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[JerZey CJ]

A simple question. I feel like it may have been answered before, but googling it didn't help me.

[OdanUrr]

That is very unlikely. After all, EA already has a platform to distribute their games digitally.

[Chris]

No EA are done with Steam and they didn't develop their new client so they could release elsewhere most likely, in future maybe they'll co-operate with steam like Origin and Uplay does if EA and Valve ever find common ground.

No one knows but i don't hope it personally and even if the highly unlikely should happen and they'll distribute it on steam expect something similar to Ubisoft/Steam, buy and download from steam but it'll require a uplay account to play it which makes it quite pointless imo.

[The Antagonist]

No

[llandwynwyn]

I'll be there the day Half-Life 3 appears on the origin library.

[Navasha]

I would rate the chance as only marginally higher than 'zero' percent.    EA no longer has a need for Steam.   It was one thing when they didn't have the means to really take advantage of the digital distribution market and could utilize Steams existing infrastructure.   That is no longer the case. 

 

Steam might have a few more users who might refuse to use Origin on whatever basis, but those few lost customers wouldn't compare to the 20-30% commission they would have to pay to Steam for each sale. 

 

So unless they work out some kind of resource trading agreement or something to mitigate costs somewhere, I don't see it happening.     It would be like expecting McDonalds to also sell the Whopper because a small group of people don't want to drive to Burger King on the other side of town.

[Wulfram]

Not unless Steam and EA can come to an agreement on how DLC should be sold, which doesn't seem imminent.

 

Origin isn't inherently a bar.  You can buy Uplay stuff via Steam

[SNascimento]

I'll be there the day Half-Life 3 appears on the origin library.

You could have stopped on "appears". 

[Splinter Cell 108]

Give it 5 years, when Origin is getting shut off, you'll see it on Steam then.

[Enad]

If only.

[wolfsite]

It all comes down to getting an agreement on how DLC is handled with Steam versions of games.

 

EA are hardly done with Steam as they do release games that get complete editions on it.

 

They also still participate in Steam sales and in the most recent Humble Bundle (Popcap) they give you Origin and Steam codes for all the games.

 

So they still do business with Steam, it's just the issue with how Steam wants DLC handled that is causing issues with certain games appearing on it.

[Anvos]

All signs point to NO considering DA2 still isn't back on Steam, plus they seem to like their Origin thingy.

[N0rke]

I imagine it might pop on steam if they do an ultimate edition of Dragon Age: Inquisition, but seeing as DA2 didn't get one I find it highly unlikely DAI will.

[Sanunes]

It all comes down to getting an agreement on how DLC is handled with Steam versions of games.

 

EA are hardly done with Steam as they do release games that get complete editions on it.

 

They also still participate in Steam sales and in the most recent Humble Bundle (Popcap) they give you Origin and Steam codes for all the games.

 

So they still do business with Steam, it's just the issue with how Steam wants DLC handled that is causing issues with certain games appearing on it.

 

That is my understanding as well, for when EA decided to stop using (or was forced) all their existing games are still on Steam except for the few that had new DLC developed for it.

[Battlebloodmage]

I think they will be available once Diablo 3 can play offline on PC. 

[Kateish]

I thought the whole EA and Steam thing had been sorted? I noticed that they finally brought back The Sims 3 and 'the never ending story' of DLC that comes with it.

[naughty99]

It may be a pipe dream, but we can dream of a day when all the Bioware games and DLC can be purchased during a Steam sale for cash money rather than Bioware points.

[Sanunes]

I thought the whole EA and Steam thing had been sorted? I noticed that they finally brought back The Sims 3 and 'the never ending story' of DLC that comes with it.

 

There is a major difference between The Sims and any other EA product and that is how DLC is handled.  Unlike any other EA game each Sims addon is sold like an expansion instead of how DLC is sold and unless EA changes their DLC model to sell like an expansion for all their DLC there is going to be the issue still.

[Nightdragon8]

It all comes down to getting an agreement on how DLC is handled with Steam versions of games.

 

EA are hardly done with Steam as they do release games that get complete editions on it.

 

They also still participate in Steam sales and in the most recent Humble Bundle (Popcap) they give you Origin and Steam codes for all the games.

 

So they still do business with Steam, it's just the issue with how Steam wants DLC handled that is causing issues with certain games appearing on it.

well thats because of the BioWare points thing that was going on, where you had to "Buy points" in order to buy the DLC,

 

At the time EA broke there agreement because of that, because I think the contract was that Steam was the one to sell the DLC, however because of the way BW did there DLC buying it completely bypassed Steam.

 

Thus broke the contract which is why you don't see alot of EA stuff on steam.

[Sanunes]

well thats because of the BioWare points thing that was going on, where you had to "Buy points" in order to buy the DLC,

 

At the time EA broke there agreement because of that, because I think the contract was that Steam was the one to sell the DLC, however because of the way BW did there DLC buying it completely bypassed Steam.

 

Thus broke the contract which is why you don't see alot of EA stuff on steam.

 

Yes and no.  Steam changed their policies so you had to sell DLC through Steam or you couldn't use them anymore so the first EA game that released DLC after that policy change was Crysis 2 and then Dragon Age 2 a short while later and as soon as that DLC was released those games disappeared.  You can still buy Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 2 off Steam and those require the use of BioWare Points.

[Zack_Nero]

No, I think you need to use Origins instead of Steam if you want it for PC, or buy it for a PC disc.

[Wires_From_The_Wall]

I would rate the chance as only marginally higher than 'zero' percent.    EA no longer has a need for Steam.   It was one thing when they didn't have the means to really take advantage of the digital distribution market and could utilize Steams existing infrastructure.   That is no longer the case. 

 

Steam might have a few more users who might refuse to use Origin on whatever basis, but those few lost customers wouldn't compare to the 20-30% commission they would have to pay to Steam for each sale. 

 

So unless they work out some kind of resource trading agreement or something to mitigate costs somewhere, I don't see it happening.     It would be like expecting McDonalds to also sell the Whopper because a small group of people don't want to drive to Burger King on the other side of town.

Steam might have a few more users 

might have a few more users

 a few more users

 few more

 few

 

Despite 30% of the revenue from each and every game released via Steam still going to Valve,  I'm quite sure it would still be much more profitable for EA than anything they make via Origin.  Steam is entirely on it's own ballpark when it comes to amount of users,customers,visibility and literally everything else.  

 

Of course, EA knows this perfectly well as well. It's just that they trust on benefits to value of the brand. Maybe they still have some measure of hope for future of  Origin eventually growing little brighter. Back when Origin was designed and launched, they had hopes to manage some sort of a high level of integration with at least one of the new gen consoles. I wager this was the original reason EA  ever had  any desires to give Origin a shot in first place - It would have brought EA  to turf far removed from Valve's territory. 

 

There are so many people who  browse through Steam daily or semi-daily out of habit. I'm not sure if a  person who'd do the same with Origin exists.  When you know some 80 euro costing AAA game you just have to have has just been released by EA, you perhaps log in to Origin once. You buy it, download it and end up feeling dirty afterwards and try to forget Origin exists. Until it is time to bend over and repeat the shameful process. 

 

I'm predicting EA games will be back on Steam within 3 years.

[Sanunes]

Steam might have a few more users 

might have a few more users

 a few more users

 few more

 few

 

Despite 30% of the revenue from each and every game released via Steam still going to Valve,  I'm quite sure it would still be much more profitable for EA than anything they make via Origin.  Steam is entirely on it's own ballpark when it comes to amount of users,customers,visibility and literally everything else.  

 

Of course, EA knows this perfectly well as well. It's just that they trust on benefits to value of the brand. Maybe they still have some measure of hope for future of  Origin eventually growing little brighter. Back when Origin was designed and launched, they had hopes to manage some sort of a high level of integration with at least one of the new gen consoles. I wager this was the original reason EA  ever had  any desires to give Origin a shot in first place - It would have brought EA  to turf far removed from Valve's territory. 

 

There are so many people who  browse through Steam daily or semi-daily out of habit. I'm not sure if a  person who'd do the same with Origin exists.  When you know some 80 euro costing AAA game you just have to have has just been released by EA, you perhaps log in to Origin once. You buy it, download it and end up feeling dirty afterwards and try to forget Origin exists. Until it is time to bend over and repeat the shameful process. 

 

I'm predicting EA games will be back on Steam within 3 years.

 

The funny thing about people browsing Steam, I don't do it anymore with all the garbage they are trying to peddle anymore with the Project Greenlight and Early Access, it really feels like an EA tactic with showing half finished games with misleading descriptions and modified comments to get a person to buy the game. The only time I go to Steam is when I get an email telling me one of the games on my watch list has gone on sale or I am adding a game to my watch list.  I used to browse it once a day, but almost everything they are trying to sell are games that I have no interest in.

 

We really don't know the digital sales numbers and if EA has gotten 70% of the people that bought the games in the past to move to Origin they aren't going anywhere, especially if the reason why they left is that Steam was demanding them to sell product a certain way. It could be even less of a percentage if they were going to lose 30% of the DLC value as well because that was at 100% before.

[superdeathdealer14]

I highly doubt it.

[Navasha]

@wires - What I mean by a few more users is that small minority of people who refuse to use Origin.   I am on Steam and have a massive library of games there.    However, I and most others aren't going to refuse to buy an Origin only exclusive.    So when I say 'few'.   It is referring only to those people who wouldn't use Origin to get a game like DA:I.    A consumer doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.    I can eat at McDonalds AND Burger King.

 

You are right that I only use Origin for those exclusive games as I feel they are rather on the expensive side for games that are more than a year old.   I can pick up most 1-2 year old games on Steam for $5-$10 bucks where Origin still tries to get full price.    However, a AAA title like DA:I bought on Day 1 is going to be the same price on Steam and Origin, so I see no conflict in using Origin.    For the most part EA games also tend to be genres that I care nothing about, ie Sports/Military shooters/The Sims.