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[Sir JK]

A First would make sense. The character wouldn't have the responsibility of leading the clan, but would be informed about much of the history, culture, and legends of the People. If the presumed cataclysm takes place with the First present, that character might possess some information about some of the creatures pouring out from the Beyond that no one else is privy to.

 

Lobsel... unique dialogue options... not unique university lectures

 

A dalish First/Keeper won't be dramatically different ingame than a warrior... or an Orlesian. Enough to be interesting, not enough to be a completely unqiue experience. All conversations, all plots and all interactions will be available to -all- PCs. Regardless of race or class.

 

Oh, yes, nice idea! If Keeper Gisharel is alive, it's a grand opportunity. Wait, does it mean that if we're from his clan and we are mages we would be his First?

 

Meeting Genitivi in DA:O was very interesting. He's my favourite codex source. Now, if he survives the quest for the Sacred Ashes (or even if he didn't, after what happened to Leliana), maybe he could make a cameo. The Inquisition needs good historians, so let's get Genitivi, Gisharel and Petrine!

 

Agreed.

 

Not necessarily. Aneirin the Healer was a mage, but he wasn't in the position of being First. Lanaya had to contend with several others for the position of First. Elora, the Halla tender, is a mage. That said, I think the Dalish mage being the First holds a lot of interesting possibilities.

 

Hmmm... good point. I think this is far more likely than a first. A lesser mage.

[Grieving Natashina]

I hope we are introduced to a new clan.

I've been hoping for that too.  Since I know the Dalish can be rather varied in their stances regarding humans and such, I'd like to get another perspective.

[Iron Fist]

Hmmm... good point. I think this is far more likely than a first. A lesser mage.

 

The one who was passed over for the First position would be interesting.

[Sir JK]

The one who was passed over for the First position would be interesting.

 

YES! That'd be awesome... and an excellent opportunity to portray a Dalish conflicted over Dalish society.

[Iron Fist]

I've been hoping for that too.  Since I know the Dalish can be rather varied in their stances regarding humans and such, I'd like to get another perspective.

 

Yeah, I want to see a clan that is actively pursuing good relations with nearby humans. Not just indirectly.

[mikeymoonshine]

Somehow I doubt we will be a character who lost out on being first to another mage. I think either we won't have had the chance yet or we will be the first. 

[Mistic]

Yeah, I want to see a clan that is actively pursuing good relations with nearby humans. Not just indirectly.

 

If the peace conference introduction ends up in the final game, yes, we'll see a Dalish clan interested in good relations or at least not in stupid extremism.

 

However, it if happens, we know the conference will end badly. What if the Dalish Inquisitor had to accompany their Keeper to the conference? As part of a common embassy, and as bodyguards, thus allowing us to be a Mage or a Hunter (Warrior/Rogue). The death of the embassy would ignite the Dalish's hate, convincing them to take part in the elven rebellion in Orlais, and also would give a good motivation for the Dalish protagonist if the player wishes to make use of it.

[Shelondias]

I'm down. Those Dalish have way better tattoos.

[Dean_the_Young]

If the peace conference introduction ends up in the final game, yes, we'll see a Dalish clan interested in good relations or at least not in stupid extremism.

 

However, it if happens, we know the conference will end badly. What if the Dalish Inquisitor had to accompany their Keeper to the conference? As part of a common embassy, and as bodyguards, thus allowing us to be a Mage or a Hunter (Warrior/Rogue). The death of the embassy would ignite the Dalish's hate, convincing them to take part in the elven rebellion in Orlais, and also would give a good motivation for the Dalish protagonist if the player wishes to make use of it.

 

The peace conference could just be ruined and then be put back on track later, you know. Just because an initial attempt ends badly means little.

[dragonflight288]

Is anyone interested in discussing whether the Dalish protagonist might be able to follow The Way of Three Trees (The Vir Tanadhal) or The Way of Peace (The Vir Atish'an)? I'm quite curious how the latter would be possible with an elven Inquisitor building an army and fighting the creatures pouring out of the veil tears from the Beyond.

 

That would be fascinating, and if Bioware invested in it, that might make playing as an elf a lot more fun.

 

But if they did that, I'd want just as much effort put into humans, dwarves and qunari for their own individual thing that is unique to their race. 

[Iron Fist]

The peace conference could just be ruined and then be put back on track later, you know. Just because an initial attempt ends badly means little.

 

If it failed the first time, then maybe some different people in charge (assuming the previous ones were removed for whatever reason) would have better luck.

 

Or those people that failed the first time would learn something from the experience and be able to negotiate different terms.

 

Hopefully, it doesn't follow the bumpy path of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. 

 

If the peace conference is still a plot element.

[dragonflight288]

...I did just defend Alrik against being a possible rapist just the other day

 

 

Was you defense merely sarcastic or do you actually disbelieve what we all saw right before our very eyes and the very obvious implications and subtext.

[Grieving Natashina]

 

Was you defense merely sarcastic or do you actually disbelieve what we all saw right before our very eyes and the very obvious implications and subtext.

Dragon, I wouldn't even touch that statement.  Please, just let it go for the sake of the topic.

[Inprea]

1. Vast assumptions of character randomly out of the blue isn't nice.

2. The Tranquil are not "mentally impaired" They maintain cognition enough to do complicated tasks, own businesses and conduct day to day operations along with maintaining themselves to the standard required. Add in the volition of them serving by choice and indeed you have a person who merely does not feel emotion, they are different, not inhuman.

 

  So i'd be the type to say if consent was given, it wasn't rape.

 

Their judgement has clearly been heavily impaired when they were made tranquil. We see this when a mage goes from supporting the templars to prefering death rather then live as a tranquil whenever he's back in his right mind.

 

Given the difference in mental state when they are made tranquil as compared to when they're themselves it's clear they aren't in their right state of mind and if they aren't in their right state of mind then it's rape consent or not.

[dragonflight288]

Dragon, I wouldn't even touch that statement.  Please, just let it go for the sake of the topic.

 

Will do. I was simply just shocked that was even said at all.

 

Dropping the topic like a hot potato...or a bomb that I want as far away from me as possible. 

[Grieving Natashina]

 

 

That sounds intriguing, to say the least

You missed it last night.  It got a little nuts.

[LobselVith8]

Yeah, I want to see a clan that is actively pursuing good relations with nearby humans. Not just indirectly.

Gaider mentioned some Dalish do that (in a discussion at the old board). I could see Dalish elves who pursue the Way of Peace attending the rumored peace conference.

[Grieving Natashina]

Gaider mentioned some Dalish do that (in a discussion at the old board). I could see Dalish elves who pursue the Way of Peace attending the rumored peace conference.

There's supposed to be a peace conference?  Let me guess: Asunder again, or is that snippets from the upcoming book?

[LobselVith8]

There's supposed to be a peace conference? Let me guess: Asunder again, or is that snippets from the upcoming book?

It's from the leaked survey where fans first learned about the Inquisition. It might not be part of the final game, but the developers have eluded to the player being present for a cataclysmic event that leads to the player becoming the Inquisitor; some think this may be because the player attends the peace conference.

[Grieving Natashina]

It's from the leaked survey where fans first learned about the Inquisition. It might not be part of the final game, but the developers have eluded to the player being present for a cataclysmic event that leads to the player becoming the Inquisitor; some think this may be because the player attends the peace conference.

Ah, the survey.  Gotcha.  Well, it's a neat idea at least.

[Mistic]

The peace conference could just be ruined and then be put back on track later, you know. Just because an initial attempt ends badly means little.

 

True. Like the Landsmeet or the conference in Skyrim.

 

But it means a lot, especially if the first failure kickstarts conflicts that could have been avoided otherwise. Moderate Templars and Mages coming back to the Chantry, weakening the extremists. Dalish not taking part in the elven rebellion. Celene and Gaspard reaching some kind of compromise. You know, those things the Inquisitor will surely have to solve before going on to the final main quest.

[Clockwork_Wings]

I like a variety of options and race/class combos. Each inquisitor has thier own interesting story to tell.  I don't wanna be locked into something without it making sense, like one can't be a dwarf mage because dwarves can't be mages.  The theory was that whatever event that occured did so at basically a UN meeting.  If this is true, it may stand to reason that human nobles, magisters, and mages, qunari representatives, and Dalish and Dwarves would be there, but not city elves.  Except as a servant.

 

And wouldn't that be a fun story?

 

Yesterday, I was sweeping your floors and carrying your luggage.  Today, I'm saving the world.

[Mistic]

And wouldn't that be a fun story?

 

Yesterday, I was sweeping your floors and carrying your luggage.  Today, I'm saving the world.

 

It would be a nice story, yeah. That's why I liked the Dwarven Casteless and the City Elf origins so much. Sadly, we won't get that. The Masked Empire, however, is going to have several points of view.

 

Talking about that, the Dalish Inquisitor is going to have it rough to convince many of his or her fellows to join the war effort. Where are the ancient binding treaties when you need them? Maybe we should ask Flemeth again

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It would be a nice story, yeah. That's why I liked the Dwarven Casteless and the City Elf origins so much. Sadly, we won't get that. The Masked Empire, however, is going to have several points of view.

 

Talking about that, the Dalish Inquisitor is going to have it rough to convince many of his or her fellows to join the war effort. Where are the ancient binding treaties when you need them? Maybe we should ask Flemeth again

She will only help you after you kill your first Ogre.

[Mistic]

She will only help you after you kill your first Ogre.

 

Damn, it's true. We'll know if ogre-hunting becomes a tradition. Or maybe Morrigan will help us. Last time a main character impressed her, she wanted expensive jewellery.