Who Is That Mysterious Mage?
#351
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 03:33
#352
Guest_Terrian_*
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 06:52
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I don't know why "he is bald" instantly becomes the basis for "he is ugly", which apparently is equal with "he is boring and must not exist". I am against all companions (and LIs, for that matter) being "hot and beautiful", so I wouldn't care one way or the other if any of them ends up being ugly.
(And beauty is in the eye of the beholder, anyways.)
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#353
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 07:43
It's not, it's just further along than the concepts were. That's how we roll.
I shall put a hat on him.
#354
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 08:27
So...a character who you don't know anything about other than the fact he's bald seems "boring"?
Yeah, go figure.
I'd suggest waiting until, I don't know, we reveal a little more about his character before you decide you know everything about him and his place in the story. For all you know, he could eventually end up being your favorite character in Inquisition.
Novel to see a male character's appearance being picked over, however. Must be because he's an elf.
honestly what where you expecting its the internet...
#355
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 09:03
It's not, it's just further along than the concepts were. That's how we roll.
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i guess its still a chance for BW adding hair on his head.
Then he is LI, and I am happy. Just tired of those pretty Anders/Kaiden-like LIs. I prefer them more...interesting and less..american pretty boy.
Regardless, much more interested in him than the other three confirmed characters.
Don´t you think people would be more positivie if he had hair?
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#356
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 09:10
Something tells me that he might be one of my favourite companions. I especially liked him in the "War Room" concept art.
And people... really, why does it matter if he's bald? That's quite normal.
#357
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 09:14
Yah know I just checked DG's posts here and I'm wondering - do people just like dev posts because they're devs? It's not just his it's all the devs. If a dev is reading this would one of you please post just "poop"? I wanna see if my theory is correct.
The bald mage correlates with the Tevinter magister yeah? It'll be nice to have a magister's perspective on stuff for once.
#358
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 09:23
The bald mage correlates with the Tevinter magister yeah? It'll be nice to have a magister's perspective on stuff for once.
Some think he is, others think the elf is an apostate and the magister is another character entirely.
#359
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 11:34
And then NOT romanceable.
I don't know enough about him to make a judgement yet. I'll have to wait 'till I can chat with him in game.
He does look like the polar opposite of Vivienne, fashion-wise, which should be amusing.
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#360
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 11:58
I don't know why "he is bald" instantly becomes the basis for "he is ugly", which apparently is equal with "he is boring and must not exist". I am against all companions (and LIs, for that matter) being "hot and beautiful", so I wouldn't care one way or the other if any of them ends up being ugly.
(And beauty is in the eye of the beholder, anyways.)
When I was doing "research" for my Bald Hawke post on Tumblr, I actually came across a list of traits bald men were frequently associated with. Guess what? Being "ugly" and "boring" were both on the list.
It's a predictable stereotype.
#361
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 02:51
I think he looks cool, and I believe that he is from Tevinter because his outfits in the blog pic look sort of like the Tevinter Mage outfits in HoDA. If that one concept art picture is an indication of his typical deportment (ignoring the details of his features), I think I will like him. He looks amused or confident.
That's interesting, I hadn't even bothered to check there.


There's also supposed to be a Tevinter Laetan Mage but I can't find any pictures online.
#362
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 03:12
The Tevinter Laetan Mage from HoDA also looks pretty similar to one of Elf Mage's outfits in some concept art:


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#364
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 03:33
The Tevinter Laetan Mage from HoDA also looks pretty similar to one of Elf Mage's outfits in some concept art:
This make the Tevinter-magister more...probable. Good find!
Im very excited.
I am guessing the next characterkit will be him. He is almost 100 % confirmed now.
#365
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Posté 08 mars 2014 - 03:36
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When I was doing "research" for my Bald Hawke post on Tumblr, I actually came across a list of traits bald men were frequently associated with. Guess what? Being "ugly" and "boring" were both on the list.
It's a predictable stereotype.
I'm not exactly known for conforming to, or being even aware of the existence of, "normal" viewpoints regarding most things in life. It's probably one of those moments.
But really, it's funny how stereotypes work. Where I live baldness in men is normally associated with being wise, physically strong and ultra manly, all of which are very desirable traits.
This make the Tevinter-magister more...probable. Good find!
Im very excited.
I am guessing the next characterkit will be him. He is almost 100 % confirmed now.
I think for the next character kit, the Inquisitor's iconic armor (the one with the red sash, black coat and dragon helmet) is more probable. I'll be glad to be wrong though.
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#366
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 03:55
I was just thinking also, it's entirely possible that Bald Elf Mage *was* an outcast magister who had to seek safety with a group of apostates. There's nothing in that concept art that hints at where he came from before joining the camp that was attacked.
I'm not sure whether it was addressed in the games, but given Tevinter's international reputation, surely the Templars wouldn't be very happy with a magister walking around freely. They go after apostates and hedge mages without a second thought, so why would any mage outside a Circle be left alone?
I'm probably totally wrong though.
#367
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 04:06
Or he can just be a pretentious ass.
That would be a nice change of pace really. A power-hungry elf.
#368
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 04:15
A power-hungry elf.
Yes please.
#369
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 04:42
I was just thinking also, it's entirely possible that Bald Elf Mage *was* an outcast magister who had to seek safety with a group of apostates. There's nothing in that concept art that hints at where he came from before joining the camp that was attacked.
I'm not sure whether it was addressed in the games, but given Tevinter's international reputation, surely the Templars wouldn't be very happy with a magister walking around freely. They go after apostates and hedge mages without a second thought, so why would any mage outside a Circle be left alone?
I'm probably totally wrong though.
I agree that templars would see an outcast magister as an apostate. But I don't think it is him in the concept art you are referring to. Check the ears... that's a human.
#370
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 05:48
Don´t you think people would be more positivie if he had hair?
We don't design characters based solely on how attractive people think they will be... and that's "attractive" as in "conventionally attractive", as what someone finds attractive will vary according to the individual. If we did design characters to be conventionally attractive, then every female LI would be a buxom blonde.
But not every character is a LI. And, even for those that are, the art team is going to design their appearance to be interesting and tied to the actual character themselves...they'll go for presence before they go for attractiveness. Take a look at what Casper Konefal, one of our concept artists, wrote about the subject in his blog.
So, no, we don't particularly care how positive people are. I realize that a couple of old concepts, a blurry image of his back, and a somewhat-less-old t-pose model is all you really have to speculate on at the moment--so you'll do what you do--but if the idea is that all characters exist to first be pretty no matter their role in the game...then that's simply not the case. Even for a character that's a LI, if they're someone you don't personally find attractive...oh well? Guess you'll have to find someone else or go without.
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#371
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 05:59
He could have fangs, until Bioware releases his Character Kit we can't discount anything about his physical Appearance.I've been peeking at some shots of Nosferatu (1922) ... OK, I can see the resemblance a BIT. "Nosforelftu" is still making me chuckle.
But he doesn't have fangs.
#372
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 06:29
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#373
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 06:34
Don´t you think people would be more positivie if he had hair?
What, and ruin a potential Bald of Awesome? ![]()
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#374
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 06:54
We don't design characters based solely on how attractive people think they will be... and that's "attractive" as in "conventionally attractive", as what someone finds attractive will vary according to the individual. If we did design characters to be conventionally attractive, then every female LI would be a buxom blonde.
But not every character is a LI. And, even for those that are, the art team is going to design their appearance to be interesting and tied to the actual character themselves...they'll go for presence before they go for attractiveness. Take a look at what Casper Konefal, one of our concept artists, wrote about the subject in his blog.
So, no, we don't particularly care how positive people are. I realize that a couple of old concepts, a blurry image of his back, and a somewhat-less-old t-pose model is all you really have to speculate on at the moment--so you'll do what you do--but if the idea is that all characters exist to first be pretty no matter their role in the game...then that's simply not the case. Even for a character that's a LI, if they're someone you don't personally find attractive...oh well? Guess you'll have to find someone else or go without.
Yeah, I do agree. But still. Just add hair, and people would swoon. I so far Im interested in him... But I would prob be over the top excited if he had hair. Im not judging his personality or the potensial awesomeness. Its just...hair. I guess I have an issue with hair, or lack thereof. I guess Im a superficial fangirl. ![]()
My favorite romance ever is Thane. And he was not attractive first time I "met him". (although I did - kinda disturbing - found him extremely attractive throughout the game.) . And I am happy you dont have supersexy stereotypical LIs. So I am not ruling this bald elf out.
#375
Posté 08 mars 2014 - 07:17
We don't design characters based solely on how attractive people think they will be... and that's "attractive" as in "conventionally attractive", as what someone finds attractive will vary according to the individual. If we did design characters to be conventionally attractive, then every female LI would be a buxom blonde.
But not every character is a LI. And, even for those that are, the art team is going to design their appearance to be interesting and tied to the actual character themselves...they'll go for presence before they go for attractiveness. Take a look at what Casper Konefal, one of our concept artists, wrote about the subject in his blog.
So, no, we don't particularly care how positive people are. I realize that a couple of old concepts, a blurry image of his back, and a somewhat-less-old t-pose model is all you really have to speculate on at the moment--so you'll do what you do--but if the idea is that all characters exist to first be pretty no matter their role in the game...then that's simply not the case. Even for a character that's a LI, if they're someone you don't personally find attractive...oh well? Guess you'll have to find someone else or go without.
For what it's worth, I love Casper Konefal's approach so far - and the idea of designing characters' visual appearance to match their role in the story, or personality type, is far more interesting than making them as attractive as possible. I'd much prefer visual design that reinforces what you're trying to say about the character (as writers and artists), instead of an outward appearance that takes prettiness as the first priority.





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