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[DrBlingzle]

It's in the comics.

Spoiler

Turns out they're probably part dragon.

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[Zelanthair]

In the Legacy DLC, you can overhear two Carta members saying that Sandal looks like 'that Aeducan bastard that got lost in the Deep Roads a while back'. They then proceed to debate whether his mother was an elf or a human.

 

Whether this explains anything about Sandal remains to be seen. Either way, it's amusing that he may be the dwarf noble Warden's half-brother or cousin or something.

 

I'd guess that his mother would be elven. It's mentioned in the elven mage origin (if you talk to the elf in the library) that elves are more in tune with magic than the humans. It would explain Sandal's talent with enchantments.

[Nuloen]

It is conformed in DA2 DLC Legacy. 2 Carta man talking about Sandal or something like what 

thats not confirmation that is dwarf rumor

and bodahn found him when he was child so they carta thugs could not remember him if they can not remember all people they killed they can not remember child lost in caves ages ago

 

It's in the comics.

 

Spoiler

Turns out they're probably part dragon.

that doesnt mean they were created magically

it could be just dragon humanoid that breed with theyre human(or any other) slaves, that could explain why some qunari dont have horns, becouse theyre

"horn gens" didnt proved as dominant plus fact that qunari ignore races

[Mirrman70]

Qunari that follow the Qun do not interbreed.

[Eveangaline]

thats not confirmation that is dwarf rumor

and bodahn found him when he was child so they carta thugs could not remember him if they can not remember all people they killed they can not remember child lost in caves ages ago

 

How do you figure? They've killed tons of people. There's only one lost Auducan half breed bastard. Seems like the second would stick more in the memory for it's novelty.

[Spectre slayer]

I'd be interested in finding out if the kossith can breed with the other races. They were originally made by magic right? I don't know if that makes it more or less likely they'd be able to...

Uh not exactly, they might have a connection to dragons and if thing's were different they may have inherited a special power but instead that power kills them it didn't actually indicate they were created by magic or anything like that, also WOT doesn't indicate anything like that either.

We still don't exactly know where they come from, but we may get some answers in DAI since we can play as an Qunari( Vashoth) and the devs said we can learn more about them to a degree due to the backgrounds having a lot of content that's fully explorable if decide to go that route.

Didn't David Gaider or someone say that there was such a thing as a Dwarven/Human half breed but they were so rare that if a human-dwarf couple got pregnant the more likely explanation would still be infidelity?

Yes he did say something like that, there are half breed dwarfs but they would be technically neither a dwarf or a normal human. What you get if they actually give birth is something that's tall for a dwarf but short for a human being which requires a new race model if they ever decide to include half breed of a human and dwarf.

To be more specific he said this.

David Gaider

Incidentally, for half-dwarves the situation is a bit different. Dwarves aren't a very fertile race to begin with, and far less so when it comes to mating with humans and elves. In fact, it would be considered rare... rare enough that it's considered more of an oddity than a group of its own. The result is also less stigmatized... primarily because it's also less noticeable. You end up with what would appear to be a tall dwarf or a short human.

That calls for a new model -- which we weren't going to get, even if we wanted to address such a rare case. Again, it's certainly something we could do in the future, though such a character would still be considered unusual.

One thing to consider is that humans and elves don't often go to Orzammar. The dwarven city is very restrictive on who it allows to enter. So finding a half-dwarf in Orzammar would be exceptional almost beyond belief -- and when I said that a half-dwarf is less noticeable, that's only on the surface. Mainly half-dwarves would be the result of a union between a surface dwarf and a human. In Orzammar a half-dwarf would indeed stand out in a crowd (literally).

I imagine that it would be sufficient cause for the half-dwarf, or even their entire family, to go to the surface rather than suffer the stigma.

Dwarves mating with elves, meanwhile, result in dwarves -- just the same as with humans. That's kind of an odd picture, especially if the mother is elven, but I imagine such a union takes place even less than it does with humans.

http://social.biowar...ex/575146/?lf=8

I'd guess that his mother would be elven. It's mentioned in the elven mage origin (if you talk to the elf in the library) that elves are more in tune with magic than the humans. It would explain Sandal's talent with enchantments.

I agree with you, that it's the most likely case, he doesn't appear to be any taller than a regular dwarf and this matting is even less likely than a with a human and could indeed explain his talents, his possible connection to Flemeth and his power of prophecy though she isn't elven she does appear to be connected to them, and it could explain why the Aeducan's sent him off to the deep roads especially if people started to notice his abilities and the fact that they are a family of nobles would give them more of a reason to get rid of him.

I don't think they were to thrilled that one of their family members slept with an elf and had a son that wasn't normal and that people might've noticed this or maybe they thought people would so they tried to get rid of him.

We may get some answers about him since he's still in Orliais and may appear.

There's that guy in DAO's Denerim who gives you the Dark Wolf jobs too - he grew up in an alienage due to his parentage even though he looks human.

Slim Couldry, yeah he is and for future reference anyone that looks human but lives in the alienage is most likely elf blooded according to Gaider.

[Mockingword]

I want my Inquisitor to be half-Qunari.

 

Specifically the lower half.

[TurretSyndrome]

While I'd love to see more detail to types of people in Thedas, it's too much work. 4 body types is the best they can do, and I'm fine with that. I'm not against the idea or anything mind you, just think it's best if they work on things more important. Then again, what's important is subjective. Sigh...

[Johun]

It's in the comics.

 

Spoiler

Turns out they're probably part dragon.

Wow, I've never heard of this. Color me intrigued. Coupled with the Aeducan bastard rumor I'm learning so much in this thread.

 

Can you be more specific? Which issue of the comics, and in what context was it mentioned?

[Big I]

Wow, I've never heard of this. Color me intrigued. Coupled with the Aeducan bastard rumor I'm learning so much in this thread.

 

Can you be more specific? Which issue of the comics, and in what context was it mentioned?

 

 

It's in one of the ones where Alistair has adventures with Isabella and Varric. A magister uses the blood of the descendants of Calenhad to magically wield dragon fire (Calenhad was a Reaver, his power passed down through his family) against some qunari. He mentions that the qunari could have been able to use the same power he was.

[ChrisRudson]

Can you be more specific? Which issue of the comics, and in what context was it mentioned?

I'm not in the mood to find which comic, but read this small spoiler to answer your question

 

Spoiler

Calenhad drank the blood of a dragon. Thus, the blood passed on his lineage.

[Johun]

I remember the part about the Theirin bloodline, but not the Qunari. Unless the fact that they hold this information casts suspicions on them.

[ChrisRudson]

I remember the part about the Theirin bloodline, but not the Qunari. Unless the fact that they hold this information casts suspicions on them.

As far as I remember, the Qunari just have a different version of the story.

[Eveangaline]

As far as I remember, the Qunari just have a different version of the story.

I want to hear their version.

[Exaltation]

I think Qunari-Dwarf half breed would be epic.
But i wonder if half Dwarfs can be Mages.

[Spectre slayer]

I want to hear their version.

From Until We Sleep, the same comic where the other thing is from.

Spoiler

They claim that he was a dog handler who was not wise but clever and born in destitution and was very ambitious.

He stuck a bargain upon a bargain and traded stories uuntil he meant a scribe who sent him to a witch who lead him to a cave where there was an ancient dragon that was dieing and she told him to stabb the dragon and drink it's blood.

Which he did, and it granted him strength so no one could stand against him.

I think Qunari-Dwarf half breed would be epic.
But i wonder if half Dwarfs can be Mages.

Not sure how that would work, and probably not for lore reasons.

[Eveangaline]

Huh..this lore looks pretty interesting, guess I have to read that comic.

[Oasis_JS]

Not denying that. My original point was that we hadn't seen any in-game. I'd forgotten about sandal, didn't know slim couldry was elf blooded and I haven't played DA2 yet so I didn't know about Feynriel. Sorry, from now on i'm going to properly research before posting a topic.

No Worries =D i bet bioware understands where your going, you  were wondering if they have any plans for  DA:I or future projects to maybe have half breeds, pop out more in the stories ^^ regarldess if they could be choosen as the main protagonist, npc partner,family member  or random encounter^^ 

   but yeah Drblingzle I find it also interesting if they have any plans.. I would always wonder..if we would get a chance to play a half breed ( Which I feel might be a half "elf/human" because I guess  it is  more easy to write for the DA team )   or maybe  the  Main character has a family member who is half Elf.. or pretty much have the chance to bumb into more Half-breeds over all  . besides the novels or in DA2 

 

 

So Yes if  Mr.G  did say An half elf is born human but.. DA 2 change that did it not?   Or am I wrong? even so.. if they are born human. they have elf blood in them. which I recall the kid saying how he feel out of place.. back in da2 game.  . so let me go into suspension of disbelief  Dragon age fan mode for an moment .  it would still  have a big impact on some one whoes father/mother was elf.  because people will stll judge them.Am I wrong?

Modifié par Oasis_JS, 04 avril 2014 - 08:13 .

[mopotter]

DA2 stayed with the 1/2 elf looking human.  Feynriel is really the only one I can remember.  

 

Mother Dalish Elf, father traveling salesman (so many old jokes wish I didn't remember)   His father abandoned him, his mother left the Dalish and raised him in the Alienage.  I think that's what made him feel out of place, Human in the Allienage looking different from everyone else.  I'm not sure if he got his mage ability from the Dalish or his father.  I remember something about "elf-blood" but can't remember why it was used.