There are so many people who browse through Steam daily or semi-daily out of habit. I'm not sure if a person who'd do the same with Origin exists..
I'll be there the day Half-Life 3 appears on the origin library.
The feels bro.
On the bright side HF3 might be amazing when it comes to fruition. Imagine the Door shattering mechanics (gurgle)gurrrghrrrrr
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I hope so - I finally relented and gave Origin a try a few months back and had an absolute nightmare trying to get ME3 to download from disc. Steam is a much better platform.
I hope so - I finally relented and gave Origin a try a few months back and had an absolute nightmare trying to get ME3 to download from disc. Steam is a much better platform.
Odd, I have had an easier time with Origin then I have with Steam for disk based installs. I do know several of my friends had a minor issue with Origin because of version conflicts, so they just installed Origin from the internet and then installed the game without any issue.
If they ever go back to Steam, expect the same garbage that we experience with Assassin's Creed or any Ubisoft game which forces us to use both Steam and Uplay at the same time. I have issues with the two programs conflicting with one another and causing issues such as deleting my saves.
Why did EA find the need for their own exclusive online store? What was the point?
Why did EA find the need for their own exclusive online store? What was the point?
The almighty dollar. Less in Valve's pocket is more in EA's pocket.
Hmm... I can't imagine the profit would be big enough to justify the money put into creating Origin. I'd have to see the charts, but I doubt they'd let me. 
Considering EA's failed atempt to Buyout Valve a year or so ago (Thank The Maker!) I imagine a lot of bad blood between the two. So very unlikely.
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Odd, I have had an easier time with Origin then I have with Steam for disk based installs. I do know several of my friends had a minor issue with Origin because of version conflicts, so they just installed Origin from the internet and then installed the game without any issue.
If they ever go back to Steam, expect the same garbage that we experience with Assassin's Creed or any Ubisoft game which forces us to use both Steam and Uplay at the same time. I have issues with the two programs conflicting with one another and causing issues such as deleting my saves.
I certainly hope it will be on Steam. I still can't choose my preferred language in the Origin store and I've seen youtubers unable to play a game because either Origin or EA's servers won't allow them far too often.
Having to go through Origin to play this game is certainly a big mark in the con-list.
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Why would EA care about that? It's not like gamers won't know DA:I is out there. I agree that an indie game with zero marketing would benefit from Steam, but DA:I?
Nope. EA has decided that the Steam platform is 'too limited', esp. in regards to its rules on patching. Thus, like all other new EA titles, it will be exclusive to Origin.
Again as stated a few times in the post, when Valve eases the retriction on how DLC is handled on Steam you will see more of EA's newer games on Steam.
Just FYI: By forcing companies to sell DLC on Steam Valve gets a nice cut of those profits so they are essentially limiting the consumers ability to choose and increasing there financial marjins. Plus if EA tried this stunt I'm sure everyone would be screaming bloody murder... but hey it's Valve so that makes it OK.
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No. Furthermore, about people discussing DLC, I doubt that is really the reason why EA and Valve aren't working together. That might be the reason they provided to the public, but the real reason is that EA wants Steam's cut and thinks that they can do Steam's job. And they are right. Origin is about to finally blow up and arrive in a big way, with many millions of more users in the next week, when Titanfall releases.
No, EA is fully committed to using their software to drive their digital storefront and I'm sure DAI will be no exception to that.
No. Furthermore, about people discussing DLC, I doubt that is really the reason why EA and Valve aren't working together. That might be the reason they provided to the public, but the real reason is that EA wants Steam's cut and thinks that they can do Steam's job. And they are right. Origin is about to finally blow up and arrive in a big way, with many millions of more users in the next week, when Titanfall releases.
No, EA is fully committed to using their software to drive their digital storefront and I'm sure DAI will be no exception to that.
The problem is I just don't see EA wanting Valve's cut especially since from what I understand its still less then what they need to spend for a boxed copy, now it might be part of the factor to why they won't return to Steam. The issue I have with the easy dismissal of DLC being at least the catalyst to the division between the two companies is that two games were ever removed from Steam, for me if EA was purely interested in Valve's cut all their games would have disappeared and not just two games that only disappeared when new DLC was released and since The Sims always sold new content in an "expansion model" and not through the game itself its still on Steam.
I think there is a lot more then a simple DLC misunderstanding or EA wants Valve's cut going on here.
The problem is I just don't see EA wanting Valve's cut especially since from what I understand its still less then what they need to spend for a boxed copy, now it might be part of the factor to why they won't return to Steam. The issue I have with the easy dismissal of DLC being at least the catalyst to the division between the two companies is that two games were ever removed from Steam, for me if EA was purely interested in Valve's cut all their games would have disappeared and not just two games that only disappeared when new DLC was released and since The Sims always sold new content in an "expansion model" and not through the game itself its still on Steam.
I think there is a lot more then a simple DLC misunderstanding or EA wants Valve's cut going on here.
One of the games that was removed (Crysis 2) returned to Steam once a complete package was released (Crysis 2 Maximum Edition). This does show that DLC is a major factor.
EA also still offers Steam Codes for there games in Humble Bundles (The first EA Origin Bundle and the PopCap Bundle) if EA wanted to force people over to Origin they could have easily made those Bundles all Origin only so the evidence is there that they want to work with Valve/Steam.
Speaking of Origin, I just checked the EA website, and it doesn't show Windows 8/8.1 as a compatible system. I was contemplating getting a new computer, with Windows 8.1, before the game comes out. With my technological deficiencies, can anyone provide some info about Origin and Windows 8.1? I only say this because many new laptops don't seem to have the DVD drive. Thanks.
Speaking of Origin, I just checked the EA website, and it doesn't show Windows 8/8.1 as a compatible system. I was contemplating getting a new computer, with Windows 8.1, before the game comes out. With my technological deficiencies, can anyone provide some info about Origin and Windows 8.1? I only say this because many new laptops don't seem to have the DVD drive. Thanks.
I’m currently using Origin + Windows 8.1 on a Macbook with no DVD drive. So you’ll be fine!
That's silly. EA can run their own discounts on Origin any time they want to.Lost sales perchance Alan? Knowing about a game and deciding to buy it are two different things and Steam regularly (and successfully) discounts titles 'gamers' would otherwise avoid altogether to tempt a purchase. On that note, can anyone confirm for me the last time Mass Effect 3 DLC went on sale on Origin?
Odd, I have had an easier time with Origin then I have with Steam for disk based installs. I do know several of my friends had a minor issue with Origin because of version conflicts, so they just installed Origin from the internet and then installed the game without any issue.
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That's silly. EA can run their own discounts on Origin any time they want to.
Edit: unless the argument is that EA would be better off doing sales on Steam while keeping Origin at full price? The argument against sales has always been that that while you capture some sales from people who won't buy at list, you lose some full-price sales since you train everybody else to wait for the sale. If - big if - EA could segment their market so price-conscious gamers use Steam while the rest use Origin, I suppose this could work. In theory.
It's not so silly Alan. What is silly is telling gamers that EA simply has no intention of competing with Steam, in the manner of David DeMartini - head of EA's Origin service - when he declared that Steam sales "cheapen intellectual property".
There is a difference between competing with Steam and not agreeing with their sales philosophy. It could be used against Steam as well, for they don't have anything like the Origin Great Game Guarantee, especially with how I feel about Project Greenlight and Early Access.
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There is a difference between competing with Steam and not agreeing with their sales philosophy. It could be used against Steam as well, for they don't have anything like the Origin Great Game Guarantee, especially with how I feel about Project Greenlight and Early Access.
Why did EA find the need for their own exclusive online store? What was the point?
Money. Very simple and basic. It's logical to think they get the full $60 when you buy off Origin. It's probably cut in half on Steam. Using that logic, 2 games sold on Steam means they only need to sell 1 on Origin to gain the same revenue. A game that sold 1 million on Steam for EA could sell 500k on Origin and they'd still be making the same money. In short, they're probably making a lot more money on Origin than they did Steam.
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