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[Zcorck]

What part of that letter points to the fact that it is related to that shite comic? Is it identical to what he says in the comic? Rocksteady has made it clear before that the Arkham verse is based on the original comic canon, where Barbara is Oracle etc.

I was just quoting you because I was wondering why Dovahbrony said it was from Flashpoint. Since he/she could've meant the comic or movie I backed up my argument of it not making any sense in either medium.
Already mentioned that the quoted part of the letter was from the movie, not the comic.
And I was just arguing outside of the bold part. Also 'cos I didn't make the assumption that everyone paid enough attention to Rocksteady's Arkham development process to know that.

[TheChris92]

I was just quoting you because I was wondering why Dovahbrony said it was from Flashpoint. Since he/she could've meant the comic or movie I backed up my argument of it not making any sense in either medium.
Already mentioned that the quoted part of the letter was from the movie, not the comic.
And I was just arguing outside of the bold part. Also 'cos I didn't make the assumption that everyone paid enough attention to Rocksteady's Arkham development process to know that.

That's fine - It's also important that I point out that the Arkham verse only has elements from the comics, the original canon, but it is its own universe same as Nolan's verse etc. 

[ZeroPhoenix94]

How do you know this? You better be lying -- New 52 is shite. Don't want to see Oracle being magically cured by magic, and all the other shite retcons it brought to the world.

 

That's a bit harsh. Not all of the New 52 is bad. The Batman titles are especially good. I personally like Barbara being Batgirl again.

 

Roger Craig Smith voiced Batman in Arkham Origins, MegaIllusiveMan, and I thought he did a damn fine job. I'm glad Conroy's back, though. Same with Troy Baker. They had to give him some kind of VA role after his performance as the Joker in Arkham Origins.

 

I couldn't care less about MP or co-op, so that's no skin off my back. I'm just glad Arkham City is getting a sequel. I'm can't wait to see where they go after the events of that game.

 

Troy Baker and Roger Craig Smith both did an amazing job. Though I did hear too much Chris Redfield at some points.

 

[N0rke]

How do you know this? You better be lying -- New 52 is shite. Don't want to see Oracle being magically cured by magic, and all the other shite retcons it brought to the world.

It's not all bad, I liked

Spoiler

Pre-Damian-Death

New 52 Batman & Robin almost as much as I liked the Batman & Robin run before the reboot. I just ignore all the stupid stuff they did to the Robins as I'm pretty sure they don't even know what they want to make canon.

[TheChris92]

That's a bit harsh. Not all of the New 52 is bad. The Batman titles are especially good. I personally like Barbara being Batgirl again.

I didn't -- It cheapened out an incredibly emotional event within the Batman canon -- You don't just 'get cured' from being a paraplegic. I am literally serious when I say that the New 52's reinvention of the Batman rogue's gallery & characters are shite. The New Joker is just.... ugh - And I'm not even gonna start on Harley.

[OdanUrr]

I didn't -- It cheapened out an incredibly emotional event within the Batman canon -- You don't just 'get cured' from being a paraplegic. I am literally serious when I say that the New 52's reinvention of the Batman rogue's gallery & characters are shite. The New Joker is just.... ugh - And I'm not even gonna start on Harley.

 

Is it really that bad? And here I wanted to get re-acquainted with DC again. What did they do to Hal Jordan?

[TheClonesLegacy]

I didn't -- It cheapened out an incredibly emotional event within the Batman canon -- You don't just 'get cured' from being a paraplegic. I am literally serious when I say that the New 52's reinvention of the Batman rogue's gallery & characters are shite. The New Joker is just.... ugh - And I'm not even gonna start on Harley.

At least Court of Owls was awesome.

Other than that...Yeah New 52 sucks pretty bad

 

But it's not like the Arkhamverse has excellent characterization either. Bane in those games...

Good lord is Bane poorly written.

[OdanUrr]

‘Batman: Arkham Knight’ Batmobile Details & Possible Release Date
 

“We wanted to make the best car in any game ever. That was our mission statement right from the start.”[Balance’ was something that we were very conscious of. We didn’t want it to be like, ‘Okay, the Batmobile is so good I’ll just stay in that all the time,’ or ‘Batman is so powerful gliding around I won’t be using the Batmobile.’ There’s a definite need to use both of those.”

“Basically, you can see nothing stops the Batmobile. It’s pretty much an unstoppable force. But one of the coolest things we’ve worked on is not just creating a Batmobile, but creating a Batmobile that segues perfectly with Batman and his navigational abilities. This is something that was a big focus for us.”

[OdanUrr]

The real Arkham Knight has been revealed! Scarecrow won't be Batman's main villain.

The real Arkham Knight and Batman's new villain:

Spoiler

 

“We hadn’t in the previous games introduced someone new to the universe. We wanted to introduce someone who could really challenge Batman to go head to head with him in lots of different ways. We’re not talking about those ways just yet but this guy is definitely a formidable foe for Batman.”

via GameRant

How do you feel about this new development? Disappointed Scarecrow won't be the main antagonist? Hopeful Batman will be pushed to newer levels of awesome? Afraid the Batmobile will only be introduced so it can be blown up by the main antagonist somewhere down the line?

 

Personally, I think this is probably going to be one of those issues that will draw a line in the sand for fans, depending on the Knight's design.

[felipejiraya]

He look's like Iron Man.

[OdanUrr]

He look's like Iron Man.

 

Then where's Jarvis?

[N0rke]

The real Arkham Knight has been revealed! Scarecrow won't be Batman's main villain.

The real Arkham Knight and Batman's new villain:

Spoiler

If certain events hadn't happened in Arkham City I'd have jumped to the conclusion that that was Hugo Strange. While I was hoping for a game with Scarecrow as the main villain, it'll be interesting to see what they do with this new character. The only thing that really bothers me is that Paul Dini isn't writing it. Also, I'd welcome him blowing up the batmobile if it means we get to use the one from Asylum.

 

What I really want though is confirmation that Robin plays a bigger part in this game. Oracle is nice and all, but having a game where Robin gets more than a 2 minute cameo would be amazing.

[OdanUrr]

If certain events hadn't happened in Arkham City I'd have jumped to the conclusion that that was Hugo Strange. While I was hoping for a game with Scarecrow as the main villain, it'll be interesting to see what they do with this new character. The only thing that really bothers me is that Paul Dini isn't writing it. Also, I'd welcome him blowing up the batmobile if it means we get to use the one from Asylum.

 

What I really want though is confirmation that Robin plays a bigger part in this game. Oracle is nice and all, but having a game where Robin gets more than a 2 minute cameo would be amazing.

 

It would be amazing if Robin were to tag along and help Batman. Maybe even turn it into a co-op feature?

[TheChris92]

It would be even more amazing if Robin didn't, and Batgirl got a time to shine instead. Now that would be amazing - Why the heck is Paul not onboard anymore? Is it because he isn't working for Warner? Didn't think that would prevent him from doing it :/

[N0rke]

It would be even more amazing if Robin didn't, and Batgirl got a time to shine instead. Now that would be amazing - Why the heck is Paul not onboard anymore? Is it because he isn't working for Warner? Didn't think that would prevent him from doing it :/

I think it'd be kind of an oversight not to have him in the game. It made sense in City, but if they're giving players an open Gotham they're going to have to explain what Robin is doing at some point. As far as I know, there are no Batgirls in the Arkhamverse after Barbara. They could add another Batgirl in like Stephanie Brown, but I'd much rather they spent time fleshing out Richard Grayson and Tim Drake's character over adding a new member to the Arkhamverse Bat-family for the final game.

 

I haven't found anything on why he didn't write the script for the game, all I've read is that he's not a part of the project.

 

EDIT: Should have expected that censor.

[Chewin]

 
But it's not like the Arkhamverse has excellent characterization either. Bane in those games...
Good lord is Bane poorly written.

Yeah, Bane is one I've found to be the most terribly written and out of character, which I found strange since basically everyone else are written as their comic book counterparts. The problem is not the Venom serum, since it is a part of his characterization and it played a focal point in Asylum, but making him into nothing more than a brute annoys me.

The real Arkham Knight has been revealed! Scarecrow won't be Batman's main villain.
The real Arkham Knight and Batman's new villain:

Spoiler

 

This could turn out either very greatly or poorly, depending entirely on the execution.

It all comes down to what sort of threat this antagonists will showcase and what he generally will represent as a whole. Him simply being able to go head-to-head with Batman won't make him effective, he has to not only match Batman on a physical level, but also on a phsycological level--being able to outplay and outsmart him both intellectually, strategically and possibly technologically.

An effective method for this antagonist could also be if he challenges Batman's ideals, and whether or not he is still up for working as the Caped Crusader. And considering the events in City (which I really hope has an impact on Batman in Knight) is a great way to bring this matter forward.

Anyhow, it is entirely up to Rocksteady and what they exactly want the antagonists to showcase in himself and Batman.

 

It would be even more amazing if Robin didn't, and Batgirl got a time to shine instead. Now that would be amazing - Why the heck is Paul not onboard anymore? Is it because he isn't working for Warner? Didn't think that would prevent him from doing it :/

Apparently The reason why Dini is not on board is b/c he was not asked along as a writer for the Harley Quinn DLC (for unkown reasons) which pissed him off and made future plans with him and Rockseady improbable.

[OdanUrr]

Apparently The reason why Dini is not on board is b/c he was not asked along as a writer for the Harley Quinn DLC (for unkown reasons) which pissed him off and made future plans with him and Rockseady improbable.

 

Really? Do you have anything I can read on that?

[TheChris92]

I think it'd be kind of an oversight not to have him in the game. It made sense in City, but if they're giving players an open Gotham they're going to have to explain what Robin is doing at some point. As far as I know, there are no Batgirls in the Arkhamverse after Barbara. They could add another Batgirl in like Stephanie Brown, but I'd much rather they spent time fleshing out Richard Grayson and Tim Drake's character over adding a new member to the Arkhamverse Bat-family for the final game.

 

I haven't found anything on why he didn't write the script for the game, all I've read is that he's not a part of the project.

 

EDIT: Should have expected that censor.

Just because the Bat-girls haven't shown up yet doesn't mean they aren't there. Pretty much every Batman character have had a role in the games in some form. Robin had his time in the Arkham DLC, and I'd much rather see a new character be playable like Catwoman was in Arkham City. Also, 'D-Grayson", whom I'll remind you, has had no significant part to play in any of the Arkham games either. In fact, none of the Robins have added anything overall important to the narrative at all - So there's no reason as to why not having Batgirl show up or even better, Huntress or Batwoman.

[Vortex13]

But it's not like the Arkhamverse has excellent characterization either. Bane in those games...

Good lord is Bane poorly written

Yeah, Bane is one I've found to be the most terribly written and out of character, which I found strange since basically everyone else are written as their comic book counterparts. The problem is not the Venom serum, since it is a part of his characterization and it played a focal point in Asylum, but making him into nothing more than a brute annoys me.

 

Bane is (IMO) one of the things that Batman: Arkham Origins got right. He is more then the big, dumb brute that Rocksteady seems to like depicting him as; which is odd considering they have done so well with all the other Batman characters. I liked how Origins Bane would actually use his intelligence and cunning to get what he wanted, and it was this intelligence, not his Venom induced strength, that enabled him to Break the Bat. 

 

Compare this to Arkham: City Bane, who Batman traps in a flimsy, 60 year old freight elevator.   

[Vortex13]

It would be amazing if Robin were to tag along and help Batman. Maybe even turn it into a co-op feature?

 

Please God let this happen!

 

Ever since Arkham: Asylum I have been wanting to play a Batman game in co-op. Being able to do things like co-op free flow combat, co-op takedowns, co-op counters, co-op detective mode, co-op silent predator, etc. that would be the best Batman experience to ever be put into video game form.

 

Growing up there was a reason why I watched Batman: The Animated Series/The Adventures of Batman and Robin over the Superman cartoon, it was because the Batman cartoon was co-op, Superman was not.

[Zcorck]

Please God let this happen!

 

Ever since Arkham: Asylum I have been wanting to play a Batman game in co-op. Being able to do things like co-op free flow combat, co-op takedowns, co-op counters, co-op detective mode, co-op silent predator, etc. that would be the best Batman experience to ever be put into video game form.

 

Growing up there was a reason why I watched Batman: The Animated Series/The Adventures of Batman and Robin over the Superman cartoon, it was because the Batman cartoon was co-op, Superman was not.

I agree. While it's been fun to play as Batman, it has also been fun to play as other characters and make use of their different move-sets.
I think the re-playability would increase as well.

[Vortex13]

I agree. While it's been fun to play as Batman, it has also been fun to play as other characters and make use of their different move-sets.
I think the re-playability would increase as well.

 

I can remember staying up till 4 in the morning playing Batman: Arkham City Riddler's Challenge with my friends. We would alternate playing as Batman (my brother), Robin (me), Nightwing (our friend), and Catwoman (our other friend), and while fun, the one thing that we kept saying to each other is:

 

"This is fun but wouldn't it be great if we could play together at the same time?"

 

That opinion became much more pronounced when we would play on the Iceburg Lounge and have a pseudo-survival contest to see who could last the longest. 

[TheClonesLegacy]

A co-op Arkham game sounds really good.
Which is why it can never be.

I'm terms of challenge map characters however, my favorite one is Deathstroke. He played better than Batman IMO. Had he been given his Sword and Guns Slade would've been perfect.

[TheJediSaint]

A co-op Arkham game sounds really good.
Which is why it can never be.

I'm terms of challenge map characters however, my favorite one is Deathstroke. He played better than Batman IMO. Had he been given his Sword and Guns Slade would've been perfect.

 

The idea of a coop Arkham game fills my head with the image of gamers fighting over who gets to be Batman and who has to be  Robin.

[Ren Roche]

A co-op Arkham game sounds really good.
Which is why it can never be.

I'm terms of challenge map characters however, my favorite one is Deathstroke. He played better than Batman IMO. Had he been given his Sword and Guns Slade would've been perfect.

 

Deathstroke deserves his own game, imo. Shame WB didn't see the potential in giving him a larger role in Origins. He was much more interesting than the other assassins and could have been a menacing villain. But no, ended up being just a one-time boss that got his ass kicked and then pushed aside.