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[Raizo]

Oversaturate the market with peripherals and consoles no one wants and kill themselves? Nah, they shouldn't.

You give the western world too much credit.

Maybe but the last time I checked Japanese gamers were more interested in mobile and hand held gaming than they were home consoles and since China only recently lifted thier ban on games consoles I think it is safe to say that up until very recently the Western market has been the most important market since the dawn of the 360/PS3 era.

[Zubi Fett]

I thought they already did, isn't that how we ended up with the Wii U ( aka the Dreamcast 2.0 ).

In all seriousness I am worried about Nintendo, they seem to be woefully out of touch with the average Western gamer wants and expects from a home console.

I also don't get why publisher and game developers don't want to make games for the Wii U, it's would be one thing if everyone had moved onto creating next gen games for the PS4 and Xbox One and they were concerned that the Wii U was not powerful enough to keep up but so far everyone is happy enough to keep making games for the PS3 and 360 and on paper the Wii U is more powerful then both so why are there no 3rd party games for it. I blame the relatively small Hard Drive Soave for a lot of publishers being afraid to support Nintendo's Wii U. No modern day home console should ship with anything less than a 100 GB HD.

To be honest Nintendo have whored out Mario to the point where I no longer give a crap about a new Mario game and I am so sick and tired of Nintendo re telling the same old Zelda tale over and over and over again, you can only go to the well so many times before I runs dry. They need more IP's and they need to spread the love to some of thier lesser known IP's like Star Fox, F Zero and Metroid

Because it did not sell much. A game will hardly give some profit on this machine.

[Cyonan]

I wouldn't read too much into the meta tags on their E3 website. That's most likely just padding for SEO purposes.

 

As far as Nintendo itself goes, I wouldn't be that worried since the 3DS is actually doing rather well right now.

 

For them wanting to get the more hardcore gamers back, the problem I think is largely that the WiiU can't hold up against the Xbox One or Playstation 4 in terms of hardware. It doesn't have to be the most powerful thing out there, but having a multi-platform game should result in holding back because the WiiU can't handle it.

 

Alternatively, simply creating its own port and releasing it a few months later is pretty much irrelevant. I've already bought the game for another platform and played it.

 

It would also help to get some more system seller IPs on the console. Making SSB a WiiU exclusive really would have helped to move some consoles. A single game isn't going to solve their problems, but you need to create reasons for people to want to buy your games console over the other ones.

 

As crazy as it sounds, games would be a great way of doing that.

[The King of Dust]

Nintendo should do what Sega did.

Yeah, they should bring back Segata Sanshiro, get him to beat up some kids and tell them to play the WiiU.
https://www.youtube....cIYDxmnKHY#t=31

[In Exile]

I also don't get why publisher and game developers don't want to make games for the Wii U, it's would be one thing if everyone had moved onto creating next gen games for the PS4 and Xbox One and they were concerned that the Wii U was not powerful enough to keep up but so far everyone is happy enough to keep making games for the PS3 and 360 and on paper the Wii U is more powerful then both so why are there no 3rd party games for it. I blame the relatively small Hard Drive Soave for a lot of publishers being afraid to support Nintendo's Wii U. No modern day home console should ship with anything less than a 100 GB HD.

 

The real problem is, IMO, convincing anyone that using an iPad as a controller is a good idea. To me the system seems like an incredible distraction. The controller looks large and unwieldy, and frankly I don't see what value that second screen adds that it takes away from comfort.  

[Raizo]

The real problem is, IMO, convincing anyone that using an iPad as a controller is a good idea. To me the system seems like an incredible distraction. The controller looks large and unwieldy, and frankly I don't see what value that second screen adds that it takes away from comfort.

As a Wii U owner one of the very first things I did was go out and buy a Wii U Pro controller, I almost never, ever use the Wii Pad. It seemed like such a good idea on paper but in reality it has a few huge flaws;

While it is more comfortable then it looks it does not feel right in my hands, I miss the feel of a game pad.

I think the basic idea behind it was the 2 screen gaming worked very well for the DS and the 3DS so I why not replicate the experience on a home console, unfortunately it falls short. Because they are small and handheld the gamer it is easy for the gamer to follow the action on the 2 screens on the DS and the 3DS at the same time on the Wii U however most of your attention is focused on the big screen and as such most of us hardly pay attention to what is going on the game pad, I can't speak for everyone but it is distracting having to shift my focus from my big screen to look down at the thing in my hand to activate a touch screen co and or to use the second screen for something.

Then there is the development/manufacture cost that each Wii Pad adds to each Wii U. That money really should have gone somewhere else in the development, a more powerful processor or perhaps a bigger hard drive or god forbid maybe a cheaper Wii U.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Oversaturate the market with peripherals and consoles no one wants and kill themselves? Nah, they shouldn't.

No, quit making crappy consoles and stick to making games.

[Cyonan]

I'm glad Nintendo didn't do this, as sound as it is. I'm not balling enough for a Wii U purchase and Super Smash Bros ending up on both Nintendo consoles will give me the first chance in about 8 years to play a Smash Bros. game as all I have is a 3DS.

 

As a 3DS owner who doesn't have a WiiU I'm not really complaining that they did it that way =P

 

If they wanted to push the WiiU however then it makes more sense to give it some really solid exclusives, and SSB is a powerhouse of a franchise for them.

 

Although I can't say it's necessarily the best way to go for Nintendo. The 3DS is a considerably bigger market than the WiiU is, and is likely to sell some of those as well.

 

 

No, quit making crappy consoles and stick to making games.

 

It will be a long time before that happens, if it even happens at all.

[wolfhowwl]

Nintendo made an annual operating loss for the third consecutive year in 2013, ending up ¥46.4 billion ($457 million) in the red as Wii U sales failed to pick up following the holiday season. The Kyoto company's net loss was ¥23.2 billion ($228 million). Total Wii U sales now stand at 6.17 million consoles worldwide, meaning that Nintendo sold just 310,000 in the quarter ended March 31st — a 20 percent drop on its performance a year ago.
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Nintendo expects to return to the black in its 2014 fiscal year, forecasting an operating profit of ¥40 billion ($394 million) with 3.6m Wii U and 12m 3DS consoles sold.

http://www.theverge....arnings-fy-2013

[OdanUrr]

http://www.theverge....arnings-fy-2013

 

 

Well, I don't know how they're getting out of that mess.

[In Exile]

http://www.theverge....arnings-fy-2013

 

They're projecting a whole lot of Wii U sales for that to happen, which, excuse me, but LOL. I suppose that's about the same pace of units they sold if we divide their # per annum in two, but it's a sinking ship so projecting stable sales seems unduly optimistic. 

[OdanUrr]

This is only tangentially related. Does anybody know where I can find the sound when you enter the Nintendo Store on a 3DS to use as ringtone?

[EarthboundNess]

This is only tangentially related. Does anybody know where I can find the sound when you enter the Nintendo Store on a 3DS to use as ringtone?

 

I may or may not have thought that was a great idea and quickly put one together.

 

Maybe.

[OdanUrr]

I may or may not have thought that was a great idea and quickly put one together.

 

Maybe.

 

Congratulations, you win a cookie!

 

 

You recorded it, didn't you?

 

Thanks!

[EarthboundNess]

Congratulations, you win a cookie!

 

 

You recorded it, didn't you?

 

Thanks!

 

Just Youtube to MP3 and a bit of shimmying around in Audacity.

 

And you're welcome. I like cookies. 

[EpicU Sheppard]

The real problem is, IMO, convincing anyone that using an iPad as a controller is a good idea. To me the system seems like an incredible distraction. The controller looks large and unwieldy, and frankly I don't see what value that second screen adds that it takes away from comfort.  

I see the dog is angry.

What are you talking about? Just your opinion, mate, not everyone's.

Besides, an iPad would be larger than the Wii U GamePad.

Plus, the iPad doesn't have buttons, unlike the Wii U GamePad.

Sadly, the Wii U isn't multi-touch like the iPad.

So there's the pros and cons.

Please add more if need be.

[FOBPharaoh]

I see the dog is angry.
What are you talking about? Just your opinion, mate, not everyone's.
Besides, an iPad® would be larger than the Wii U® GamePad™.
Plus, the iPad® doesn't have buttons, unlike the Wii U® GamePad™.
Sadly, the Wii U® isn't multi-touch like the iPad®.
So there's the pros and cons.
Please add more if need be.

Fixed for maximum shill.

[EpicU Sheppard]

Fixed for maximum shill.

Thanks.

[OdanUrr]

So Nintendo has released a list of third-party titles coming to 3DS and Wii U:
 

http://www.destructo...es-280381.phtml