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[Jaison1986]

With heavy hitter games like Inquisition coming, I decided to pimp my computer to be strong enough to handle games of such level. However, I installed Metro 2033 on my computer and noticed the game still lags a little bit on certain areas, especially ones with dense ambient effects, such as fogs and the like. So I would like to have some technical advice from gamers who have these kind of games and know if I'm ready or if I still need to improve. My specs are:

 

GTX 760 graphic card

Intel Core i7 processor 3770

8 GB of memory kingston

HD 2 tb seagate

ASUS mother board P8H61

 

Sorry in advance if this section of the thread is not the right place for these kind of topics.

[bmwcrazy]

Your CPU is definitely fast enough for those games.

 

If you want to increase its performance, you'll have to upgrade the video card.

[Chris]

Most likely high settings or maybe highest at at around 35 -40 fps if you're lucky (AA is excluded), it's very hard to tell in advance since it all comes down to how optimized Inquisition is, 2033 on the other hand is known for it's terrible optimization where even cards like 780's etc can get pretty low fps,

760 is a nice mid range card and very good for it's price and if highest setting doesn't matter then you don't really need to upgrade just yet..

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

To get a PC as powerful as a car. For that, you should pay the price of a (cheap) car: 5000$!

JK, 1500$ (home assembled) PCs are overkill for most of current video games.

 

Set AA at 4x or 2x and you'll have a clean enough graphic. 8x and 16x AA just overuse and exhaust your PC and Graphic card, lower their lifetime and framerate. Just like 'shadows' in game that are useless and only consuming more power and lower FR.

 

The most important aspects of graphic in video games are 1) Resolution: should be max available on your monitor 2) Texture details: should be set on 'very high'.

[Fredward]

Over 9000.

[mybudgee]

How powerful your computer be must?

[NekkidNones]

With specs like that, the only thing I would be tempted to change would be the HDD. I you have got spare cash, and the spare time.
I would be looking at some solid state drives (SSD's), planning out what products, and what services I want on a new ssd master drive. A 2TB HDD is perfect as a slave drive. Plus being a 2TB drive, I am willing to bet it is a 5400rpm drive.
Not a requirement by any means, and reinstalling an OS, and modifying services and functions to operate in a ssd friendly manner can be tricky. But, nothing beats it's loading and access times.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

So are these SSDs just make 'starting/shutting down' windows faster or have an actual impact in programs and video games by using more RAM and CPU?

[Chris]

Your PC boots up faster with an SSD drive, programs starts also up faster assuming the files is located on your SSD same goes for games, an SSD can decrease ingame loading in some cases as well.

 

RAM etc can sort of benefit from it as well since your memory try to load as much into them as possible for a "storage" purpose so your programs can accessed faster since most HDD's are relatively slow, an SSD on other hand is much faster and can take some heat of your RAM.

 

It's not a "must have" like some people would have you believe but it's nice if loading bothers you like me who have like no patience at all.

[naughty99]

So are these SSDs just make 'starting/shutting down' windows faster or have an actual impact in programs and video games by using more RAM and CPU?

They have become practically a necessity if you work with very large files in Adobe creative suite applications, and they also dramatically reduce the boot/shutdown times, and generally make all your programs snappier.

 

In games the benefit is mainly the reduction of loading screens. I believe they may also improve the performance slightly for games with large texture files, like id Tech engine games, or heavily modded skyrim textures.

 

I understand there are also lots of options for hybrid HDD with SSD caching, which are much less expensive but provide similar results.

[Endurium]

Inquisition doesn't look better than my modded Skyrim (subjective opinion) so hopefully Bioware's modified Dice engine is optimized because my Skyrim runs great with an i7-965 (original Nehalem) and GTX780 Ti, and I expect DA:I to run at least as fast based on what I've seen in the recent trailer.

 

Since my eye/brain still process DoF normally, I disable DoF in games whenever possible, which further increases framerate. In fact, I disable blur for everything but spell effects; game looks and performs better as a result. Heck, nearly half my options in Witcher 2 are disabled because all they do is blur the graphics in some manner.

 

As I recall Metro 2033 has been used in benchmarking on some sites, so it's probably got a reputation for being a bit more taxing.

[ObserverStatus]

With specs like that, the only thing I would be tempted to change would be the HDD. I you have got spare cash, and the spare time.
I would be looking at some solid state drives (SSD's), planning out what products, and what services I want on a new ssd master drive. A 2TB HDD is perfect as a slave drive. Plus being a 2TB drive, I am willing to bet it is a 5400rpm drive.
Not a requirement by any means, and reinstalling an OS, and modifying services and functions to operate in a ssd friendly manner can be tricky. But, nothing beats it's loading and access times.

My 2TB HDD is a 7200 RPM drive, to they even make 5400 rpm drives anymore?

[ruggly]

You should be fine, but you can look up benchmarks for games as well to see how yours will compare.

 

I run on a:

GTX 660 TI

8 gigs ram

i5 4670k

z87-g45 motherboard

 

and I would be able to run BF4 on high.

[bmwcrazy]

My 2TB HDD is a 7200 RPM drive, to they even make 5400 rpm drives anymore?

 

Many 2.5" HDDs are still 5400 RPM. There are also a couple 3.5" HDDs that are 5400 RPM.

 

For example, WD's Green, Red, and the new 2.5" "Black 2" hybrid drive spin around that speed. Seagate has a 5900 RPM 4TB drive.

 

But yeah, they are becoming rare. The 3TB HDDs I bought over a year ago for $90 a pop were 7200 RPM and so were the 4TB Black HDDs that I bought around Christmas.

[NekkidNones]

My 2TB HDD is a 7200 RPM drive, to they even make 5400 rpm drives anymore?

Eeer...yea, you be right. Spat out the 5400rpm bit of habit I guess. I was thinking about WD green drives for some reason. Meh..doesn't really change the benefit that an SSD can bring to a system, regardless of whether its replacing a 5400 or 7200. Sure it's easily measurable, but it is still a night an day difference.

Again, it won't be a requirement for games. But a improvement to the system as a whole. Lowers operating temperatures, electricity use, access times blah blah blah..you know the drill.

[SwobyJ]

Sorry to bump in, but does this sound good too?

 

GPU - Radeon HD 7870

CPU - Intel Core i5-2500 CPU @ 3.30GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.6GHz

RAM - 8GG

 

I'd love to be able to play Inquisition on max settings (or at least very high), and hopefully the next Mass game. After that, I don't care, as I'd very likely be upgrading by some point in 2015-2016.

[Chris]

Wait for Nvidia 800 series and grab a GTX 870 or something or if you must, AMD's equivalent but i'm going say that Nvidias price/peformance have always been great in the 70 range like 670 and 770.

 

No need to rush to buy a new card,it's better to take time and look over your options before grabbing a new gpu.

[bmwcrazy]

Wait for Nvidia 800 series and grab a GTX 870 or something or if you must, AMD's equivalent but i'm going say that Nvidias price/peformance have always been great in the 70 range like 670 and 770.

 

No need to rush to buy a new card,it's better to take time and look over your options before grabbing a new gpu.

 

I'm also waiting for the new nVidia Maxwell flagship GPU. I'm still using my GTX 680 at the moment.

 

I have a feeling that it is still months away before it's ready for production.

[Chris]

Yeah, they said Q1 2014 last time i heard but personally i expect them after summer some time so they can bundle it with Witcher 3 when you buy an Nvidia GPU , seems like a likely business strategy  to me especially since they collaborate with CD Projekt now, graphic hype !

 

I think i can wait 2 years before upgrading again although it would be tempting to buy a GTX 890 if they release one.

[Jaison1986]

Thanks for all the advice guys. Though I noticed another problem that all my games are radomly crashing after playing for half an hour. I can't even play my games properly anymore. I don't know if it's an memory issue, though it's supposed to be working perfectly. Maybe I should try unistalling my games, see if it makes an difference?

[NekkidNones]

Just came across this video on SSD's in my subcriptions.  Figure it may be of interest to a few people here.

 

First Overclocked SSD: Intel 730!

I for one never even heard or thought about overclocking SSD's.  featured SSD is apparently on sale, but I suspect that is more of a sponsorship thing.  Meh, whateves.  info is info.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Just came across this video on SSD's in my subcriptions.  Figure it may be of interest to a few people here.

 

First Overclocked SSD: Intel 730!

I for one never even heard or thought about overclocking SSD's.  featured SSD is apparently on sale, but I suspect that is more of a sponsorship thing.  Meh, whateves.  info is info.

 

Never ever overclock anything, unless you don't care for the lifetime of your devices and have thousands of Dollars/Euros in your bank account.

In this case plus if you don't care about your Data being exterminated.

[NekkidNones]

Never ever overclock anything, unless you don't care for the lifetime of your devices and have thousands of Dollars/Euros in your bank account.
In this case plus if you don't care about your Data being exterminated.

I tend to agree. However learning how it is done, or more importantly, a bit on how an SSD works and is structured; is the true value.

With that said. The overclocking that is being referred to in the video, is something that Intel themselves have done to the SSD discussed. They took a design for an enterprise SSD, and modified it for a consumer model.

Since it is done by the manufacturer, and is covered under warranty, the concern is invalid in this instance.