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[The Elder King]

Even if all elven PC are dalish, there might be some differences in your role in the clan. A dalish mage has to be a Keeper/First (more likely the latter), he/she can't be a warrior.
I wanted to be a dalish, but I'm Sorry for those who wanted to play a CE. I guess though that it could be because of having four different VA for the elf PC-being exclusively dalish increases the changes of a different VA.
As for the tattoos, I remember that DAO did let is not have them on our dalish/casteless. I doubt you'll be forced to use them, or that the game will recognize the differences.

[pallascedar]

How would a City Elf not have made sense?

Well, it wouldn't have made sense except in the context of a circle, and we already have a circle mage from the humans POV (I'm assuming). To clarify even further, you can't have a single elven origin in the city. A city elf mage's life would be fundamentally different from other city elves. This isn't necessarily true for the Dalish, while a Dalish mage is still different from others, s/he still lives pretty much unjudged in the clan.

 

From a purely economic perspective, cutting the city elf made more sense as it allowed them to create a character that made sense without delving into completely divergent stories.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well, it wouldn't have made sense except in the context of a circle, and we already have a circle mage from the humans POV (I'm assuming).

Either they were there as a servant or there to represent the City Elves allied with Gaspard in the Civil War. Easy. 

 

 

I wanted to be a dalish, but I'm Sorry for those who wanted to play a CE. I guess though that it could be because of having four different VA for the elf PC-being exclusively dalish increases the changes of a different VA.

This is probably a big reason. While it still sucks, at least I can see why they did it from this point of view. 

[dragondreamer]

You definitely didn't have to have vallaslin on your Dalish PC in Origins.  My sister tried playing a Dalish elf, and she didn't give her any markings.  When she found out about the vallaslin, she was a little upset she couldn't edit the character.  (There should be a short blurb about the significance of the tattoos in the CC...)  I did suggest the same thing I'd say here: just pretend your Dalish elf hadn't gotten them yet.

 

Not having a City Elf option is disappointing, but I'm happy to have an elf to play at all.  And Dalish was always my first choice for DA:I, they just seem to fit what we know of the story so far.  It could also be a good thing if the content will be more in-depth as a result.  I suppose this might also answer the question of how the different elven accents would be handled...  Single Irish/Welsh voice set for elven Inquisitors? 

[pallascedar]

Either they were there as a servant or there to represent the City Elves allied with Gaspard in the Civil War. Easy. 

I'm pretty sure I said mage in particular. I don't think there are many magely servants.

[Kimarous]

So how do we explain the lack of tats on our Elves?

 

Well, if we consult the Dragon Age codex...

 

(second paragraph of "Vallaslin: Blood Writing")

The ritual deserves great reverence. The one who is to gain the vallaslin must prepare by meditating on the gods and the ways of our people, and by purifying the body and the skin. When the time comes, the keeper of the clan applies the blood writing. This is done in complete silence. Cries of pain are signs of weakness. If one cannot tolerate the pain of the blood writing, they are not ready to undertake the responsibilities of an adult. The keeper may stop the ritual if they decide that the one gaining the vallaslin is not ready. There is no shame in this, for all children are different, and our ancestors once took centuries to come of age.

 

So a possible explanation is "you have a particularly sensitive face" or just plain "you aren't ready yet."

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'm pretty sure I said mage in particular. I don't think there are many magely servants.

I'm talking about for Elven Warriors or Rogues. Mages I get sticking with Dalish.

[pallascedar]

I'm talking about for Elven Warriors or Rogues. Mages I get sticking with Dalish.

 

Yeah, that was my whole point. I would love to play a city elf rogue or warrior, but a City Elf mage just isn't as intriguing as a Dalish Mage. If they had to cut either City Elf or Dalish, it makes sense to cut CE because the Dalish Mage story is more interesting.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yeah, that was my whole point. I would love to play a city elf rogue or warrior, but a City Elf mage just isn't as intriguing as a Dalish Mage. If they had to cut either City Elf or Dalish, it makes sense to cut CE because the Dalish Mage story is more interesting.

And I say there was no good reason to not have both.

[The Elder King]

And I say there was no good reason to not have both.

In term of narrative, I agree. Sadly the cost of adding an additional background/VA might've let to not considering it/scrap it.
As for now, I think that the backgrounds are dalish, dwarf, qunari (likely the same for every class), human warrior/rogue and human mage.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

In term of narrative, I agree. Sadly the cost of adding an additional background/VA might've let to not considering it/scrap it.
As for now, I think that the backgrounds are dalish, dwarf, qunari (likely the same for every class), human warrior/rogue and human mage.

So much for 'every race gets a different backstory for being a mage or nonmage'. The only ones that seem to do so are human. Well, better than nothing I guess and at least we get Qunari now.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

To sum this up... there's no such thing as dwarf mage and if I don't want to play as human, I'm forced to be homeless and shoeless (elf) or bound and horny (vashoth).

 

huh

[Hanako Ikezawa]

To sum this up... there's no such thing as dwarf mage and if I don't want to play as human, I'm forced to be homeless and shoeless (elf) or bound and horny (vashoth).

 

huh

Well, you won't be bound since the Qunari Inquisitor is a Vashoth, not a follower of the Qun.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

Well, you won't be bound since the Qunari Inquisitor is a Vashoth, not a follower of the Qun.

 

Yeah, I understand that. But the mental image of Ketojan is still there, besides.. i don't think Vashoth view mages much differently than Qunari. We'll see, won't we?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Yeah, I understand that. But the mental image of Ketojan is still there, besides.. i don't think Vashoth view mages much differently than Qunari. We'll se, won't we?

I'd laugh if the Vashoth view mages the exact opposite of how Qunari do out of spite for the Qun.

[stysiaq]

To sum this up... there's no such thing as dwarf mage and if I don't want to play as human, I'm forced to be homeless and shoeless (elf) or bound and horny (vashoth).

 

huh

 

Well, you're just loosing a city elf option which isn't that interesting or different from human elf.

[stysiaq]

Well, you're just loosing a city elf option which isn't that interesting or different from human elf.

 

I meant human mage, of course.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well, you're just loosing a city elf option which isn't that interesting or different from human elf.

In your opinion, maybe.

[Legenlorn]

I'd say that it depends on the person. For some (like myself) the dalish origin is not so interesting. Being a city elf felt way more fun.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

I'd laugh if the Vashoth view mages the exact opposite of how Qunari do out of spite for the Qun.

I think if that were the case, the Qunari would be the ones doing something in spite of Vashoth. Or at least Arishok would. If he lived, that is. Or at least he seemed like he would.

 

huh

 

I meant human mage, of course.

That acually was funny. When NPCs couldn't decide if they should insult my PC's race or class, I mean.

Besides, humans are booooring, you're one everyday after all.

[stysiaq]

In your opinion, maybe.

 

Well, both characters would be visiting similair locations, wouldn't they? It's kinda sad, but maybe dropping 'city elf mage storyline' - or any other storyline - is a price for a DA:O like prologues (which were quite brilliant), assuming that each story begins with a prologue that leads to you becoming the inquisitor.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well, both characters would be visiting similair locations, wouldn't they? It's kinda sad, but maybe dropping 'city elf mage storyline' - or any other storyline - is a price for a DA:O like prologues (which were quite brilliant), assuming that each story begins with a prologue that leads to you becoming the inquisitor.

No, it still sounds like they are going the Mass Effect route by having the Inquisitor have a background.

And as I said, they should have gone Mage=Dalish and Warrior/Rogue=City Elf.

[Innsmouth Dweller]

Well, both characters would be visiting similair locations, wouldn't they? It's kinda sad, but maybe dropping 'city elf mage storyline' - or any other storyline - is a price for a DA:O like prologues (which were quite brilliant), assuming that each story begins with a prologue that leads to you becoming the inquisitor.

There will be no such thing as prologue. But I don't really mind if chosen background is somehow referenced by NPCs/companions, role-playing is fun.

Don't get me wrong, DA:I is bound to be epic even w/o city elf background/origin-thingy. But, you know... It WOULD be nice, right?

[The Elder King]

So much for 'every race gets a different backstory for being a mage or nonmage'. The only ones that seem to do so are human. Well, better than nothing I guess and at least we get Qunari now.

 
I actually recall that in the panel they stated that the mage background is unique, but they didn't say anything about every mage background.
They were probably vague becuase the backgrounds weren't fixed yet, but I know for sure that they never state that every race gets two backgrounds. That was an interpretation based on the statement of mage background being unique.
I feared that with the dalish background they'd have gone with it being the only one for elf, since it can cover all the classes. I never though the qunari would've got two backgrounds though.
 

To sum this up... there's no such thing as dwarf mage and if I don't want to play as human, I'm forced to be homeless and shoeless (elf) or bound and horny (vashoth).
 
huh

Based on the panel, all elves might be shoeless (I hope not), but this won't involve the PC. The elf PC should be able to equip boots. I know though that if it's not the case I'd likely play another race first.
As for the qunari, we don't know yet the background, but I honestly doubt the mage will bound. Se don't Know yet about the horns

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 
I actually recall that in the panel they stated that the mage background is unique, but they didn't say anything about every mage background.
They were probably vague becuase the backgrounds weren't fixed yet, but I know for sure that they never state that every race gets two backgrounds. That was an interpretation based on the statement of mage background being unique.
I feared that with the dalish background they'd have gone with it being the only one for elf, since it can cover all the classes. I never though the qunari would've got two backgrounds though.

Still sucks that the only race to get two distinct backgrounds is Human.