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Foundation's Edge conclusion dissapointment. Spoilers ahead!

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Posté 03 mars 2014 - 11:06

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So I'm finishing off Foundation's Edge after two months of on and off reading. Like all Asimov books, it was an amusing read, but no where near the scope of the original trilogy. None of the awesome moments like Hardin's Coup, or the Mule's invasion, or the last stand at Trantor.

 

But really? The whole thing sounds so silly, they chose Trevize because he has the ability to be... right? Really? Because of his intuition?

 

It just doesn't sound Asimov. He's usually so rational and pragmatic about everything he does, that's why I find his prose so amusing, he's so matter-of-factly and is an expert at describing almost anything he wants to with a finess that is lost with other authors.

 

And yet, after all that commotion, the whole thing because Gaia sought for this dude who apparently was 'right' all the time?

 

Perhaps I'm missing the significance, but seeing Asimov's other works, it was rather anti-climactic. But it was nice to have some sort of 'happy ending.' Trevize is one of the few characters I actually really like in Asimov's works.

 

Oh, and weren't the 'three choices' so RPG like that it make you chuckle? I swear I heard the catalyst in there somewhere.


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Posté 04 mars 2014 - 12:03

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Are you sure you mean "Foundation's Edge" and not "Foundation and Earth"?

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Posté 04 mars 2014 - 01:28

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Yep, it's definitely Foundation's Edge. Haven't got to the last one yet, though it's there for the reading. Right now, however, I wanna focus on the ME books I got this Christmas.


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Posté 04 mars 2014 - 01:38

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I can't remember which book title was which, it's been decades since I re-read them.

 

I do remember the last few books with Trevize as the main character being a let-down though, so it's not just you.

 

Still a better ending than ME3 though. :P


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Posté 04 mars 2014 - 02:33

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I can't remember which book title was which, it's been decades since I re-read them.

 

I do remember the last few books with Trevize as the main character being a let-down though, so it's not just you.

 

Still a better ending than ME3 though. :P

 

I actually liked them better though perhaps for different reasons. Foundation and Earth in particular is great because you get to revisit the "ancient" human worlds as Trevize and company try to locate Earth. You will undoubtedly recognize familiar places (if you've read Asimov's Robot series, that is) and see how time has treated them. Maybe you'll even find some humans? I don't want to spoil it but I enjoyed it a lot.


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Posté 04 mars 2014 - 03:04

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I actually liked them better though perhaps for different reasons. Foundation and Earth in particular is great because you get to revisit the "ancient" human worlds as Trevize and company try to locate Earth. You will undoubtedly recognize familiar places (if you've read Asimov's Robot series, that is) and see how time has treated them. Maybe you'll even find some humans? I don't want to spoil it but I enjoyed it a lot.

Aye, that was a redeeming feature for me, the way that Asimov tied his robot series into the foundation series.  He even managed to work in the zeroth law in a relevant manner.

 

But I still didn't find the last few foundation books as interesting as the earlier ones.

 

It felt like he hadn't really intended his books to have a definite ending, and what we got was kinda forced, as opposed to the earlier books which felt... natural, like he hadn't so much written them as they'd written themselves, with Asimov just providing the start point and everything else just flowing naturally from the situation he'd created.

 

 

That ME3 comparison in the OP may have been surprisingly apt.


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Posté 04 mars 2014 - 03:15

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Aye, that was a redeeming feature for me, the way that Asimov tied his robot series into the foundation series.  He even managed to work in the zeroth law in a relevant manner.

 

But I still didn't find the last few foundation books as interesting as the earlier ones.

 

It felt like he hadn't really intended his books to have a definite ending, and what we got was kinda forced, as opposed to the earlier books which felt... natural, like he hadn't so much written them as they'd written themselves, with Asimov just providing the start point and everything else just flowing naturally from the situation he'd created.

 

 

That ME3 comparison in the OP may have been surprisingly apt.

 

I still like Prelude the best though. :)


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Posté 04 mars 2014 - 07:51

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Prelude to Foundation was my first Foundation book. I saw in a store and thought "why not?" I couldn't find the others and I had meant to read them anyway.

 

Hari Seldon is perhaps the best character Asimov has written. And I don't really *love* his characters the way I love Martin's or Donaldson's. It's not that I don't enjoy them, but sometimes the relationships between characters are so cold. That married couple in Foundation and Empire. I would have never known they were an actual couple if they didn't say so xD (though I do like his female characters, especially this last one. Asimov definitely wasn't a sexist.)


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