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[Wulfram]

I thought the shoeless thing was a universal design for all elves in the previous game.

 

I don't know about universal - I think some of the more minor characters had shoes - but Athenril was city and shoeless

[drake heath]

It was more or less universal.

 

Like being hideous, almost every DA2 elf did it.

[Allan Schumacher]

I'd say that it depends on the person. For some (like myself) the dalish origin is not so interesting. Being a city elf felt way more fun.

 

I do agree that the Dalish origin in DAO was probably the least interesting (disclaimer: it was also the first level to load on consoles, so I probably played it more than 200 times....).  The city elf was more interesting and had a stronger sense of conflict (I wonder if it's because it's a bit easier to relate to, and in that sense a bit more "human") which I think set the stage for the City Elf having a greater opportunity at coming across as interesting.

 

That said, it also makes me wonder if some who are very disappointed would end up being pleasantly surprised if the Dalish components were just done better and were considered more interesting?

[LPPrince]

I do agree that the Dalish origin in DAO was probably the least interesting (disclaimer: it was also the first level to load on consoles, so I probably played it more than 200 times....).  The city elf was more interesting and had a stronger sense of conflict (I wonder if it's because it's a bit easier to relate to, and in that sense a bit more "human") which I think set the stage for the City Elf having a greater opportunity at coming across as interesting.

 

That said, it also makes me wonder if some who are very disappointed would end up being pleasantly surprised if the Dalish components were just done better and were considered more interesting?

 

Perhaps this would be an opportunity to make the plight of the Dalish more relatable, or make it more interesting for those who don't find it such.

[Artemis Leonhart]

Perhaps this would be an opportunity to make the plight of the Dalish more relatable, or make it more interesting for those who don't find it such.

And for boots. Let's not forget the boots.

[Sylvianus]

I considered the dalish origin very very bland. Never liked it. loved the city elf origin. But, I always thought that the dalish origin could have much more potential. That's why I was happy to learn that we could play them in DA:I. 

[LPPrince]

And for boots. Let's not forget the boots.

 

Goddamned right

[Lorien19]

And for boots. Let's not forget the boots.

Oh!You can say that again!

[Artemis Leonhart]

Goddamned right

 

 

Oh!You can say that again!

Yes! I mean, we are going to Orlais, the most fabulous country in Thedas! We are bound to find some gorgeous boots and shoes and elven Inquisitors have every right to look as good as other Inquisitors! Please, Bioware, don't let the elves miss out on fancy boots and shoes.

[LPPrince]

Yes! I mean, we are going to Orlais, the most fabulous country in Thedas! We are bound to find some gorgeous boots and shoes and elven Inquisitors have every right to look as good as other Inquisitors! Please, Bioware, don't let the elves miss out on fancy boots and shoes.

 

Leliana would be cross with the devs

[Artemis Leonhart]

Leliana would be cross with the devs

She would faint if she knew that someone was missing out on fancy orlesian shoes. Then she would proceed to talk about shoes rights to the art department 'til they complied to her requests.

[Wulfram]

For me the main problem with Dalish isn't the DA origin, but the way they're stuck up jerks.  They're like Orlesian nobles without the fashion.

 

Also, their backward looking society is hard for me to relate to.  And I've never really been into the nomad thing, personally.

[highcastle]

I considered the dalish origin very very bland. Never liked it. loved the city elf origin. But, I always thought that the dalish origin could have much more potential. That's why I was happy to learn that we could play them in DA:I. 

 

Bland is also the word I'd use regarding the Dalish origin. It was also the least connected to the main story, with that particular clan never reappearing and the one hook in the intro (Tamlen) rarely making his second appearance because of a bug.

 

The Dalish have also felt a lot more like traditional depictions of elves. Aloof forest folk is not a particularly novel interpretation, and even the fallen culture trope has some roots in popular media. Seeing the elves living in slums was more of a departure from the norm and thus a bit more intriguing in my estimation. However, by restricting the elven option to only Dalish, this hopefully translates into more time and resources devoted to fleshing out their culture. While I would have preferred a city option, I'm intrigued enough to revisit the Dalish.

[Rotward]

Why's it got to be one or the other? Here's to hoping we can start as an elf bandit, or something that doesn't fit into either of those tropes. I'm not sure if that's the right word, but oh well, I'm using it anyway! 

[CybAnt1]

Dalish protag-PC does not mean no City Elf companions, or 'highly significant' non-party NPCs ... 

[highcastle]

Dalish protag-PC does not mean no City Elf companions, or 'highly significant' non-party NPCs ... 

 

No it doesn't, and I don't think anyone was suggesting it did. But a Dalish protagonist does color a significant portion of the PC's background. That could be cause for excitement in some, disappointment in others, and tentative interest for those without a vested interest in the whole thing.

[Wulfram]

Dalish protag-PC does not mean no City Elf companions, or 'highly significant' non-party NPCs ... 

 

Well, the leak suggests there's Sera.  But while she's an elf of the City, she's also said to not be culturally elvish

[Master Warder Z_]

Well, the leak suggests there's Sera.  But while she's an elf of the City, she's also said to not be culturally elvish

 

What does that mean?

 

She doesn't worship the ancient Gods? Doesn't skirt about the forests murdering random people? 

 

I don't worship Thunnir and i don't murder roman soldiers but i still consider myself Germanic.

 

Not being a backwoods skulker doesn't make city elves non elvish.

[Wulfram]

What does that mean?

 

She doesn't worship the ancient Gods? Doesn't skirt about the forests murdering random people? 

 

I don't worship Thunnir and i don't murder roman soldiers but i still consider myself Germanic.

 

Not being a backwoods skulker doesn't make city elves non elvish.

 

Well, the leak said

 

She revels in the athleticism of being an elf, of being different. But her culture isn’t elven, or, for that matter, strictly human. It’s the underbelly of the city.

 

Which to me would imply that she wasn't from the alienage elven culture, either

[Master Warder Z_]

Well, the leak said

 

She revels in the athleticism of being an elf, of being different. But her culture isn’t elven, or, for that matter, strictly human. It’s the underbelly of the city.

 

Which to me would imply that she wasn't from the alienage elven culture, either

 

I don't put much stock into leaks but i'd point out that being "Dalish" doesn't equate in DA with being elven culturally.

 

Alienage Culture is just as valid.

[Wulfram]

I don't put much stock into leaks but i'd point out that being "Dalish" doesn't equate in DA with being elven culturally.

 

Alienage Culture is just as valid.

 

I wasn't implying otherwise

[Master Warder Z_]

I wasn't implying otherwise

 

Granted.

 

It's just i dispute the logic of what was within the leak.

[Wulfram]

Granted.

 

It's just i dispute the logic of what was within the leak.

 

The leak, as I read it, isn't saying that the alienage culture isn't elven, but that Sera isn't part of that alienage culture

[Master Warder Z_]

The leak, as I read it, isn't saying that the alienage culture isn't elven, but that Sera isn't part of that alienage culture

 

I suppose we will find out when the game launches.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I do agree that the Dalish origin in DAO was probably the least interesting (disclaimer: it was also the first level to load on consoles, so I probably played it more than 200 times....).  The city elf was more interesting and had a stronger sense of conflict (I wonder if it's because it's a bit easier to relate to, and in that sense a bit more "human") which I think set the stage for the City Elf having a greater opportunity at coming across as interesting.

 

That said, it also makes me wonder if some who are very disappointed would end up being pleasantly surprised if the Dalish components were just done better and were considered more interesting?

Probably not.