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Finished ME 3 ( better late than never) Why do I feel like I was kicked in the quads?


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EDI and the geth being dead is by all means a very, very real possibility. But a certainty? I don't think so. I think the most likely scenario for the next Mass Effect game is a future set after Destroy. I think it's unlikely the geth will simply be abandoned as a race. Two and two.

 

So because you believe that a race that was confirmed to be destroyed in the Destroy ending and has zero evidence supporting their survival in any way, shape, or form might not be abandoned, it's foolish to say that the Geth are destroyed completely even when every shred of evidence in this 'argument' goes completely against your assertion, it's alright since 'you' believe it.

 

David, you really need to understand that you aren't someone who is exceptional or special to BW. Or to the world. Faulty arguments aren't fixed because 'you' made them.



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EDI and the geth being dead is by all means a very, very real possibility. But a certainty? I don't think so. I think the most likely scenario for the next Mass Effect game is a future set after Destroy. I think it's unlikely the geth will simply be abandoned as a race and will thus reappear. Two and two.

 

That's true from an outside perspective, it would be the most practical solution. Still smells like retcon though, I don't like it.



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So because you believe that a race that was confirmed to be destroyed in the Destroy ending and has zero evidence supporting their survival in any way, shape, or form might not be abandoned, it's foolish to say that the Geth are destroyed completely even when every shred of evidence in this 'argument' goes completely against your assertion, it's alright since 'you' believe it.

 

David, you really need to understand that you aren't someone who is exceptional or special to BW. Or to the world. Faulty arguments aren't fixed because 'you' made them.

 

Well, there is no cutscene of the Geth dying, just catty's word for it. And there once was a tweet from Jessica Merizan pointing out that the Geth may be alive in Destroy. Not much though, I agree that the game strongly suggests the Geth are gone. I believe they are shown when Hackett speaks of losses.



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If you'd prefer to indulge in baseless proclamations so as to give yourself more justification to hate the developers and be angry at them, that's your concern. But don't expect me to be a part of such silliness.

 

 

:huh:

:blink:

:unsure:

 

I don't know where to even start here.

 

Show me the name of someone who appears on the memorial wall when they are still alive.



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They're dead. They're all dead. Accept it.

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No worries.....


Sooner or later our children will create new synthetics and the chaos will return.

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No worries.....


Sooner or later our children will create new synthetics and the chaos will return.

 

No method, nor a formula, nor a consensus on how said conflict will exist (if it exists). I'm not going to abscond efforts in the galaxy and take to heart the logic of a possibly corrupted computer built by a race with breath taking vanity issues just to solve their problem at the expense of my own species growth (or that of my contemporaries). In fact, I'll take the time to make my own version of Synthesis at a later point that carries none of the black boxes and stigma of the one of Reaper origin. It will require no death with religious symbolism, no bending or breaking of science, biology, or logic, no submitting to a flawed ideal that has no equation to prevent said ideal, and no having to bypass galactic freewill for a solution that is given no context beyond a promise from the creator of my foe (who is trying to destroy me) that it will ensure his own ideal of peace.


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No method, nor a formula, nor a consensus on how said conflict will exist (if it exists). I'm not going to abscond efforts in the galaxy and take to heart the logic of a possibly corrupted computer built by a race with breath taking vanity issues just to solve their problem at the expense of my own species growth (or that of my contemporaries). In fact, I'll take the time to make my own version of Synthesis at a later point that carries none of the black boxes and stigma of the one of Reaper origin. It will require no death with religious symbolism, no bending or breaking of science, biology, or logic, no submitting to a flawed ideal that has no equation to prevent said ideal, and no having to bypass galactic freewill for a solution that is given no context beyond a promise from the creator of my foe (who is trying to destroy me) that it will ensure his own ideal of peace.

Luddite.
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Luddite.

Mouthbreather.


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Mouthbreather.

Knuckle-dragger.


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No method, nor a formula, nor a consensus on how said conflict will exist (if it exists). I'm not going to abscond efforts in the galaxy and take to heart the logic of a possibly corrupted computer built by a race with breath taking vanity issues just to solve their problem at the expense of my own species growth (or that of my contemporaries). In fact, I'll take the time to make my own version of Synthesis at a later point that carries none of the black boxes and stigma of the one of Reaper origin. It will require no death with religious symbolism, no bending or breaking of science, biology, or logic, no submitting to a flawed ideal that has no equation to prevent said ideal, and no having to bypass galactic freewill for a solution that is given no context beyond a promise from the creator of my foe (who is trying to destroy me) that it will ensure his own ideal of peace.

it's inevitable.



But you can choose to live in denial if that's what you prefer.

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Don't worry OP, you've just experienced the typical ME3 Ending Experience!

 

You're truly one of us now!



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@op: now, it's time to get mehem, and have a drink and a bag of ice for your quad.



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Man, did I just get too attached to the character over 3 games?

Plainly? Yes. Not your fault though. ME1 and ME2 were made in a way that made you take ownership of your character, then ME3 betrayed you. The only good thing about Shepard's fate is that there is no sequel to deny your headcanon. 

 

I chose a different ending than you, but Shepard's fate sucks quite as much, if not more, in Synthesis. I actually wouldn't mind their death so much were it rationalized in a convincing manner. But this thing about "organic energy", the religious vibe and that hint of Shepard "sacrificing their soul", it's been some time since I was confronted with such nonsense in an SF story. I usually know to bail out beforehand, but ME3 caught me unprepared. So I've done the same I recommend for you: accept the good big-picture outcome shown by the EC material for your chosen ending but headcanon Shepard's fate as you want it. Write it down, publish it on FFN so it becomes more real.


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You feel like you were kicked in the quads because you were kicked in the quads.

 

But don't worry.  You are not alone.

I'd contest that after the EC, but I admit your statement resonates with me nonetheless as I recall the original endings. Man, that was a kick in the quad.



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I hear he's pretty tough on higher difficulties. I should have tried that.

Hell, the three Huskateers killed me on my first Insanity run.

And there once was a tweet from Jessica Merizan pointing out that the Geth may be alive in Destroy.

Yeah, but Jessica Merizan also once tweeted that EDI may have survived because she's not based on Reaper tech when the game explictly states that she is.

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I'd contest that after the EC, but I admit your statement resonates with me nonetheless as I recall the original endings. Man, that was a kick in the quad.

 

It certainly was.  -_-



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You probably didn't just finish the game and are posting to stir up tired old ****. 



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 But this thing about "organic energy", the religious vibe and that hint of Shepard "sacrificing their soul", it's been some time since I was confronted with such nonsense in an SF story. I usually know to bail out beforehand, but ME3 caught me unprepared. 

But the problem is that what you're talking about come from mass effect 1 and 2... And for the religious vibe, it's more interesting than what you think.



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But this thing about "organic energy", the religious vibe and that hint of Shepard "sacrificing their soul", it's been some time since I was confronted with such nonsense in an SF story.

But the problem is that what you're talking about come from mass effect 1 and 2... And for the religious vibe, it's more interesting than what you think.

"Organic energy" and sacrificing your soul? I didn't see anything like that in ME1 and ME2. The religious vibe was there since ME2, yes, and I wouldn't have minded its presence if it was nothing more than a possible interpretation of an event rooted in in-world logic. Instead, we're supposed to take it at face value because it isn't rooted in in-world logic.

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Plainly? Yes. Not your fault though. ME1 and ME2 were made in a way that made you take ownership of your character, then ME3 betrayed you. The only good thing about Shepard's fate is that there is no sequel to deny your headcanon. 

 

I chose a different ending than you, but Shepard's fate sucks quite as much, if not more, in Synthesis. I actually wouldn't mind their death so much were it rationalized in a convincing manner. But this thing about "organic energy", the religious vibe and that hint of Shepard "sacrificing their soul", it's been some time since I was confronted with such nonsense in an SF story. I usually know to bail out beforehand, but ME3 caught me unprepared. So I've done the same I recommend for you: accept the good big-picture outcome shown by the EC material for your chosen ending but headcanon Shepard's fate as you want it. Write it down, publish it on FFN so it becomes more real.

I personally would contend that Control is the best end for Shepard. She both has closure and can continue protecting the galaxy.



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Walters and Hudson really screwed up the ending of ME3 when they shut out the other writers. It was a huge mess and it has since stopped me from replaying the series. I don't want to go through it all again just to see that crappy ending (all the endings suck imo no matter what color lights the galaxy - RGB). The breath scene was a lousy cop-out.

 

It would have been better to see Shepard die in the arms of his/her love interest. Or even survive and get rescued if you chose Destroy.


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it's inevitable.



But you can choose to live in denial if that's what you prefer.

 

Or you can actually make an argument instead of resorting to an age old habit picked up creationists (people who believe that the Earth is indisputably 10,000 years old and ignore, dismiss, or lie about overwhelming evidence to the contrary because it wasn't written in a book with magic, dragons, and dead people coming back to life) that because some guy in the sky said it, it must be true. Science, logic, and evidence be damned.

 

Using rational thought works wonders doesn't it? 


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Hell, the three Huskateers killed me on my first Insanity run.
Yeah, but Jessica Merizan also once tweeted that EDI may have survived because she's not based on Reaper tech when the game explictly states that she is.

 

Insanity on ME3? Maruder Shields is still just as weak as he's always been.

 

As for Merizen, I feel that the things that she says that are worth listening too are about as common as the eclipse in 'Pitch Black'. 


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Knuckle-dragger.

 

Low-brow.


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