing as well). Also, there's nothing more rewarding than completing a tough solo challenge you've been trying for a while imo.


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I've got to disagree with this, to me this is just a reflection of how you're approaching the game.
I usually go to a lot of effort to keep my teammates alive no matter how much they die and as such on the rare instances that I do
actually have to solo it's always near the end of the wave, usually after multiple sync-kills. If you're having to solo an entire wave then
I'd say it's often as much a result of your own lack of team play as it a lack of skill on your teammates behalf.


Its not always smart to revive teammates as it can result in a revive party and a critical mission failure. If a teammate dies because he wanted to be Rambo and died in front of 2 primes and/or alot of other things, the smart thing to do is not revive.

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On topic. The point of soloing varies from person to person

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On topic. The point of soloing varies from person to person

I agreed for me there a time i'm like solo but now not anymore.



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Ari was maxed with 3 hours more than you have now, and she only has 651 hours total.
*cough*

Manifest = skill

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Manifest = skill


You're right. I'm sure there are plenty of people who have maxed only common weapons who are a lot better than you. They are probably around 50-100 hours played.

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*snip*

 

Its not always smart to revive teammates as it can result in a revive party and a critical mission failure. If a teammate dies because he wanted to be Rambo and died in front of 2 primes and/or alot of other things, the smart thing to do is not revive.

 

I'm not denying that sometimes you have to let a teammate bleed out for the good of the team and that you shouldn't put yourself in situations where you're highly likely to be killed just for the sake of a revive. I'm just saying that if you are losing all three of your teammates so early in a wave to the point where you're having to kill the entire wave budget by yourself, then you're probably not trying hard enough to save them.

 

Honestly I think the problem is that so many people here are just too quick to dismiss their teammates and too quick to cut loose when things get bad without ever making a genuine effort to help them. I'm not saying you should to charge straight in and try to revive them, but with a bit of thought there is always some way in which you can help at least one of them, whether it be kiting the enemies away and coming back, or simply using a rocket to clear the area. Instead though people seem to immediately deem it to be pointless to try and help and just decide to solo instead.



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You're right. I'm sure there are plenty of people who have maxed only common weapons who are a lot better than you. They are probably around 50-100 hours played.

Too bad I can't 1v1 thunderdome me babby to Token as he's on lolxbox



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Too bad I can't 1v1 thunderdome me babby to Token as he's on lolxbox


I just don't know why he has to comment on stuff he has no experience with, and then to try to insult people who do have experience. So after I try saying that given the same amount of time as him someone is a lot better, he tries to evade with a sarcastic "manifest = skill" despite the fact that obviously Ari >> token.

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I just don't know why he has to comment on stuff he has no experience with, and then to try to insult people who do have experience. So after I try saying that given the same amount of time as him someone is a lot better, he tries to evade with a sarcastic "manifest = skill" despite the fact that obviously Ari >> token.

He has console hax too.



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Some people find it fun to challenge themselves. Personally, I do it to improve. Sometimes you're the only one left alive on your team and you need to carry- which can be hard, if you haven't had much practice playing on your own. ;)



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Soloing can help you practice for scenarios when the rest of your teammates are dead, especially on objective waves. You can learn more about the enemies patterns/movements without the distraction of your teammates.

 

For me however, I too easily angered to do solos again. Plus, my attention span is rather short so I would lose concentration during a solo. Those who frequently solo Gold & Plat are among the best players in my opinion.



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Please, feel free to point to where I insulted anyone, blackpotme.

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Please, feel free to point to where I insulted anyone, blackpotme.

1v1 me thunderdome babby we fite like men with Predator



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1v1 me thunderdome babby we fite like men with Predator


Predator is OP. We must kill the enemies through shear force of will.