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Finished ME 3 ( better late than never) Why do I feel like I was kicked in the quads?


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#101
Iakus

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I'd contest that after the EC, but I admit your statement resonates with me nonetheless as I recall the original endings. Man, that was a kick in the quad.

 

Well, except EC didn't address a single issue I had a problem with in the first game.  In fact, it actually made some things worse.

 

As far as I'm concerned, that DLC is only needed because without it MEHEM could not have been made.



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EDI and the geth being dead is by all means a very, very real possibility. But a certainty? I don't think so. I think the most likely scenario for the next Mass Effect game is a future set after Destroy. I think it's unlikely the geth will simply be abandoned as a race and will thus reappear. Two and two.

 

Nothing is ever a certainty, there's no "certainty" that IT isn't real, but that doesn't mean I'll take the possibility seriously. As for the geth, if they appear in MENext, I find it likely they will be rebuilt after Destroy ended them. This would actually be an interesting plotline to explore: provided the details of the Crucible were (now) known, how would synthetics react to a Destroy decision? Would they accept it or reject it? Would they want revenge, something usually associated with emotionality? While I'm not sure I'd be on board with another geth squadmate, I'd certainly be interested in seeing the "next" synthetic generation's reaction to Shepard's choice. After all, my Shepard destroyed synthetics so that synthetics and organics could forge autonomous coexistence going forward. Has he created a future where that is possible, or has his decision precluded the possibility?


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I'd contest that after the EC, but I admit your statement resonates with me nonetheless as I recall the original endings. Man, that was a kick in the quad.


Seeing it several days early thanks to the spoiler group and watching as the overwhelming majority of BSN, still unawares, bickered endlessly about how the far more widely-known thing with Tali's picture was the worst thing ME3 could have ever done...

...was a unique brand of approaching-storm awareness.

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I've always cared more about Shepard than anything else in these games, so in my case, it doesn't really matter if all is good with the rest of the galaxy when the one person I really wanted to save can't survive the ending. Maybe you're feeling something similar to that. 

 

At least your Shepard can take the breath (which the game guide does confirm as "Shepard lives"). I'm stuck with the no DLC and no multiplayer version of the ending, where that's not possible.

Ya, I'm thinking that might be it....maybe they underestiimated how much some people would grow attached to the shep character. I don't mind (usually) when the protagonist dies in games, but this one seemed to affect me on a much deeper level. Probably because it was one played over the course of years real time (2009 to now). And will the series really be the same without shep? Kinda like bourne without jason bourne....not sure if it will be the same, or if people will just get to see characters they have grown to care about die in ME4. I wonder if in ME4 they forgo all of the endings and just do a prologue...Anderson running around in the first contact war? Don't know. ME3 just left me feeling really negative at the end because of how things ended for shep...in all of the endings..



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The only thing I want MENext to address, provided it is a sequel and addresses the endings at all, is to establish that following my chosen ending the galaxy's survivors all agreed that the glowing green eyes were more than a bit unnecessary and banded together to find that switch and shut it down.

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The only thing I want MENext to address, provided it is a sequel and addresses the endings at all, is to establish that following my chosen ending the galaxy's survivors all agreed that the glowing green eyes were more than a bit unnecessary and banded together to find that switch and shut it down.

 

That's pretty much going to be a certainty. If they account for Synthesis it ain't gonna be in the form of creating duplicate models for every NPC in the game to account for green eyes.



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Shepard's death didn't hit me very hard actually. Even with EC the only reason I tear up like mad is because Tricia's delivery of the final lines in my epilogue is some of the best work she's ever produced. I like what I make of my Shepards but I never feel as attached to them as I do several other characters. And I was always prepared to see them go.

I got awfully lucky in that regard. Clearly most players were not.

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That's pretty much going to be a certainty. If they account for Synthesis it ain't gonna be in the form of creating duplicate models for every NPC in the game to account for green eyes.


I know. Color me green with happiness over a technical challenge barring such idiocy. <3

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Me too. It's a lot better than BSN chatter led me to believe.

 

I just went through the same thing with DmC Devil May Cry. Great game. Example #432978 of "just play the game yourself" (financial considerations aside :D ).



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I got awfully lucky in that regard. Clearly most players were not.

I'm glad that you, at least admit that you were one of the fortunate.

 

Though really, luck should never have been a factor.  It shouold not have taken psychic powers to realize that these endings were not going to fly with a large number of players.



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I'm with you there iakus. Always have been. What compelled them to think otherwise will always escape me.

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But this thing about "organic energy", the religious vibe and that hint of Shepard "sacrificing their soul", it's been some time since I was confronted with such nonsense in an SF story. I usually know to bail out beforehand, but ME3 caught me unprepared.


I think I've asked this before, but did you ever read the Hyperion Cantos?

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Low-brow.

Flat Head



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Well, except EC didn't address a single issue I had a problem with in the first game.  In fact, it actually made some things worse.
 
As far as I'm concerned, that DLC is only needed because without it MEHEM could not have been made.


EC addressed some things I had an issue with(such as extent of relay damage), utterly ignored the thing that was most important to me(Shep's fate in high ems destroy) and made worse some things(how and why squad deserted the fight on earth). Like you the overriding benefit comes from what mehem mod was able to transform the content into.

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Flat Head

 

Why are you insulting me? Am I your friend or something?



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In addition we don't know what happens on Citadel during the final battle. Did the Council survive ? Did Bailey survive ?



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Bailey was the middle husk in the final run to the beam :devil:



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I think I've asked this before, but did you ever read the Hyperion Cantos?

 

I've read Hyperion and the Fall of Hyperion.

 

Tried reading Endymion, but the religious allegory was so thick by then I had to put it down.



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In addition we don't know what happens on Citadel during the final battle. Did the Council survive ? Did Bailey survive ?

 

Any named characters survive according to Patrick Weekes.



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Any named characters survive according to Patrick Weekes.

 

Mac Walters is not so optimistic :whistle:



#121
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Any named characters survive according to Patrick Weekes.


Did the named characters gang together to sacrifice the poor unnamed folks to the reapers. I'll stick to notion that most didn't get out alive.

#122
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Why are you insulting me? Am I your friend or something?

Don't mind me, I suppose I'm too easily amused for my own good. I meant nothing by it.

 

*shrug*



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I like this thread. It takes me fondly back to March 2012. 

 

I don't think I've ever seen a forum go as nuclear as this one did on the first Friday following ME3's release. 

 

It was incredible. 



#124
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And the game is still radioactive two years later.

 

I really hope Biwoare learned something from this.



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I like this thread. It takes me fondly back to March 2012. 
 
I don't think I've ever seen a forum go as nuclear as this one did on the first Friday following ME3's release. 
 
It was incredible.


I still remember the shock of posting in threads and the thread would already have moved on pages worth in the meantime.
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