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[illymiel]

I can be arrested in my country for such words ( homosexual propaganda law ) but I really enjoy Bioware romances and that they write homosexual romances. It allow all type of people to enjoy perfectly writen romances. No one deserwe to be alone, even in computer game. I feel empty, when there is no relations between characters in any RPG game, like fallout series, they are fine, but feels emotionless, lonley, without soul.

Would I buy game without romance? Nope, until there are mods that add some love to game, like there was with morrowind, a good game, but romanceable companion mod made that game great.

[Mir Aven]

This seems as good of a thread as any as it's a romance themed thread, but I was talking with some friends and BioWare games came up, and we actually wondered "How would people react if there were no romances?" (But presumably replaced with some other type of writing content instead)

 

I'm not saying DAI has no romances, but I'm just curious how many people simply expect them to be there, and if they weren't there, would be more than a little disappointed.

 

I would be really surprised at first then I would shrug my shoulders and not worry about it.

[Phate Phoenix]

This seems as good of a thread as any as it's a romance themed thread, but I was talking with some friends and BioWare games came up, and we actually wondered "How would people react if there were no romances?" (But presumably replaced with some other type of writing content instead)

 

I'm not saying DAI has no romances, but I'm just curious how many people simply expect them to be there, and if they weren't there, would be more than a little disappointed.

 

I'd be disappointed. I mean, that's why I got into Bioware games in the first place: I heard about Liara, and I was overjoyed to hear that a game actually allowed F/F romance in it, with the main character! So the romance in the Bioware games kinda feels almost as important as the plot or the characters to me, simply for that.

 

That being said, if it was replaced with some other companion-related mechanic (because that's why the romances are so beloved, I think: they give us more with these people we fight with) I would be... better? Not okay, but better. Like, a BFF mechanic instead. And it would have to be with all the companions because anyone can be a BFF. 

 

I'd still get the games, because the lore and character are interesting, and the levels are fun, but I'd be sad to see that mechanic gone. Also, I am ridiculously loyal to companies, so even if I never played it I'd still buy it. (I own my first copy of Mass Effect and I don't even have a 360 anymore.)

[daveliam]

I am concerned about sampling bias since I'm in this thread, and on the BSN, but is there the notion that LGBTQ players are more likely supportive of the romances for this reason, and as such also find themselves having the most to lose if BioWare were to make a game that had no romances?

 

I agree that there might be some sampling bias here, but you might also be onto something.  I think one of the reasons why the LGBT community is vocal about the romances in Bioware games is because (and I'm speaking for myself primarily, but hoping that it applies to others the way I think it does) this one of the few venues within the gaming industry that is inclusive and goes out of its way to allow us to have the same access to content in which our sexuality plays an important role.  It's so refreshing and welcomed that I couldn't imagine ever turning my back on Bioware because of it.  It really means that much to me. 

 

I've been a gamer since the mid-80's when I bought an NES with my allowance money (although I actively played my parents Atari before that).  I have always loved RPGs the most out of any genre.  Ultima: Exodus on the NES was my first real RPG love and it was because of the variety of characters and classes.  The first computer based game that I played was Baldur's Gate.  I played BG, BG 2, and the Icewind Dale games out.  It was in BG 2 that I got my first big disappointment when there were romances but I didn't have any to play.  KOTOR is still one of my favorite games, but my Revan always stayed single.  I head canoned it as "the Jedi way", but I really wanted to romance Carth.  It wasn't until 2005 that I was finally able to romance a male as a male in an RPG and that was Sky in Jade Empire.  It wasn't until 2011 that I got a choice in which guy to romance and that was in DA 2.  Keep in mind that I've been playing video games for nearly 30 years at this point. 

 

It's not that romance content is a deal breaker for me because it's not.  Like I said before, I'm a lifelong Bioware customer because I feel so strongly about the support that the company has provided the LGBT community.  It hasn't always been perfect, but it's been present for almost a decade and it continues to get better and better (more inclusive; better written).  I would buy a Bioware game without romance, of course, but I would be disappointed because I think that it's unlikely that other gaming studios are going to rise up to fill that slot right away.  For example, Spider Studios is about release a new RPG called Bound By Flame.  It actually sounds alot like a Bioware RPG:  customizable main character (male or female), a party of recruitable companions, story driven campaign, the ability to form friendships/rivalries/romances with companions, etc.  However, the romances are hetero only.  I actually wrote to Spider Games about my disappointment and received a very lovely response in which a representative indicated that it was the publisher who didn't want same-sex romance and that they were hoping to use emails like mine to convince them to add them into their next game.  It's obvious to me that the rest of the industry just isn't at the same place as Bioware.  They'll get there eventually, I'm sure, but in the meantime, Bioware games are my haven.  They are the place where I can enjoy my favorite hobby and feel like my sexuality isn't an issue.

 

So to summarize my very long post:  Would I buy a Bioware game without romance?  Of course I would.  Would I be disappointed that there were no romances?  Yes, because unfortunately, there aren't many other studios willing to support us in that way.  I hope that this message wasn't too long or too sappy.

[Lorien19]

This seems as good of a thread as any as it's a romance themed thread, but I was talking with some friends and BioWare games came up, and we actually wondered "How would people react if there were no romances?" (But presumably replaced with some other type of writing content instead)

 

I'm not saying DAI has no romances, but I'm just curious how many people simply expect them to be there, and if they weren't there, would be more than a little disappointed.

Romances definitely add a certain "flavour" in the game since they're an option,that allows you to make your own character more emotionally complex,so I'd say that RP-wise they can play an important role in how we want our pc to evolve throughout the storyline.Still it's not the main reason I play the DA series,only an option that makes that experience more enjoyable,so unless such decision was already announced before release,I would probably be more surprised than disappointed.

[spirosz]

Still it's not the main reason I play the DA series,only an option that makes that experience more enjoyable

 

See, that's the thing.  I've seen a few posters post that is the only reason they pick up the games, which is fine - it's their decision, but I find that hoping that a game will only deliver on that aspect alone, is not worth the purchase - where as the whole package should be considered.  

 

Like, if ME2 didn't include Jack, I would be fine, since I love the game as a whole - but would I be as emotionally invested?  Most likely not, but that is because I always favoured characters and character arc/development compared to Bioware's specific story writing, since it's usually predictable, but that's just been my experience with Bioware since KOTOR.

 

I'm actually hoping one of Bioware's future game consists of no romances, just to see how they could develop certain characters because I've found it unfair to a character, to have their "development" be dependant on if your PC is interested in them or not, where as the development can be showcased throughout the story or interaction with the world, other characters, etc.  

[spirosz]

I think Bioware is in a position where they are expected to have romances, regardless if those actually workout to a quality that is worth talking about... well is subjective.  

[spirosz]

Not a good position to be in.

 

 

That's how I feel, but they've built up that sort of rep with their games since BG2, if I remember correctly.  

[Rusty Sandusky]

No one dev should have all that power

[CuriousArtemis]

This whole conversation is scary, and it better just be a hypothetical, Allan lol

[Hellion Rex]

This whole conversation is scary, and it better just be a hypothetical, Allan lol

How is it scary?

[AresKeith]

This whole conversation is scary, and it better just be a hypothetical, Allan lol

Why should it just be hypothetical, if Bioware wants to try something new they are well in their rights to do so

[Divine Justinia V]

Why should it just be hypothetical, if Bioware wants to try something new they are well in their rights to do so

 

i think she was just kidding but

[AresKeith]

i think she was just kidding but

I can't tell anymore on Bioware's forum :s

[Hellion Rex]

Oh god. Here you to go again...

[Divine Justinia V]

Oh god. Here you to go again...

 

i'm gonna whoop your ass, you always pop up at the worst time lmfaoo

[daveliam]

I can't tell anymore on Bioware's forum :s

 

Here's a hint.  "lol" at the end of a statement usually implies a joke.

[Hellion Rex]

i'm gonna whoop your ass, you always pop up at the worst time lmfaoo

What can I say, dear. It's a gift.

[Hellion Rex]

Here's a hint.  "lol" at the end of a statement usually implies a joke.

Damn, dave with the sass

[Divine Justinia V]

Here's a hint.  "lol" at the end of a statement usually implies a joke.

 

hell yeah hell yeah

[AresKeith]

Here's a hint. "lol" at the end of a statement usually implies a joke.

Usually but not always *shrugs*

[daveliam]

Yeah, that statement came off a bit bitchier than I had intended.  Perhaps, I should have added an "lol" at the end.....