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AlexWk31

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What's your opinion on the way Bioware has handled LGBT romances? And what do you hope to see in the future?

 

For me, personally, I think they've done an adequate job. I commend the Dragon Age team for including Same-Sex LI in the very first game (as opposed to Mass Effect that didn't include them until Mass Effect 3). 

 

I know some people were upset that there was only one option in DA:O but I loved Zev so I didn't really care :P I liked that he openly acknowledged he'd been with both men and women and wasn't "player-sexual", Leliana too. 

 

That's where my only problem with DA2 romances come in. Anders admitted to loving a man (only to m!Hawke <_< ) and Isabela, well, is quite obvious how she feels. Fenris and Merrill never did. That kind of bothered me. I don't like the idea of "player-sexual" but I accept it as fair for all players. 

 

I just wish there were CANON reasons for them being bisexual, or gay however you choose to look at it for your particular playthrough. Either they've always had attractions toward the same-sex or have had same-sex partners in the past.  Like Steve and Samantha, though they were legit gay :) - LI in DA:I are confirmed to be open to both sexes.

 

I hope with DA:I they do something along those lines instead of just saying they're open to everyone. It makes it as real as something like that can possibly be in a fantasy game. 

 

The only real complaint I've ever had about Bioware was their horrible handling of SWTOR. They didn't include s/s content but they did include straight content. They waited an incredibly long time to actually comment about it and then, when they DID include s/s content it was isolated to one planet. The famous "Gay Planet." That was the only time I've ever been pissed at Bioware.

 

I know this argument has been made a thousand times before but I just wanted to put in my two cents.



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I must admit I get moody about the subject. So, up front, “This is in no way a jab”. I really just want to get past the whole thing. If while playing a game I meet someone, I want to decide rather I have interest in them or not. And I want it written in at least A level English. No more gender issues. The real world reality is too stark for many to deal with. We make up about 10% of the population which means the pool of possibilities is really rather bleak.

It appears to me, like in real life the big issue is to get past is the introduction. Leliana and Zevran discuss it, but why? My wife and I never spend any time discussing our sexual preference now or before we got married. We dated and we went to gay bars, but that does not take a lot of reasoning.

So in reply; If Thedas is, and it is supposed to be, non-discriminate (it claims this towards female equity some place in the lore), then it should be an everyday occurrence to see men or women walking hand in hand, perhaps at the 10% level.

I really don’t see any reason to justify it in lore. Better to just make a statement that say, “Religions, (lead by a few pompous, self-serving, old men,) never took hold in Thedas until it was already understood that sexual diversity was part of the makeup of the species that inhabits that world. Hmm, kind of reverse to what we currently experience.

Bio appears to be on the right track, while the real world still has quite a bit of sucking to do.

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I WANT to want that. I want it not to be a big deal. They shouldn't need a reason to be into whatever they're into.  Part of me wants it to be a big deal, though, I suppose. Maybe it's my limited worldview on sexuality. I'm still pretty young and my own sexuality has been a huge part of my life so far. Figuring it out, dealing with it, etc. I want it to be a big deal because it'd be a big deal to me. I've never experienced a s/s relationship outside of these games. I guess what I wanted was not to feel like some anomaly in these characters lives. Like it was something encountered all the time, ya know? 

 

I want the fact that these characters are in a s/s relationship to be, well, meaningful. 

 

But I also understand the significance of such a thing being a non-issue. That's the utopia, right? The goal we strive for? So I would never give that up for whatever selfish misgivings I may have, that's not fair. They just mean more to me than o/s relationships. 

 

What bugs me is the fact that if it's so commonplace in Thedas for there to be s/s couples, why do they exist mainly in alternate entertainment like the books or comics? I know DA:O had several lgb characters in it and I thought that was great! Especially for it being the first in the series! But DA2 had little to no aside from Isabela and Serendipity (who essentially existed for comedic purposes). Anders was with a man but only mentioned it to a male Hawke. 

 

Just thinking out loud. I don't have any animosity  toward Bioware or anything like that. 



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I think a lot has to do with the forums. When I first got here I felt the need to proclaim, "I am gay and I am here." There were so many threads with so much controversial stuff in them. But, realistically I have had a much harder time with male prejudice than anything else.

This is not to diminish all the work done to get us the rights we should have had all along.

Writers and story tellers need to do what they have to, to sell there good. So far Bio has done a good job in my opinion.

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