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[Master Warder Z_]

They havn't confirmed Blood Mage specialization though.

 

Also said you would be a Valshoth and not a follower of the Qun.

 

I guess that restriction wouldn't apply but still it seems like something that wouldn't even vaguely get taught in the region.

[BlueMagitek]

I wouldn't be surprised if Qunari had blood mages. 

[Steelcan]

I wouldn't be surprised if Qunari had blood mages. 

 

Considering their policy on regular mages?

[BlueMagitek]

Considering their policy on regular mages?

If it is more efficient to combat the bas with their own variety of magic, or to develop defenses against it, action must be taken.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Also said you would be a Valshoth and not a follower of the Qun.

 

I guess that restriction wouldn't apply but still it seems like something that wouldn't even vaguely get taught in the region.

I'm given to understand you need to do a quest to learn the specialization you want to give your char, so that's less of an obstacle than one would think.

 

Edit: Not being allowed to play a Qunari mage or a Blood Mage would be somewhat more of one, but I don't see Bioware not providing these options.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I think it would be plausible enough personally but alas bioware doesn't pay me for my idea's. i pay them for their idea's.

 

Gaspard actually isn't a bad tactician using the elves as a fighting force, There are pockets of them through out the majority of Orlais in Alienages and if you marshal them together you can form something of an army, put it together with normal forces and you have a decent number of followers. Not to mention their eyes are supposedly sharper then a humans and they have decent reflexes, you could use them quite effectively as scouts or archers.

 

I suppose the credence of the rumor if or if not Gaspard using city elves in his army will be revealed one way or another in the Masked Empire, which i have just preodered 

Not only that, but they can be great at guerrilla warfare since they can sneak into enemy encampments as servants, then strike from within. 

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

There should just be a good story/RP reason for such a thing, hopefully.

 

I don't want to see a Qunari blood mage just because fans demand it or because of "rule or cool" or something. Blood mage backstories in general are already bad enough with humans and elves. There's no accountability or reaction.

What about "because the player did the quest to give his Qunari Blood Magic?"

[Veruin]

That would be an improvement over DA2 at least. It's what DAO did.. although it only requires that unlock for one character.

That lets you headcanon/roleplay other methods your warden could have learned it.  If you want to learn it from the demon, just do sell Connor to the demon and get the ability again.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

That lets you headcanon/roleplay other methods your warden could have learned it.  If you want to learn it from the demon, just do sell Connor to the demon and get the ability again.

It also lets my Cousland have the Reaver specialization for no apparent reason, though I'll note that that was pretty fun.

[Steelcan]

It also lets my Cousland have the Reaver specialization for no apparent reason, though I'll note that that was pretty fun.

 

Rebellious teenage years

[snackrat]

Keeper Marathari uses the term 'demons'. Merrill's dialogue isn't representative of all Dalish, merely a justification for her use of blood magic.

[LobselVith8]

Keeper Marathari uses the term 'demons'. Merrill's dialogue isn't representative of all Dalish, merely a justification for her use of blood magic.

Marethari uses the term when speaking to Andrastians; Merrill also uses the term when explaining Torpor's nature as a creature of sloth (in dialogue with Andrastian protagonist Hawke). However, Anders and Merrill have discussions where it's made clear the dichotomy is culturally and religiously Andrastian:

Anders: Spirits were the first children of the Maker, but He turned his back on them to dote on His mortal creations. The ones who resented this became demons, driven to take everything mortals had and gain back the Maker's favor.

Why would you think the Dalish would hold the same views as Andrastians? They believe in the Creators, not in the Maker. In fact, Merrill explicitly notes there's no such thing as a benevolent spirit (when she chastises Anders), which is echoed in WoT when addressing that the Dalish avoid schools of magic that involve spirits because they view all spirits as dangerous.

[CybAnt1]

Lobsel, just curious. So we know you often emphasize the elvish perspective on the non-differentiation between spirits and demons, and you keep emphasizing that view of difference is Andrastian in nature.

 

Well, while the Chantry does put a gloss on it, and claims "spirits are the first children of the Maker," it is interesting Justice says he's never seen or met the Maker, and spirits really aren't sure whether or not he exists (of course, it seems that they just aren't sure, and none of them go near the Black City in the Fade now). So if he DID make them, they are unaware of it. 

 

But anyway, while it may be true the elves don't differentiate, it doesn't seem to solely be an Andrastian/human view, because dwarves and qunari also seem to think spirits and demons are beings of different natures (based on dialogue I can recall from all the games.) 

[The Elder King]

I think they're both right about some things. Merrill is right about spirits not being benevolent. Justice (and similar spirits like him in the Fade) seemed indifferent, at best. And then utterly dangerous once he was exposed to this world. He would have been better off never experiencing it.

While I think that Justice was showing some signs of....corruption, in DAA, he didn't really change until it merged with Anders, where the latter's negative emotions corrupted him into a demon/malicious spirit.

[Master Warder Z_]

While I think that Justice was showing some signs of....corruption, in DAA, he didn't really change until it merged with Anders, where the latter's negative emotions corrupted him into a demon/malicious spirit.

 

God is in agreement with the false pretender who sought to sit on his Throne.

[The Elder King]

God is in agreement with the false pretender who sought to sit on his Throne.

Please, 'God'....a look at my zanpakuto and you'd be finished .
What part of my post do you disagree about though?

[Master Warder Z_]

Please, 'God'....a look at my zanpakuto and you'd be finished .
What part of my post do you disagree about though?

 

Illusions bespeak of Illusions or in this case; Delusions. Having the ability to warp the perceptions of Mortals doesn't make a deity, being able to create life or revive the dead? That makes a God. 

 

God did not misspeak; And he agreed with the assessment of the abomination known as Anders tainting the spirit into its demonic form.

[The Elder King]

I'm confused. What god are you guys talking about?

God would be his avatar (who refers himself as 'God' though he Indeed had godlike powers). And he was referring to my avatar.
His avatar is Nagato from Naruto and mine is Aizen from Bleach.

Illusions bespeak of Illusions or in this case; Delusions. Having the ability to warp the perceptions of Mortals doesn't make a deity, being able to create life or revive the dead? That makes a God.

God did not misspeak; And he agreed with the assessment of the abomination known as Anders tainting the spirit into its demonic form.

I misread.
By the way, I never stated that I am God. I stated that I'll beat you .

[pallascedar]

There should just be a good story/RP reason for such a thing, hopefully.

I don't want to see a Qunari blood mage just because fans demand it or because of "rule or cool" or something. Blood mage backstories in general are already bad enough with humans and elves. There's no accountability or reaction.

I don't see what's bad about them. Blood magic simply provides greater power than regular magic. Mages seeking power for whatever reason can turn to Blood Magic. It's a pretty simple story.

That being said, while a Qunari blood mage would make no sense, we won't be able to play as a Qunari. Our character will have been born outside the Qun and many of its beliefs won't apply to us.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

That being said, while a Qunari blood mage would make no sense, we won't be able to play as a Qunari. Our character will have been born outside the Qun and many of its beliefs won't apply to us.

 

Which is not going to stop me using names drawn from their utterly badass language.