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The ingredients are more or less gunpowder, so some sort of magical kick had to be used to make it do what it did.

 

Magical offscreen magic.

 

._. Has no one asked if that is just what Qunari Powder does?

 

Physics are entirely alien within Thedas compared to our own to begin with.

 

So i'd say, There wouldn't necessarily be a need for there to "make it do what it did" when that may be what it achieves regardless.



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He choose to become an Abomination, And he decided to continue living after becoming one.

 

Thus him becoming that Heretic was his own decision.

 

Had he died he wouldn't have brought low a structure filled with Priests and other innocents.

 

:/ There is no defense for blowing up a bloody chantry.

 

Mass Murder is Mass Murder.

Yes. Which is why the Annulment must be stopped.

 

 

Magical offscreen magic.

 

._. Has no one asked if that is just what Qunari Powder does?

 

Physics are entirely alien within Thedas compared to our own to begin with.

 

So i'd say, There wouldn't necessarily be a need for there to "make it do what it did" when that may be what it achieves regardless.

We get to see those bombs go off in Finding Nathaniel; they're ordinary bombs.



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He choose to become an Abomination, And he decided to continue living after becoming one.

 

Thus him becoming that Heretic was his own decision.

 

Had he died he wouldn't have brought low a structure filled with Priests and other innocents.

 

:/ There is no defense for blowing up a bloody chantry.

 

Mass Murder is Mass Murder.

 

There is no defense in blowing up that chantry but there is plenty of defense in defying the chantry hence it doesn't matter which then.

 

Calling Anders an abomination is oversimplifying him. 

 

He is a product of hate and oppression, a fruit that blow up in face of its creator. Literally.


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Magical offscreen magic.

 

._. Has no one asked if that is just what Qunari Powder does?

 

Physics are entirely alien within Thedas compared to our own to begin with.

 

So i'd say, There wouldn't necessarily be a need for there to "make it do what it did" when that may be what it achieves regardless.

 

Anders defies gravity. Its pure magic. Deal with it. Alchemy my ... nevermind :|



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Unless you think the whole Tevinter thing is a lie. Though if it is true, Anders must have been giddy at the irony.

 

I don't know about that. Anders is religiously Andrastian (in Awakening and vanilla Dragon Age II), and even tries to persuade Merrill that she's wrong for her Dalish beliefs because they contradict the views espoused by the Andrastian faith, so I don't think he would be giddy. His opposition to the treatment of mages is his only real contention with the teachings of the Chantry. Anders also expresses remorse for his actions, is willing to accept execution, but feels that the injustice of the Circles need to be exposed to end nearly a millennia of servitude to the Chantry.

 

The divergent feelings about the Chantry controlled Circles also play a role in how some view Anders' actions. I'm certain opinion is divided about him among the mages, but I'm not sure how non-Andrastians might view him. The Dalish may be more focused on Merrill if she opposes the Knight-Commander and an army of templars to protect hundreds who are innocent of Anders' actions. If the Champion shows the mages that the templars can be defied, wouldn't Merrill's participation in stopping Meredith demonstrate the same for the People?



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We get to see those bombs go off in Finding Nathaniel; they're ordinary bombs.

 

Dwarven Explosives, Not what Anders constructed.



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Anders defies gravity. Its pure magic. Deal with it. Alchemy my ... nevermind :|

 

Pure magic that needed chemical Catalysts :lol: 

 

Its pathetic.

 

I can bring low this building! Behold! Erm wait...Not a force mage...Damn.

 

*Fires a cruise missile at it*

 

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Dwarven Explosives, Not what Anders constructed.

Which were based on the qunari design, hence why the qunari were trying to kill the designer.



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Dwarven Explosives, Not what Anders constructed.

Agreed.  Whatever the hell Anders came up with, it certainly wasn't just ordinary explosives.  He researched old Tevinter writings to find out how to make it, which tells me that this isn't anything the Qunari or dwarves came up with.  It may have used some common ingredients with most explosives, but the explosion/implosion of the Chantry itself shows that it was magic.  

 

How?  Beats me.   It's Tevinter based, so your guess is as good as mine.



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Pure magic that needed chemical Catalysts :lol:

 

Its pathetic.

 

I can bring low this building! Behold! Erm wait...Not a force mage...Damn.

 

*Fires a cruise missile at it*

 

:whistle:

 

Poop of dragon is hardly an "ingredient". Its a magical creature hence its magic. Same is the case with lyrium.



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Poop of dragon is hardly an "ingredient". Its a magical creature hence its magic. Same is the case with lyrium.

 

Uh...Drakestone is jet...A Mineral.

 

._. Aka a rock, Actually was used in Alchemy.



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Poop of dragon is hardly an "ingredient". Its a magical creature hence its magic. Same is the case with lyrium.

How exactly is a dragon a "magical creature"?  Because it doesn't exist in our world?

 

So far in DA, Dragons are just animals.



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Poop of dragon is hardly an "ingredient". Its a magical creature hence its magic. Same is the case with lyrium.

:huh:

 

It's an ingredient, as is lyrium.  Being magical has nothing to do with it.  If a recipe calls for "Two parts sulfur drakestone," the drakestone is considered an ingredient.

 

 

in·gre·di·ent

2) a component part or element of something.
 
"the affair contains all the ingredients of an insoluble mystery"
 
synonyms: constituent, component, element;
 
 
 
Would component work better?  It means the same thing...


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The ingredients are more or less gunpowder, so some sort of magical kick had to be used to make it do what it did.

I still say the magical component was the Lyrium stockpile the Chantry no doubt had underneath the building.



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How exactly is a dragon a "magical creature"?  Because it doesn't exist in our world?

 

So far in DA, Dragons are just animals.

 

Cough cough, magical blood + fire breath etc... name another animal like them, then you might convince me. BTW read drakestone codex.



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How exactly is a dragon a "magical creature"?  Because it doesn't exist in our world?

 

So far in DA, Dragons are just animals.

 

Perhaps "magical creation" was the intended word, given the comparison with lyrium, which can also be found in Thedas?



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:huh:

 

It's an ingredient, as is lyrium.  Being magical has nothing to do with it.  If a recipe calls for "Two parts sulfur drakestone," the drakestone is considered an ingredient.

 

 

 
 
Would component work better?  It means the same thing...

 

 

But you miss my point. No mundane can use Lyrium in a way the mage does. A mage can destroy a city if given enough lyrium. A mundane will stare at shiny metals and get bored :D Thus its an "alchemy" only a mage can do.



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Cough cough, magical blood + fire breath etc... name another animal like them, then you might convince me. BTW read drakestone codex.

I like the Discovery Channel thing where they described how a dragon could exist in reality with all of its powers. For example, the breathing fire would actually be more breathing napalm caused by the dragon having the chemicals in glands and sprays them simultaneously, combining them into a single stream and combusting.


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With Orlais ravaged by a civil war, the Mage-Templar War, and the Resolutionists waging their own war against the Chantry, I'm becoming more and more optimistic about the chances of a possible elven rebellion succeeding in giving the Elvhen their own homeland.

 

I'm not. Given that Celene was last heard of in Jader, her reinforcements coming down from Val Chevin and Gaspard controlling parts of southern Orlais I'm inclined to say that the elves are probably trapped between the armies of Orlais.

 

Moreover... even if they do win... what's stopping Orlais from coming after them afterwards?

 

The Dalish may be more focused on Merrill if she opposes the Knight-Commander and an army of templars to protect hundreds who are innocent of Anders' actions. If the Champion shows the mages that the templars can be defied, wouldn't Merrill's participation in stopping Meredith demonstrate the same for the People?

 

This requires two things Lobsel: One, that the Dalish see the Chantry itself as the primary enemy (similarily to how many mages do) and that they relate to the mages and their imprisonment. She must be in a position to be a hero in their eyes for them to actually care. If not... then at best she's seen as a human servant... at worst far less polite words.

 

Two: That Merrill's exile was from her own clan and that the other clans at the very least disagreed with that choice. If they in any way take Marethari's word for it... then chances are that Merrill can never return to her people (barring extraordinary cirumstance). Remember, even Fenris heard of the Arlathvhen prior to Merrill. That's telling of how isolated she was.

 

Thus... Merrill might be seen as a inspirational figure... or as a nobody... or even a traitor. Difficult to say at this point.



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I still say the magical component was the Lyrium stockpile the Chantry no doubt had underneath the building.

 

...We have the same theory  ^_^



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But you miss my point. No mundane can use Lyrium in a way the mage does. A mage can destroy a city if given enough lyrium. A mundane will stare at shiny metals and get bored :D Thus its an "alchemy" only a mage can do.

 

Your trite mage superiority complex while amusingly bigoted is also incorrect.

 

Normal Men have within them the capacity to become Enchanters, Mages cannot.

 

Also Mundane is a slur, as if there was anything innately superior with being easy to possess and having corruptible demons whispering at you every time you decide to have a nap.



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But you miss my point. No mundane can use Lyrium in a way the mage does. A mage can destroy a city if given enough lyrium. A mundane will stare at shiny metals and get bored :D Thus its an "alchemy" only a mage can do.

Dwarves could handle it, no problem.  They handle lyrium all the time, with no ill effects.  Well, as long as they don't get it in their bloodstream.

 

Plus, anyone could probably just use the magical powder already sitting in the Chantry, as someone mentioned.  You wouldn't have to work with it directly, you could just possibly find out how to make the bomb the most reactive to the lyrium.

 

...Okay, I'm getting my coffee now.  What in blazes does this have to do with a Dalish elf in Inquisition?  How the hell did I end up talking about the end of DA2, again?  Good grief, I'm looking forward to new information.  The character kits have been coming out, which is a start, but I think more lore can start leaking out any day now.



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Your trite mage superiority complex while amusingly bigoted is also incorrect.

 

Normal Men have within them the capacity to become Enchanters, Mages cannot.

 

Also Mundane is a slur, as if there was anything innately superior with being easy to possess and having corruptible demons whispering at you every time you decide to have a nap.

Actually, lyrium'll kill mundane humans; you need dwarven lyrium tolerance, so far as I know.



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O-kay... this thread has gone just a little off-topic.  :lol:

 

Maybe a good time to take this to a thread of it's own.



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Cough cough, magical blood + fire breath etc... name another animal like them, then you might convince me. BTW read drakestone codex.

You'll have to link me the codex, as I didn't find it on the wiki.

 

The codex on Dragon's blood states that it loses it's qualities when the Dragon dies, there is some sort of chemical the Dragon produces that makes it useful.

 

Fire breath can easily be biology as Hanako said.