It's important for the world to know that the Inquisition is a Dalish organization now, after all.
With an elven rebellion supported by the Inquisitor, who is building alliances across the continent, I think the Elvhen have an opportunity to forge a new future where the elves are their own masters.
If you really think that this is going to happen I have no words for you
It's important for the world to know that the Inquisition is a Dalish organization now, after all.
With an elven rebellion supported by the Inquisitor, who is building alliances across the continent, I think the Elvhen have an opportunity to forge a new future where the elves are their own masters.
Wouldn't it be something if you could put a Dalish on the throne of Orlais... 
Wouldn't it be something if you could put a Dalish on the throne of Orlais...
._. Not going to happen.
Not even likely, That blatant insanity has less chance of occurring then two concurrent blights like some fans speculate about.
._. Not going to happen.
Not even likely, That blatant insanity has less chance of occurring then two concurrent blights like some fans speculate about.
They can dream though.
Wouldn't it be something if you could put a Dalish on the throne of Orlais...
Yes, the nobility and military of Orlais are going to accept a Dalish elf as their legitimate ruler
Tevinter is but as of now Orlais isn't.
I heard it was Tevinter that was compared to the Byzantine Empire. I think they are supposed to emulate the Roman Empire on the decline, not Orlais. Orlais reminds me of medieval France when the Holy Papal was moved there for a time.
Assuming you can do so anyway.
Just because a Dalish may become an Inquisitor doesn't not automatically make the possibility of joining an elven rebellion become fact.
And with out outsider help this little rebellion assuming its not fighting for one of the other factions anyway, likely would fall flat.
Probably for the best anyway if it did.
It's written with the understanding that, in this hypothetical scenario, the Dalish Inquisitor can be proactive about the plight of the People, and aid the Elvhen.
And aside from the army of the Inquisition, the help could come in the form of uniting the clans and their city counterparts into a united front to topple the Orlesian regime from the Dales. It would be for the best if the elves had their own kingdom, where they could be more than servants or slaves.
Yes, the nobility and military of Orlais are going to accept a Dalish elf as their legitimate ruler
Yeah, I'm with you here. Baby steps: let's see if we can get them to possibly own their own land first. You know, like a farmer or rancher. Regardless of how many choices we might have deciding the fate of the elves, I think we're still a long long way off from elves ruling human lands.
Yes, the nobility and military of Orlais are going to accept a Dalish elf as their legitimate ruler
Orlais is crippled by Civil War... Gaspard and Celene meet untimely ends... and you're leading the strongest force coming in to "restore order". 
If you really think that this is going to happen I have no words for you
Your disdain for the Dalish is noted. I'm hoping that the elven rebellion can be little more than marginalized footsoldiers for one of the two Orlesian factions I could care less about.
Orlais is crippled by Civil War... Gaspard and Celene meet untimely ends... and you're leading the strongest force coming in to "restore order".
And so what? The soldiers and people left would never accept rule by an inferior race (in their eyes) just because the South got its ass handed to itself by the Union doesn't mean that all the governors were black afterwards
Your disdain for the Dalish is noted. I'm hoping that the elven rebellion can be little more than marginalized footsoldiers for one of the two Orlesian factions I could care less about.
And I'm hoping their pathetic delusions can be crushed once and for all
How about we start by making the Dalish religion legal to practice again? That seems more like a goal to start with.
@Steel As long as I get my wish with the cult the Church of Andraste to remove much of their political power, you have a deal. Sadly, neither of us will get what we want. The Dalish are here to stay and so is most of the power that the Chantry has over the human rulers of Ferelden.
And I'm hoping their pathetic delusions can be crushed once and for all
Here Here!
I'm not so certain, given the map, but I think we need more information before being certain. Perhaps this is where the Inquisition comes in, to play a role in deciding between two human nobles contesting the rule of the throne, or the elven struggle to emancipate themselves?
The Dalish historically blame the Chantry for the fall of their kingdom, they are constantly on the move because of the templars and violent Andrastians, and the elves who submitted to human rule were forced to abandon their gods and convert. I think some of the People would see the Chantry as a nemesis, and I can see Merrill becoming a hero for some of the Dalish by defying the templars at the heart of their seat of power over eastern Thedas.
I simply think it's possible. I'd certain like it if the Dalish Inquisitor could express an opinion on one of the Elvhen who took on the Knight-Commander and her entire templar army, and defied her.
On the first point: I agree, we do need more information. But remember that Orlais armies are all raised and they're fighting in the region the elves want. If the elves indeed rise up... they'll have the fight for their lives.
On the second:
Let me begin with saying that I like Merrill. A lot. I get "little sister"-vibes from her.
Yes... the elves blame the chantry... but they seem to blame humanity as a whole more. The templars are a threat, but not their primary enemy. They hound them, chase them... but I dare say that they see the Chevaliers as the true enemy. In addition, as Arianni points out... they don't seem to hold the Circles in a very high degree of trust.
They blame the Chantry yes... but I'm not sure the Chantry is the true enemy.
But I think Merrill's true obstacle is not whether the opponent was right, though it factors in, but what she did
I am not sure I can ever see Merrill being a hero to the Dalish unless she does something more. Look at what she did: She disobeyed her keeper. She, a first, left her clan behind. She dealt with a demon/wicked spirit. She left the life of the Dalish behind to live in a human city. Think of the symbolism in this. Again: She left the life of the Dalish behind. To live in a human city. What is the difference between a city elf and her in the eyes of the Dalish?
Who's going to believe her side of it? Is she even going to protest any accussation?
I am not trying to say Merrill chose the wrong thing here. I am not trying to say Marethari was blameless. I leave that for other debates. I am strictly looking at what the Dalish will think... and nothing I've ever learnt about the Dalish suggests they'd ever forgive that.
I would be happy to be disproven here. But I think, that to the Dalish, Merrill has become a city elf. Her only saving grace would be if no other clan knows...
Other than that... I think Merrill would have to martyr herself before they accepted her as one of their own again.
And that makes me sad 
Orlais is an Empire in decline. Nevarra, Ferelden, Civil War, Chantry/Templars split, Circles breaking away... and now we add the Elves and Inquisition to the mix.
When Anderfels broke off Orlais in 1:65 the empire halved in size. For all intents and purposes it looked as if Drakon's empire wouldn't survive his sons. 45 years later, the elves had burnt Montsimmard and was besieging Val Royeuax itself.
Then orlais conquered the world...
Don't count them out just yet
How about we start by making the Dalish religion legal to practice again? That seems more like a goal to start with.
A good start.
How about we start by making the Dalish religion legal to practice again? That seems more like a goal to start with.
The Dalish would likely need to do something nice for the Chantry.
Or a Regional Monarchy for them to play ball with that.
Hence my whole "Appeasement" Route.
You win over the people who can help you, and then they do help you.
Surprising isn't it?
And I'm hoping their pathetic delusions can be crushed once and for all
Crushing an elven movement to emancipate the Dales by Orlais, a nation that may be dealing with veil tears, demons, templars battling mages, and two warring factions fighting contesting the throne?
A good start.
It would be a good start, but it would also be grounds for an Exalted March from the more zealous members of the Chantry. Like Petrice.
Crushing an elven movement to emancipate the Dales by Orlais, a nation that may be dealing with veil tears, demons, templars battling mages, and two warring factions fighting contesting the throne?
Doesn't have to be done by Orlais, but it isn't impossible, the Communists and Nationalists managed to put aside their differences to fight the Japanese in China/.
Or the Inquisition itself can do it, admittedly I have no idea if this will even be an issue we can really investigate
Not that I think either destroying the elves entirely or reestablishing the Dales will be an option, but the Inquisition crushing an elven rebellion is much more plausible than the reverse.
It would be a good start, but it would also be grounds for an Exalted March from the more zealous members of the Chantry. Like Petrice.
If the elven religion is emancipated... that'd be a sign that faction is losing.
I prefer the city elves, but I'll be fine with a Dalish background so long as I have an Irish/Welsh accent (hell, get the guy who voiced Edward Kenway and I'll be an elf my first playthrough) and can oppose the Dalish culture and stuff.
Doesn't have to be done by Orlais, but it isn't impossible, the Communists and Nationalists managed to put aside their differences to fight the Japanese in China/.
Or the Inquisition itself can do it, admittedly I have no idea if this will even be an issue we can really investigate
It might be resolved entirely in the Masked Empire for all we know.
Maybe Gaspard and Celene put aside their differences and focused on the upstarting trying to destabilize the nation they both want to rule.
This doesn't bother me too much. On a personal level, I was planning a Dalish mage as Inquisitor anyway (completing my run of DA:O Rogue, DA2 Warrior, DA:I Mage). On an intellectual level, Bioware can't do everything, and City Elves are one of the less exciting things to lose. I understand that some people are going to be gutted, but when an earlier alternative was a choice of 'human, human or human', I can't really complain.
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