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Finished ME 3 ( better late than never) Why do I feel like I was kicked in the quads?


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That's understandable. And I appreciate your honesty.

 

It's true. An emotional investment goes both ways. Good emotions and bad.

 

It's true the ending is a tragedy, and that the world is an uglier, poorer place because of it.

 

But perhaps even more tragic would be the people who understand why it's repulsive to be reduced to begging and bargaining because of it.

 

That is indecent.

 

Perhaps it is torture. But what of it? We accept it as torture and keep going.

 

(Speaking of 'bargaining,' that would include boycotting quality and worthwhile games as an outlet to attempt and 'punish' BioWare for real or perceived past failures.)



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Er, I do. Or at least, that was my preference- with EMS variations of course dictating details.

Because it's what I had been working towards for since ME1, I would have liked a destroy ending that ranged from survival with top ems down to everyone is destroyed for another 50,000 years if your ems was too low and some inbetween.  I assumed that if I had gotten Tali and Legion to co-operate in ME2 I'd have the chance at least to see them work out the differences in ME3 and not have the geth die.  But I could work with the other two options if the destroy hadn't been so sucky.



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I'm looking forward to DAI myself. 

 

When I finally made peace between the Geth and Quarians on my second play through with my Thane LI, because I felt I should at least play the game again, I chose Control. Trust me it didn't feel any better than the Geth dying. I have to admit, I need my happy ending with this story, or at least an ending that satisfies me. The only place that's going to come is writing it myself.

 

Then I played it for the Citadel DLC and Omega.



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Not one of the comics I ever read. I had Superman and supergirl (of course) Hawk, Justice League, Wonder woman (of course), Green Lantern and the fantastic 4, avengers, and Xmen type comics. :) I appreciate the idea, and if I could get the "chared" body out of my brain I might have an easier time pretending, but I'm far too literal now to be able to do that. yes, the delivery sucked.

uh...Cyborg (victor stone) was in the Justice League for a while no? Before getting rebooted as a teen titan

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At first hesitantly, and then with increasing confidence, She shoots the tube.. the crucible fires.. a red wave of energy pours out across the galaxy, blasting across the dark confines of space. Across many a planet the stunned survivors look on as the Reapers that had terrorised them crash to the ground, their power broken, gone forever.

The Normandy shakes as the wave passes; slows, comes about and heads back to the Earth. Back to the Citadel. Back to where fires rage. Back to a body lying on top of the rubble. A body that moves, a hand is raised.. and is clasped by the one who has been by her side. The one who, amid the shouts and confusion, raises her gently from the rubble, taking her towards the waiting ship - the ship that has carried them through so much.

 

Fade to black.

 

 

Can I have my writers fee now.


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Because it's what I had been working towards for since ME1, I would have liked a destroy ending that ranged from survival with top ems down to everyone is destroyed for another 50,000 years if your ems was too low and some inbetween.  I assumed that if I had gotten Tali and Legion to co-operate in ME2 I'd have the chance at least to see them work out the differences in ME3 and not have the geth die.  But I could work with the other two options if the destroy hadn't been so sucky.

Something like that for me too, although I'd like to have to work really hard to come away from the game with more than "I succeeded - but what a cost." A mid - low EMS ending that leaves the galaxy somewhat intact (at least to survive) and Shepard walking off from the grave of the LI would be rather poignant.



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Er, I do. Or at least, that was my preference- with EMS variations of course dictating details  

 

I expected destroy and only destroy as the goal, but then  I expected more than one ending based on what I had done in 1 and 2. Destroy, survive, celebrate and morn those who didn't make it all the way down to the reapers winning the final battle because I hadn't done something.  I was ready for my destroying the base to bite my paragon Shepard in the butt and maybe the Queen helping that Shepard more. 

 

I didn't expect the 3 choices we got but even with these, if one of the many endings had been a "Happy we survived after destroying the reapers" I'd still be playing on my xbox and not on the pc.



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That's understandable. And I appreciate your honesty.

 

It's true. An emotional investment goes both ways. Good emotions and bad.

 

It's true the ending is a tragedy, and that the world is an uglier, poorer place because of it.

 

But perhaps even more tragic would be the people who understand why it's repulsive to be reduced to begging and bargaining because of it.

 

That is indecent.

 

Perhaps it is torture. But what of it? We accept it as torture and keep going.

 

(Speaking of 'bargaining,' that would include boycotting quality and worthwhile games as an outlet to attempt and 'punish' BioWare for real or perceived past failures.)

;)  If I'm having a nightmare and wake up, I lay there, go back into the dream and kill whatever was giving me the nightmare.  I don't accept  emotional torture in life or in a video game.  Not a game I have any interest in playing.  Truth be known, if I had know what they were doing with ME 3 I would not have purchased it.  Not real sure I would have purchased 2 either.  Would have just played 1 as a single game.  



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I'm looking forward to DAI myself. 

 

When I finally made peace between the Geth and Quarians on my second play through with my Thane LI, because I felt I should at least play the game again, I chose Control. Trust me it didn't feel any better than the Geth dying. I have to admit, I need my happy ending with this story, or at least an ending that satisfies me. The only place that's going to come is writing it myself.

 

Then I played it for the Citadel DLC and Omega.

:)   My 2nd Shepard game involved her leaving Kaidan (who she had started to care about) behind.  In ME2 she romanced Thane and I believe her best friend Garrus might have died, it's been awhile and a bit fuzzy.  But then in ME3 she encouraged Edi and Joker to be happy together and Thane died, heroically.  By the end she was so depressed she chose the synthesis option so she would know Joker and Edi had a future together.  

 

Like Citadel a lot.  Like the pc MEHEM even more.   :lol:



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At first hestantly, and then with increasing confidence, She shoots the tube.. the crucible fires.. a red wave of energy pours out across the galaxy, blasting across the dark confines of space. Across many a planet the stunned survivors look on as the Reapers that had terrorised them crash to the ground, their power broken, gone forever.

The Normandy shakes as the wave pasts, slows, comes about and heads back to the Earth. Back to the Citadel. Back to where fires rage. Back to a body lying on top of the rubble. A body that moves, a hand is raised.. and is clasped by the one who has been by her side. The one who admid the shouts and confusion raises her gently from the rubble, taking her towards the waiting ship, the ship that has carried them through so much.

 

Fade to black.

 

 

Can I have my writers fee now.

 

No, but I'll give you a tip.

 

Don't post something on a public forum that someone else may try to plagiarize and capitalize on if you're the one trying to make some financial gains with it. :P



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No, but I'll give you a tip.

 

Don't post something on a public forum that someone else may try to plagiarize and capitalize on if you're the one trying to make some financial gains with it. :P

 

I hope they bloody well do plagiarise it :D


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He does liven up things around here.

I thought things seemed friendlier here lately...



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Er, I do. Or at least, that was my preference- with EMS variations of course dictating details.

:D   On my way home I realized I failed my first rule of words.  I said no one.  I really try not to say words like never, no one ever, always, Exactly because there is always an exception.



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uh...Cyborg (victor stone) was in the Justice League for a while no? Before getting rebooted as a teen titan

google said it was in '86 and in 86 I was busy doing other things.  It's been a long time since I've looked at a comic book :) .  Did watch teen titan though, my step-daughter liked them.  



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google said it was in '86 and in 86 I was busy doing other things. It's been a long time since I've looked at a comic book :) . Did watch teen titan though, my step-daughter liked them.

he is back in the JLA in the latest movies and comics (flashpoint paradox and War)...but you get my meaning

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At first hesitantly, and then with increasing confidence, She shoots the tube.. the crucible fires.. a red wave of energy pours out across the galaxy, blasting across the dark confines of space. Across many a planet the stunned survivors look on as the Reapers that had terrorised them crash to the ground, their power broken, gone forever.
The Normandy shakes as the wave passes; slows, comes about and heads back to the Earth. Back to the Citadel. Back to where fires rage. Back to a body lying on top of the rubble. A body that moves, a hand is raised.. and is clasped by the one who has been by her side. The one who, amid the shouts and confusion, raises her gently from the rubble, taking her towards the waiting ship - the ship that has carried them through so much.
 
Fade to black.
 
 
Can I have my writers fee now.

So teleporting squadmates for the purpose of marooning them at the ass-end of nowhere was bad, but teleporting squadmates to stage a rescue is acceptable?

The headcanon I worked out for how Shepard could be rescued is that Commander Bailey took a team to the Council Chambers, trying to override and open the Citadel's arms from the inside (and failing due to not having Vigil's override). Upon hearing Shepard's transmission to Hackett after confronting TIM, Bailey and his squad begin working their way down the tower to where the Crucible has docked, and after riding it out as it fires, they're the first to find him. Omnitool transponder let them hone in.
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So teleporting squadmates for the purpose of marooning them at the ass-end of nowhere was bad, but teleporting squadmates to stage a rescue is acceptable?
 

 

Where did you get the teleporting from?



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Or they just looked through the rubbles in the spot where Shep was. Not exactly unrealistic, hundreds of ships saw which spot of the Citadel the Crucible reaction began and which spot was the connection point (as in on the upperside of the Tower)



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Where did you get the teleporting from?

Sorry, was the post edited? I don't remember that bit about the Normandy turning around being there when I first looked it over, but maybe I didn't look close enough. I apologize.
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Sorry, was the post edited? I don't remember that bit about the Normandy turning around being there when I first looked it over, but maybe I didn't look close enough. I apologize.

 

Nah, I did put some (about 2 minutes) thought into it. I was mulling it over in my head on the way back from work today (sorry to those who were following me on my motorbike!) as to how a specific High EMS ending could be with the minimum amount of work for Bioware, and still be vaguely satisfying. I think this would have required the least amount of work (one cutscene of the rescue, and a few modified shots of the Normandy coming back to Earth).



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Nah, I did put some (about 2 minutes) thought into it. I was mulling it over in my head on the way back from work today (sorry to those who were following me on my motorbike!) as to how a specific High EMS ending could be with the minimum amount of work for Bioware, and still be vaguely satisfying. I think this would have required the least amount of work (one cutscene of the rescue, and a few modified shots of the Normandy coming back to Earth).

 

With regards to the motorbike, that's not so bad. I was once stuck behind a woman who actually extended her leg out to the side so she could get her phone out and text while she was operating her motorcycle. I was really tempted to use my phone to videotape it and post it on Youtube. I mean, really? *head desk*



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Or they just looked through the rubbles in the spot where Shep was. Not exactly unrealistic, hundreds of ships saw which spot of the Citadel the Crucible reaction began and which spot was the connection point (as in on the upperside of the Tower)

Yes, I'm sure that with literally hundreds of millions dead or dying their first priority will be to send all those rescue workers who could save lives (plural) to go see if the guy at ground zero of a galaxy-spanning explosion can be saved because everyone not on Shepard's squad is worthless (e.g. remember how Shepard didn't blink an eye when hundreds of Alliance grunts were vaporized in front of him, but the second EDI fell and had a boo-boo he dropped everything?)



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Yes, I'm sure that with literally hundreds of millions dead or dying their first priority will be to send all those rescue workers who could save lives (plural) to go see if the guy at ground zero of a galaxy-spanning explosion can be saved because everyone not on Shepard's squad is worthless (e.g. remember how Shepard didn't blink an eye when hundreds of Alliance grunts were vaporized in front of him, but the second EDI fell and had a boo-boo he dropped everything?)

And if a "blue babies" scene followed right after you wouldn't question this survival/finding him in rubbles at all. So why do you do without "blue babies" scene?



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Yes, I'm sure that with literally hundreds of millions dead or dying their first priority will be to send all those rescue workers who could save lives (plural) to go see if the guy at ground zero of a galaxy-spanning explosion can be saved because everyone not on Shepard's squad is worthless (e.g. remember how Shepard didn't blink an eye when hundreds of Alliance grunts were vaporized in front of him, but the second EDI fell and had a boo-boo he dropped everything?)

That's why I lean more towards the Bailey rescue scenario. One or two dozen C-Sec officers, tops, who have more reason to go there than simply finding Shepard.

I've seen people on these boards argue passionately that entire species are worth less than Shepard's survival, though (and I'm not only talking about those who choose Destroy just to save him). So in the minds of some, as screwed up as it is, finding Shepard should take priority over all other considerations for the allied fleet.

Such people basically want to treat him as "The Shepard," so long as nobody calls him that.

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I think a Normandy rescue scenario is plausible.

 

Edit: not that it really matters what I think though.