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[Master Warder Z_]

World of Thedas, page 6. Mike Laidlaw, Creative Director introduction to the book: "Races, Politics, nations, it's all here: ruthlessly fact checked, beautifully illustrated, and artfully arranged."

World of Thedas, page 7. Legend of Symbols used in the book and page layout: "Though written in-world, the volume's main text is one, objective, voice. Portions of the text are spotlighted for readers who prefer to browse."

How much more direct does the book have to be regarding the matter of objectivity?

 

Derp

 

But Tarkin it doesn't include the Dalish perspective!

 

 

 

Therefore it can't be objective!

 

Herp

[MrMrPendragon]

I like this idea. This would really help me really get into the character I'm playing.

If you're playing a Dalish inquisitor, it only makes sense for that character to have the same beliefs, mannerisms, and other behaviors that a regular dalish elf would have.

[Shadow Fox]

And who EXACTLY is being villified in the following sentence: "The war between Orlais and the Dales started when, after years of border skirmishes and strained political relationship, the Dalish attacked the Orlesian town of Red Crossing"? Who? NO ONE! It is a simple historical fact statement. No one is being villified. It is a simple yet detailed explanation of a series of events that lead to war.

Sheesh calm down I was referring to some of our esteemed forum goers.

[Dabrikishaw]

I really don't see why Lobsel keeps doing this. It gets him nowhere.

[LobselVith8]

You really don't get it, do you?

 

I don't get the point in making inflammatory posts and using snide remarks, or invoking Godwin's Law. Why can't you civilly disagree with me?

[Cainhurst Crow]

Everyone is the same in the end, we all want to see ourselves as right and good, and we view those who don't agree with us as wrong or evil depending on how far out of the norm their actions and beliefs are from our own. We can all make mistakes, and often do, and those mistakes can come at a terrible price, but that's expected since it is impossible to be in the right all of the time on all issues.

 

Don't see why the dalish have to be exempt from this basic understanding of human nature, given almost everything about them is based upon real human events and cultures, just blended and tweaked into something new.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

The lines I think I remember were different, so maybe it wasn't the hahren. Will have to look for it, though my rusty PC can't handle playing games at the moment.

 

 

 

Well, as the first volume seems to be mostly written with an Andrastian (of the Orlais' branch of schism) viewpoint, maybe WoT vol. 2 will be written with the perspective of other races and cultures in mind? It'd be interesting to see what elves, dwarves, Imperial Andrastians and Qunari have to say on the matter, not to mention the various human nations themselves. I'm curious to see Anderfels' views on the Chantry or the Grey Wardens.

 

How many times do I have to post that World of Thedas is written from an objective point of view? It already talks about different perspectives of other nations on various issues, such as the role the Chantry and Wardens play in the Anderfels.

 

And for the record, the author is an unnamed peer of Genetivi.

[LobselVith8]

I really don't see why Lobsel keeps doing this. It gets him nowhere.

I like discussing topics of interest with people at this forum, with many people here being nice and polite, even if I say something they disagree. Obviously, that's not always the case, but it's primarily why I've stuck around.

My interest in the Dalish Inquisitor being able to express dialogue that reflects an elven point of view (and a culturally Dalish one) hasn't waned. I think it would open up some intriguing opportunities with other Dalish elves, and some interesting possibilities with some of the Alienage elves.

[Dean_the_Young]

Omitted? Probably not. Considered objective by the developers? Very possibly.

[Shadow Fox]

I like discussing topics of interest with people at this forum, with many people here being nice and polite, even if I say something they disagree. Obviously, that's not always the case, but it's primarily why I've stuck around.

My interest in the Dalish Inquisitor being able to express dialogue that reflects an elven point of view (and a culturally Dalish one) hasn't waned. I think it would open up some intriguing opportunities with other Dalish elves, and some interesting possibilities with some of the Alienage elves.

Would you be okay with Elven pcs also being able to disagree with/dislike their arrogance and victim complex?

 

Not trolling I'm really curious.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Okay, as I said I have only skipped parts of it, so I'm actually disqualified to talk about it. And I haven't moved past the first page of the thread, as I was replying to someone else who responded to my answer on the first page and so I didn't knew you have said this numerous times. Sorry if I offended.

 

It's OK, I was just feeling frustrated because it seemed like I was being ignored and kept having to repeat myself about this particular point.

[LobselVith8]

Would you be okay with Elven pcs also being able to disagree with/dislike their arrogance and victim complex?
 
Not trolling I'm really curious.

I would be perfectly fine with elven characters having differing points of view about their economic situation and their views on other elven groups. I'm also hoping for enough freedom for the player to define the personality and perspective of the elven protagonist.

[Shadow Fox]

I would be perfectly fine with elven characters having differing points of view about their economic situation and their views on other elven groups. I'm also hoping for enough freedom for the player to define the personality and perspective of the elven protagonist.

Awesome.

[Thomas Andresen]

You guys really ought to stop looking for these so-called signs everywhere. And you should certainly stop expecting every single ambiguous topic to be cleared up. Because that's not going to happen.

[LobselVith8]

It's OK, I was just feeling frustrated because it seemed like I was being ignored and kept having to repeat myself about this particular point.

I do think Terrian had a point about how other cultures could be elaborated on in the future. World of Thedas is a bit sparse in providing certain information and cultural perspectives.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

The book does cover multiple perspectives on the Fade and the Black City and magic and so forth, but it doesn't go into a huge amount of detail about any of them including Andrastian theology. In the section of Spirits and Demons it does not mention anything about them being the first children of the Maker. And in fact there isn't really a very much completely new information about lore in the book at all.

[Shadow Fox]

You guys really ought to stop looking for these so-called signs everywhere. And you should certainly stop expecting every single ambiguous topic to be cleared up. Because that's not going to happen.

Hey I'm just here for the Elven waifus.

[LobselVith8]

The book does cover multiple perspectives on the Fade and the Black City and magic and so forth, but it doesn't go into a huge amount of detail about any of them including Andrastian theology. In the section of Spirits and Demons it does not mention anything about them being the first children of the Maker.

Yes, I recall the line about how the Dalish "believe all spirits are dangerous" (page 104). Covering certain cultures and providing sparse information doesn't mean that those cultures can't be elaborated on. I have World of Thedas, and it's not in-depth about certain cultures and viewpoints as it could be. It's why I think it could be delved into a bit more in the future.

[Master Warder Z_]

Hey I'm just here for the Elven waifus.

 

Fenris not good enough for you?

[Shadow Fox]

Fenris not good enough for you?

Nope I still need my female City Elf waifu.

[Master Warder Z_]

Nope I still need my female City Elf waifu.

 

But Fenris was frigging hot!

[EmperorSahlertz]

I don't get the point in making inflammatory posts and using snide remarks, or invoking Godwin's Law. Why can't you civilly disagree with me?

Civilty went out the door the second you chose to disregard the evidence presented to you by multitudes of posters. If you refuse to accept proof, then there is little more discussion to be had.

 

Oh, and master race is not a national socialistic exclusive. It is a concept dating back to Roman, even ancient Greece times. Basically just a superiority complex on a cultural scale.

[wcholcombe]

But in answer to Lobs original question, I would hope and expect a Dalish character to have dalish beliefs. The WoT should have no bearing on in game characters.