If the elven religion is emancipated... that'd be a sign that faction is losing.
But not less radical or willing to provoke a conflict. As Dumar says quite aptly, zealots are most comfortable in the shadows, where their arguments cannot be countered.
Could Blood Magic be used to enchant? It can be used in replace of Lyrium for a variety of purposes
That would be pretty badass if it could.
The Dalish would likely need to do something nice for the Chantry.
Or a Regional Monarchy for them to play ball with that.
Hence my whole "Appeasement" Route.
You win over the people who can help you, and then they do help you.
Surprising isn't it?
Doing something nice, like the Circle mages participating in fighting the darkspawn during the Blights, and in repelling the Qunari during the New Exalted Marches? Clearly, that's worked out so well for them. I see the same success rate with the Elvhen.
I'd rather have my Dalish Inquisitor fighting alongside his elven brethren for a homeland where the elves can truly be free. Bending knee to the Chantry doesn't interest me.
You might think the elves should appease humans who see them as less than people, but I don't.
You might think the elves should appease humans who see them as less than people, but I don't.
The elves have to appease to the humans because the humans have nothing to lose by continuing to treat the elves like trash, while the elves stand to lose quite a bit.
It's an ugly and unfortunate truth, but that's what it is.
The elves have to appease to the humans because the humans have nothing to lose by continuing to treat the elves like trash, while the elves stand to lose quite a bit.
It's an ugly and unfortunate truth, but that's what it is.
And as such, the humans have no reason to treat the elves any better. Nothing to lose by treating them as trash or subhuman.
That would be pretty badass if it could.
As long as no one taught it to Sandal.
"Dear Maker boy, what are you doing? Why are you bleeding all over Celene's things?"
"Bloody Enchantment!" <holds up a blood covered rune that appears to have no enchantment>
"<sigh> I guess it's back off to the healers again. We'll tell them you cut yourself on accident."
"But...not enchantment!"
And as such, the humans have no reason to treat the elves any better. Nothing to lose by treating them as trash or subhuman.
Only reason they have to treat the elves better is if they gained a concept of life and rights. But, that doesn't exist in Thedas.
Doesn't have to be done by Orlais, but it isn't impossible, the Communists and Nationalists managed to put aside their differences to fight the Japanese in China/.
Or the Inquisition itself can do it, admittedly I have no idea if this will even be an issue we can really investigate
The civil war in Ferelden has lead me to consider that warring factions may be willing to overlook a crisis when the throne is contested.
The developers have made it clear that the Inquisitor is presented with choices, in deciding who to side with, and what actions to take that will shape the world around you, from deciding whether to save the town or the Keep in Ferelden to choosing what to do with the dam that was mentioned at PAX. I'm would be a real shame if the elven plot was marginalized.
Only reason they have to treat the elves better is if they gained a concept of life and rights. But, that doesn't exist in Thedas.
And that is why appeasement won't work. The humans have nothing to lose by keeping elves down. But if elves made it so that humans DID have something to lose, then positive change can happen.
Not that I think either destroying the elves entirely or reestablishing the Dales will be an option, but the Inquisition crushing an elven rebellion is much more plausible than the reverse.
It would be odd to present an elven protagonist as one of the racial options, and being completely incapable of aiding an elven rebellion.
Saying that the humans treat elves as sub-human doesn't really mean much
A. Its not like humans have it easy
B. Elves aren't human in the first place
C. They are literally sub(under)-humans economically, socially, and physically
It would be odd to present an elven protagonist as one of the racial options, and being completely incapable of aiding an elven rebellion.
That we don't know will be in the game in the first place
Only reason they have to treat the elves better is if they gained a concept of life and rights. But, that doesn't exist in Thedas.
There are characters who believe in those concepts, from the historical Aldenon the Wise, who sought to establish a kingdom where all men would be equal, to the progressive King Alistair, who provides a seat at the royal court to the hahren of the Alienage so that the elves of the Alienage have a voice.
That we don't know will be in the game in the first place
Considering the latest book, the fact that the Inquisitor is Dalish and several hints have suggested we're going to Orlais at some point, it's a safe guess.
You know, you can ignore the elves all together and just play a different race. You know that, right? 
Considering the latest book, the fact that the Inquisitor is Dalish and several hints have suggested we're going to Orlais at some point, it's a safe guess.
You know, you can ignore the elves all together and just play a different race. You know that, right?
For all we know the issue can be resolved in the book, Orlais has plenty going one without adding in an elven rebellion
That we don't know will be in the game in the first place
It was addressed in retort to only being able to crush one, which makes no sense to me when one of the racial options is elven.
It was addressed in retort to only being able to crush one, which makes no sense to me when one of the racial options is elven.
It also wouldn't make sense to be able to play a blood mage who supports the Templars, but hey it happened
There are characters who believe in those concepts, from the historical Aldenon the Wise, who sought to establish a kingdom where all men would be equal, to the progressive King Alistair, who provides a seat at the royal court to the hahren of the Alienage so that the elves of the Alienage have a voice.
A few people who have such ideals does not mean it's a widely accepted one or even recognized.
For all we know the issue can be resolved in the book, Orlais has plenty going one without adding in an elven rebellion
Not for those of us who are interested in elven perspectives and stories.
Not for those of us who are interested in elven perspectives and stories.
I'm with you here. It seems like it would be a waste of a race selection spot otherwise. If everything related to the elves and Dalish in Orlais is completely resolved off-screen, then the Dalish selection would only serve to be a pointy-eared human. Pointless, and I doubt that's what the devs are wanting.
Considering that the writers have stated that the surnames are going to have lore significance, which would include the Dalish, I don't think they'd just chuck all of the elven rebellion story to an optional side novel. Bad enough that other companies do that with their IPs (ahem, Blizzard,) but so far BW has been good about not doing that.
I think you are going to be disappointed when te game comes outNot for those of us who are interested in elven perspectives and stories.
I think you are going to be disappointed when te game comes out
Are you just in the thread to be a killjoy or what?
If the writers and devs were uninterested in having players experience different races and their perspectives, we would have gone back to just a human protagonist. I don't think anyone is expecting story miracles coming out of the Inquisitor's rear end, just to have some influence and perspective on the overall story. This includes seeing things from a Dalish perspective and having influences on the greater narrative.
I'm with you here. It seems like it would be a waste of a race selection spot otherwise. If everything related to the elves and Dalish in Orlais is completely resolved off-screen, then the Dalish selection would only serve to be a pointy-eared human. Pointless, and I doubt that's what the devs are wanting.
Considering that the writers have stated that the surnames are going to have lore significance, which would include the Dalish, I don't think they'd just chuck all of the elven rebellion story to an optional side novel. Bad enough that other companies do that with their IPs (ahem, Blizzard,) but so far BW has been good about not doing that.
uh... If you two expect race choices ot have unique plots then you're going to get sorely disappointed. If there's an elven rebellion plot in, it was planned prior to race choices making their way in and it'll play the same for a human as it will for an elf. You'll do the same things, kill the same enemies and see the same cutscenes. At best you'll get unique dialogue options...
They won't have an elven rebellion plot because you can play a Dalish elf. If you're in a position to help the elves win a homeland, then all inquisitor's will be in that position.
It would be odd to present an elven protagonist as one of the racial options, and being completely incapable of aiding an elven rebellion.
That's only is you assume reconquering the Dales is the only possible outcome that could or would come from aiding elves. A new Elven Nation in the heart of human territory is unfeasible and (likely) morally problematic.
I think you are going to be disappointed when te game comes out
How come you think that?
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