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[Mystranna Kelteel]

Deviija wrote...

Well-Bread Human wrote...

Deviija wrote...

Who do I think it is? I am not sure... Who do I hope it is? Garrus. It would be incredible BIZARRE if BioWare gave FemShep an LI that was *not* a squadmate.

What if Joker is the Kelly Chambers equivalent? Then it wouldn't be weird at all.

That would be more than fine and welcome.  However, since Kelly Chambers is *not* an official LI (as confirmed via the Casey Hudson Best Buy chat), then that would mean Joker equivalent would not be an official LI either.  They'd be 'flings'/pseudo-romances.  And thus, still leaves open the third slot. 

What if Garrus was the Kelly equivalent? Seems odd, since one is a squaddy and one is not, but it wouldn't be surprising. The malien romance role is filled by Thane, Garrus's anatomy makes an actual heavy romance nigh impossible, and Casey and the devs can still say they appeased the Garrus fans.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Mordigan wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

That doesn't mean a specific asari wouldn't limit herself. It actually makes logical sense for an asari to be sexually attracted primarily to are solely to either another asari or a female human due to the obvious nature of asari.

That sounds more like wishful thinking to me.  If the Asari are known to prefer "mating" (and I use that word loosely) with others species rather than their own, how does that make "logical sense?" 

Is it possible?  Sure, but not likely from what we know about their culture..  It would be as Spaghetti Ninja mentioned, a plot hole.

You just said yourself it is possible. That completely demolishes the chance that it'd be a plothole.


The asari are sexual beings. There are no male asari. There's no reason not to assume that some asari are only attracted to their own species or simply the feminine form.

It might be a "stigma" in their culture, like homosexuality is a "stigma", but a homosexual human is not a "plot hole".

Modifié par Mystranna Kelteel, 21 janvier 2010 - 06:59 .

[Calla S]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Deviija wrote...

Well-Bread Human wrote...

Deviija wrote...

Who do I think it is? I am not sure... Who do I hope it is? Garrus. It would be incredible BIZARRE if BioWare gave FemShep an LI that was *not* a squadmate.

What if Joker is the Kelly Chambers equivalent? Then it wouldn't be weird at all.

That would be more than fine and welcome.  However, since Kelly Chambers is *not* an official LI (as confirmed via the Casey Hudson Best Buy chat), then that would mean Joker equivalent would not be an official LI either.  They'd be 'flings'/pseudo-romances.  And thus, still leaves open the third slot. 

What if Garrus was the Kelly equivalent? Seems odd, since one is a squaddy and one is not, but it wouldn't be surprising. The malien romance role is filled by Thane, Garrus's anatomy makes an actual heavy romance nigh impossible, and Casey and the devs can still say they appeased the Garrus fans.

Since when was there a "malien romance role?" Why should we have just one option? And why in the world would they give Thane a full-fledged romance and resign Garrus to something like Kelly? It's extremely unlikely. Garrus romance, however, is as likely as anything. They've even altered his body model to fill him out, probably in an attempt to make him look more humanish in frame.

And, yeah, we wouldn't be appeased.

[shinobi602]

Calla S wrote...

Since when was there a "malien romance role?

Well, to be fair, Bioware even said that. It's in one of the videos, I believe part 2 or 3 in that Sci vs Fi episode.

[Deviija]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

What if Garrus was the Kelly equivalent? Seems odd, since one is a squaddy and one is not, but it wouldn't be surprising. The malien romance role is filled by Thane, Garrus's anatomy makes an actual heavy romance nigh impossible, and Casey and the devs can still say they appeased the Garrus fans.

I'm not denying the possibility.  I only said that I *hope* it is Garrus, and that having a non-squaddy LI is highly improbable. 

I have no real expectations. 

[AngryFrozenWater]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Samara: My justicar code forbids me from having children, but I will put that aside in order to save you. Join with me tonight and we will produce a child. When the Reaper dies, its soul will go into the child and..

Shepard: Wait, you want to put the soul of a REAPER into a CHILD. Why the hell would we do that when I have a bunch of completely disposable NPCs to die instead?

Samara: Now that I think about it, that's a bizzare idea. Forget I mentioned it.

I read that while having dinner. Cleaning the floor now.

I am still laughing.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Calla S wrote...
Since when was there a "malien romance role?" Why should we have just one option? And why in the world would they give Thane a full-fledged romance and resign Garrus to something like Kelly? It's extremely unlikely. Garrus romance, however, is as likely as anything. They've even altered his body model to fill him out, probably in an attempt to make him look more humanish in frame.

And, yeah, we wouldn't be appeased.

I think you're putting too much emphasis on the specific wording. You don't know what Kelly's role is, so how do you know if you'd be "appeased" or not or whether or not it's "extremely unlikely"?

Casey specifically said that Thane and the drell were designed to be the desirable male alien species. That implies Garrus might not be appropriate for what they see as a malien romance. Don't get offended.

[Calla S]

shinobi602 wrote...

Calla S wrote...

Since when was there a "malien romance role?

Well, to be fair, Bioware even said that. It's in one of the videos, I believe part 2 or 3 in that Sci vs Fi episode.

I faintly remember that, but with all of the other information we've been getting, there's a very strong chance that said malien romance role will be filled by Thane and Garrus.

Eh. I just don't see why everyone's so set on going THANE IS AN ALIEN. HAVE HIM AND BE CONTENT.

Because everything's about settling for less. Oh yeah.

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

I
think you're putting too much emphasis on the specific wording. You
don't know what Kelly's role is, so how do you know if you'd be
"appeased" or not or whether or not it's "extremely unlikely"?

Casey
specifically said that Thane and the drell were designed to be the
desirable male alien species. That implies Garrus might not be
appropriate for what they see as a malien romance. Don't get offended.

Casey pretty much confirmed that Kelly's "romance" isn't one of the core love interests.

And yes, I know they designed the drell to be "attractive to females," but after Casey mentioning Garrus along the same lines as Tali more than once - especially in a recent podcast, which, honestly, made it extremely clear to me that he'll be included - I'm holding out for the possibility. The drell could've been created as a bridge. Not all girls want a human guy, but they don't all want a turian, either.

And I'm not offended. I'm just sayin'.

Modifié par Calla S, 21 janvier 2010 - 07:10 .

[Darth_Trethon]

Deviija wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

What if Garrus was the Kelly equivalent? Seems odd, since one is a squaddy and one is not, but it wouldn't be surprising. The malien romance role is filled by Thane, Garrus's anatomy makes an actual heavy romance nigh impossible, and Casey and the devs can still say they appeased the Garrus fans.

I'm not denying the possibility.  I only said that I *hope* it is Garrus, and that having a non-squaddy LI is highly improbable. 

I have no real expectations. 

You should be good. Casey said that characters that weren't romance options in ME1 are in M2. That means more than one and only two squad mates from ME1 return as squad mates in ME2 and therefore give you a real chance to romance them: Tali and Garrus. And let's not forget that Garrus is a popular with the female gamers as Tali is with the males.

[Aradace]

Speaking of Garrus...isnt he called Arcangel now?

[Darth_Trethon]

Aradace wrote...

Speaking of Garrus...isnt he called Arcangel now?

I think that's more of a nickname due to reputation rather than an actual name.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Calla S wrote...
Eh. I just don't see why everyone's so set on going THANE IS AN ALIEN. HAVE HIM AND BE CONTENT.

Because everything's about settling for less. Oh yeah.

Personally I don't see much of a reason for them to include two male aliens for femsheps. Not to say they won't, but I don't see it.

Of course, I want a Samara romance. I want a F/F romance, and we have a TON of information suggesting Samara is romanceable. With that in mind, and keeping to what Casey said about there being 3 LI's, I personally think Samara is more likely than Garrus by a long shot.

Maybe we'll get 4 romances. Maybe 7 out of 10 squadmates will be romanceable and everyone will be happy, but, with what's been said in mind, I see Samara over Garrus.

[Eternal Dust]

This board may be very vocal about a Garrus romance, but who's to say that the vast majority of female players out there would prefer him? I think BioWare should consider that not everyone likes the alien romances and they can't just stick two male aliens for females while Sheploo over there gets two human LIs.

[Calla S]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Deviija wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

What if Garrus was the Kelly equivalent? Seems odd, since one is a squaddy and one is not, but it wouldn't be surprising. The malien romance role is filled by Thane, Garrus's anatomy makes an actual heavy romance nigh impossible, and Casey and the devs can still say they appeased the Garrus fans.

I'm not denying the possibility.  I only said that I *hope* it is Garrus, and that having a non-squaddy LI is highly improbable. 

I have no real expectations. 

You should be good. Casey said that characters that weren't romance options in ME1 are in M2. That means more than one and only two squad mates from ME1 return as squad mates in ME2 and therefore give you a real chance to romance them: Tali and Garrus. And let's not forget that Garrus is a popular with the female gamers as Tali is with the males.

QFT.

[Aradace]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Speaking of Garrus...isnt he called Arcangel now?

I think that's more of a nickname due to reputation rather than an actual name.

Yea, that's what I figured

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

octoberfire wrote...

This board may be very vocal about a Garrus romance, but who's to say that the vast majority of female players out there would prefer him? I think BioWare should consider that not everyone likes the alien romances and they can't just stick two male aliens for females while Sheploo over there gets two human LIs.

Bit of a slippery slope though. Since some people prefer alien romances, and femshep may get two compared to mansheps one.

The only solution? Samara is the fourth, bisexual romance swooping in to save the frikkin day. Not everyone likes Tali, and her being the only alien love option for mansheps is hardly "compelling".

Modifié par Dinkamus_Littlelog, 21 janvier 2010 - 07:16 .

[Cypher0020]

I'm so in the camp with having Joker for a romance



Casey did say we could romance ppl we couldnt' before, and its been stated Joker has gone through some changes himself...

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Calla S wrote...

QFT.

Not trying to be contrary, but that is speculation based on him pluralizing a single word. In the BestBuy Q+A he pluralized a lot of words, and if we took them all literally then we have confirmation of 4 romances for femshep already.

We really do have more evidence supporting Samara than Garrus, all told.

[Maria Caliban]

Mystranna fights the good fight on Samara's behalf.

[Aradace]

Cypher0020 wrote...

I'm so in the camp with having Joker for a romance

Casey did say we could romance ppl we couldnt' before, and its been stated Joker has gone through some changes himself...

You girls are evil...you're going to breakthe poor man...literally. lol

[Calla S]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Calla S wrote...

QFT.

Not trying to be contrary, but that is speculation based on him pluralizing a single word. In the BestBuy Q+A he pluralized a lot of words, and if we took them all literally then we have confirmation of 4 romances for femshep already.

We really do have more evidence supporting Samara than Garrus, all told.

Really? More evidence supporting Samara than Garrus? I wouldn't be so quick to say that. Yeah, you guys have an article, but wasn't that in another language? I'm not keeping up to date on the Samara situation, since there's just so much stuff coming in about Garrus~

[Mordigan]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

You just said yourself it is possible. That completely demolishes the chance that it'd be a plothole.

Well anything is possible, but I think it would be a radical departure from what we know about the Asari, and how they've been portrayed in the game insofar.

The asari are sexual beings. There are no male asari. There's no reason not to assume that some asari are only attracted to their own species or simply the feminine form.

While I disagree that the Asari are sexual beings (they are much closer to Asexual), the assumption that some Asari are only attracted to their own species/or the feminine humanoid form, must be balanced against the FACT that culturally, the Asari generally prefer other species/forms other than their own.

Thats the problem..  If the Asari were normal like other sentient races and preferred mating with their own species, then this wouldn't be an issue.......but they don't.

It might be a "stigma" in their culture, like homosexuality is a "stigma", but a homosexual human is not a "plot hole".

Anything is possible, but I think it's unlikely that Bioware will go in this direction.

[Scrimgeour10]

Just out of curiosity...where was Samara hinted at? I think I might have missed that one

[lurking fear]

Aradace wrote...

Cypher0020 wrote...

I'm so in the camp with having Joker for a romance

Casey did say we could romance ppl we couldnt' before, and its been stated Joker has gone through some changes himself...

You girls are evil...you're going to breakthe poor man...literally. lol

Actually in one of the videos we saw Joker walking... so... maybe he is no longer breakable... literally 

Modifié par lurking fear, 21 janvier 2010 - 07:40 .

[Sister Spite]

I really hope it's Joker