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The Cullen thread guesstimates he was born around 9:05, so he'd be about 35 five now? Right around Hawke's age, or possibly older.
I like it, but I'm wondering if you know which Cullen thread it's in because I'd love to see what they are using to put him at ~25 in DA: O. It's totally believable on face value, but there has to be something that they are using to figure that out.
It's not weird. Just a comment that men generally don't come out as heroes at 50. Or 40. Whatever. People are usually pretty set in their ways by then.
Most folks also aren't at ground zero for a huge rip in the very fabric of reality either. 
Besides, that isn't the topic of the thread. Anything to add about romances or was that it?
I like it, but I'm wondering if you know which Cullen thread it's in because I'd love to see what they are using to put him at ~25 in DA: O. It's totally believable on face value, but there has to be something that they are using to figure that out.
The one in the DA2 forums. I think the toolset had his age for DAO, and they went from there? I believe?
The one in the DA2 forums. I think the toolset had his age for DAO, and they went from there? I believe?
I'm sure some of the Cullen fans around in the active threads in the Story and Lore subforums might be able to clear this up for us. They are really a nice bunch overall.
I'm sure some of the Cullen fans around in the active threads in the Story and Lore subforums might be able to clear this up for us. They are really a nice bunch overall.
Most of 'em are asleep right now, but I've asked. I'm also trying to find where I asked this very question. It was only a few days ago, but we've skyrocketed the page count because of Greg Ellis's tweets.
Alright, I went digging through the Cullen thread and found this about his age:
LolaLei wrote...
I think Cullen's files said 24 in the toolset, so he'll probably be about 36ish in DAI, but it depends on whether they've shaved a few years off his age and/or how long after the end of DA2 the new game picks up from.
Soooo I'd say he'll be anything between 34 and 39.
Actually, I dunno how many people still know about this, but a few years back there was a dispute on the Origins forums about the "age" files in the DAO Toolset, and I cannot remember if it was actually from the original Cullen appreciation thread I made in the old forums or from another discussion, but David Gaider actually popped in and explained that the ages listed in the toolset were not the characters' actual age, but a reference for the VA actors' to go by, essentially meaning I'm presuming that they wanted Greg Ellis to try and sound more like a bumbling, nervous 24-year-old. Which is really cute.
So don't be fooled by the Toolset! I never follow the list lol. I headcanon him as in his 30s in Origins, which would make him a saucy 40ish in DAI (which I don't mind a siiinggle bit)
So, 35ish for DAI sounds about right.
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Found this post mentioning his age. Taken from the character file in the toolset.
http://forum.bioware...-20/?p=16120145
I remember a dev saying don't take the toolset age serious
If the warden is 19 in Origins, like someone quoted, I'd think Cullen was 19-22, or so. I feel like it makes sense for them to be around the same age, since Cullen had a crush on girl wardens.
To me it's a little creepy if she was 19 and he was 30+, but maybe I'm being ageist. 
@Ares It gives us a ballpark age though. So he's probably about the same age as most of the followers seem to be: mid to late 30s. I can't see a serious Cullen fan thinking that's too old.
As far as someone in their 30s being too old for a romance, allow me to point you to this lovely man right here.
Brian Bloom, Voice Actor for Varric. 43 years old, and I wouldn't kick him out of bed for eating crackers.
If the warden is 19 in Origins, like someone quoted, I'd think Cullen was 19-22, or so. I feel like it makes sense for them to be around the same age, since Cullen had a crush on girl wardens.
To me it's a little creepy if she was 19 and he was 30+, but maybe I'm being ageist.
I think it's alright to find ~30 year old Cullen crushing on a ~19yo Mage Warden a little creepy, as Cullen was in a position of power over her and it's already got a bit creep factor built into it. If he's younger, then it feels more like it comes from a genuine place. 
If the warden is 19 in Origins, like someone quoted, I'd think Cullen was 19-22, or so. I feel like it makes sense for them to be around the same age, since Cullen had a crush on girl wardens.
To me it's a little creepy if she was 19 and he was 30+, but maybe I'm being ageist.
I think that the notes to voice actor was the character was supposed to be in his mid 20's (around 24). So that's not too far off from a 19 year old warden (provided that the warden even is 19). Since DA: I is about 10 years later, it would put Cullen in his mid-30's for the Inquisitor. These ages are all subjective and nothing is firm, though.
I think that the notes to voice actor was the character was supposed to be in his mid 20's (around 24). So that's not too far off from a 19 year old warden (provided that the warden even is 19). These ages are all subjective and nothing is firm, though.
The only one that's has his age confirmed was Alistair, and he was born in 9:10 Dragon. He was 20-21 years old during the year long Fifth Blight.
I think it's alright to find ~30 year old Cullen crushing on a ~19yo Mage Warden a little creepy, as Cullen was in a position of power over her and it's already got a bit creep factor built into it. If he's younger, then it feels more like it comes from a genuine place.
Yeah, that's basically the thing. If the Inquisitor were 19 and dated an older person, it wouldn't matter to me. It's just kind of weird because she's under his control and they don't have any real working relationship. So, it just seems.. off.
Yeah, that's basically the thing. If the Inquisitor were 19 and dated an older person, it wouldn't matter to me. It's just kind of weird because she's under his control and they don't have any real working relationship. So, it just seems.. off.
Wait, are you talking about the Inquisitor or the Warden? The Warden was under Cullen's control, but they were only about 5 years apart. The Inquisitor isn't under Cullen's "control", as far as we know. Plus, the Inquisitor is supposed to be older than the Warden, apparently.
Wait, are you talking about the Inquisitor or the Warden? The Warden was under Cullen's control, but they were only about 5 years apart. The Inquisitor isn't under Cullen's "control", as far as we know. Plus, the Inquisitor is supposed to be older than the Warden, apparently.
No, I was saying it would be weird with the mage warden and 30+ Cullen, but I wouldn't find it weird if the Inquisitor romanced a companion in their 30s if they were around the same age as the warden. I mostly just brought it up because the original quote said the person's headcanon was that Cullen was 30+ in Origins.
35-40 ??? No more like 28 something like that. Leliana is her boss and she's like 28-30 at the end of DA2. I doubt Cassandra would have a younger boss. Vivienne must be 40-45. And Vynne was probably around 50-60
Throughout my life, most of my bosses have been younger than me.
All of you have me trying to guesstimate the ages of characters that we barely know anything about! I'm thinking nearly all companions will be in the 30s and 40s range, though, and thus all the romances.
It's not weird. Just a comment that men generally don't come out as heroes at 50. Or 40. Whatever. People are usually pretty set in their ways by then.
So, you're saying maybe he was a closeted hero, and he's only just out?
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All of you have me trying to guesstimate the ages of characters that we barely know anything about! I'm thinking nearly all companions will be in the 30s and 40s range, though, and thus all the romances.
To me, the warden looks to be older. Like 50-55.
To me, the warden looks to be older. Like 50-55.
I'd peg him anywhere between mid-40s and mid-50s, A grey streak in a beard isn't too much to go by!
I'd peg him anywhere between mid-40s and mid-50s, A grey streak in a beard isn't too much to go by!
Yeah, my husband has a grey streak in his beard just like the Warden and he's only 35. I'm saying that the Warden is late 30's through mid-40's.
As far as someone in their 30s being too old for a romance, allow me to point you to this lovely man right here.
*gasp* WHO says that! Ridonculous! 
I'm pretty sure ALL of my celeb crushes are in their 30s. 30s is like this magical decade where everyone becomes extremely hot. Well that's what I think, anyway. You're still relatively young BUT you've got this self-assurance and wisdom that someone in their 20s or younger doesn't have. 
Ahhhhh 30s.
If the warden is 19 in Origins, like someone quoted, I'd think Cullen was 19-22, or so. I feel like it makes sense for them to be around the same age, since Cullen had a crush on girl wardens.
To me it's a little creepy if she was 19 and he was 30+, but maybe I'm being ageist.
I was always under the impression that Cullen was like 4-5 years older than her. She was 19, he was 24. 10 years passed between then and the end of DA2, yes? I guess that would make him 34 or so around the time Hawke leaves Kirkwall.
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