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[JakeLeTDK]

Is there any reason nobody consider Warden to be a rogue? At the end Duncan was one. 

I think we had a glimpse of him in the gameplay demo last year, and he was using shield and sword if my eyes didn't betray me. I think he's a warrior.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Is there any reason nobody consider Warden to be a rogue? At the end Duncan was one. 

He was seen with sword and shield in game play footage.

[MetalGear312]

*pats MetalGear312 on the head* There, there, its okay we all still appreciate it will a hug make you feel better?

Yes please.

[swoobatsy]

I noticed none of those things about Fenris' romance scene. Especially because I regularly triggered the scene where he comes back abs directly tells Hawke he wants to be with him. I also think you should probably take Fenris at his word when he says he enjoyed whatever happened.

That being said: I liked the rivalmance way more than the friend path. I think Fenris' bitterness is terribly unhealthy, and I like that he still falls for a Hawke that fights him on his issues. Hawke and Fenris do have make philosophical disagreements, but there is pretty clearly no abuse going on.

 

I still couldn't do a rivalmance to slam him into the wall and see that expression. I don't mean to imply that abuse is what they absolutely meant, just what I see when I see it. I won't argue on that point because we only have his word. He, just like any character when they say just about anything, could be lying. We can't actually get into his head or ask him to find out. I don't really want to say he was absolutely triggered and didn't mean what he said, I'm only giving the conclusion that I'm drawing from his facial expressions beforehand and how it appeared in game, to me.

 

I agree that his bitterness is unhealthy, which is why I am conflicted about rivalmances as they are meant to, more or less, stop self destructive behavior, but they just seem like bad and harsh ideas for a romantic relationship. I agree that the end goal for Fenris in a rivalmance is a good one. And I agree that there's no intentional abuse of any kind. But when I see Fenris's face in that first gif, I can't see enjoyment in that moment. I don't think it's an abusive relationship all around, it's just that specific moment that gets me and it then colors my entire view of the rivalmance. Perhaps if it didn't have that (and I don't really understand why the separate animation exists when they use the same one for Friendship as the one for when he comes to you in Rivalry) I wouldn't see it as such. 

[Abelas Forever!]

Well, to me, the problem is that there aren't any issues presented in game that go too far. There are rarely "deal breaker" moments with anyone. I would be able to better accept rivalmances if they had more gating. As is, though, I honestly don't think they have enough dealbreaker moments or enough chances for your companions to just leave if you're continuously working against their interests. To me, it's a bigger issue than romances. I can't see the reason a lot of these people stay with you, or even what keeps them from actively working against you, with the sort of choices they let you make and the complete lack of any options to try to reason the other characters to your way of thinking.

I guess deal breaker moments are problematic because many people might not like the idea that you have recruited somebody and he/she leaves your PC. And should it be possible for your PC to lose all companions? That might be possible if deal breaker moments aren't handled well. For example when your PC is making a decision that one of your companion doesn't agree could start the deal breaker moment where she/he could say to you that "if you do this, then I'm going to leave." So then you would know what is going to happen if you act the way you do.

[jellobell]

I just hope that if Cullen is an NPC romance and they're doing 3/3 male and female it won't end up going like this: 

 

Female: Cass, Viv, Sera

 

Male: Solas, Cullen (NPC), [Insert Male Companion Here]

 

I'd rather have an equal distribution of companion romances, since I'm not all that wild about NPC romances in the first place. 

[Ianamus]

I just hope that if Cullen is an NPC romance and they're doing 3/3 male and female it won't end up going like this: 

 

Female: Cass, Viv, Sera

 

Male: Solas, Cullen (NPC), [Insert Male Companion Here]

 

I'd rather have an equal distribution of companion romances, since I'm not all that wild about NPC romances in the first place. 

 

 

I have a mini theory: The reason Cullen and scribe girl appeared in art in the survey alongside the potential companions is because they are both romance options. I think that scribey will be a romanceable NPC if Cullen is. 

[jellobell]

I have a mini theory that is probably wrong: The reason Cullen and scribe girl appeared in art in the survey alongside the potential companions is because they are both romance options. I think that scribey will be a romanceable NPC if Cullen is. 

I like this theory, and it makes me interested to find out more about scribe girl.

 

I kinda hope that Viv's the other female romance. She's absolutely fascinating. And I still haven't given up hope for Varric, even though I really really don't want to set my expectations too high. As long as Solas is in I'll be happy.

[Naesaki]

Yes please.

Sorry for the delay *hug*

[Ianamus]

I like this theory, and it makes me interested to find out more about scribe girl.

 

I kinda hope that Viv's the other female romance. She's absolutely fascinating. And I still haven't given up hope for Varric, even though I really really don't want to set my expectations too high. As long as Solas is in I'll be happy.

 

My speculation is that Cassandra, Scribe girl and Sera will be the female LI's. I would have no problems with Vivienne, but I think the other girls are just more likely. I could be wrong though. 

 

I'm also fairly sure Solas is an LI, though I am completely clueless as to who the third male LI will be. I hope it's either Iron Bull or Varric so we can finally get a Qunari/Dwarf LI, but I don't want to get my hopes up. 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I like DHMG as one of the male LIs the most, so far. It's just a preference thing. 

 

I still wonder what they'll do with the sexualities. I think that could effect who we'll get, since some people have romantic histories in the plot. Like, for example, neither Cullen or Varric could be a "gay" LI. 

[jellobell]

My speculation is that Cassandra, Scribe girl and Sera will be the female LI's. I would have no problems with Vivienne, but I think the other girls are just more likely. I could be wrong though. 

 

I'm also fairly sure Solas is an LI, though I am completely clueless as to who the third male LI will be. I hope it's either Iron Bull or Varric so we can finally get a Qunari/Dwarf LI, but I don't want to get my hopes up. 

 

Same here. Ah well. Having one human and one elf as LIs has gotten rather predictable after two games, so I'm really hoping for IB or Varric. Maybe a Cullen NPC romance fills the human quota.

 

I still wonder what they'll do with the sexualities. I think that could effect who we'll get, since some people have romantic histories in the plot. Like, for example, neither Cullen or Varric could be a "gay" LI. 

 

I could see Cullen as bi fairly easily. Varric...a bit less so, but not impossible. After all, they made Kaidan a m/m romance in ME3, so it's not like it hasn't happened before. And I have a feeling that everyone's going to be playersexual again.

[Truffle]

That is a good point. It didn't bother me that Kaidan turned into a potential LI for a male Shepard. But for Cullen to suddenly switch sides would have to make sense and not come from out of nowhere like Anders. The jump from Awakening to DA2 was too drastic for him, imo.

 

It annoyed me in DA2 how the most masculine guy (Varric) and sane, macho woman (Aveline) ended up being off limits to a romance. I guess BioWare somewhat rectified this situation by confirming Cassandra to be a LI for DAI. She strikes me as somebody being strictly straight.

 

DHMG looks like somebody who would enjoy sleeping with men. I would not object to M/M with Iron Bull either.

[ahellbornlady]

I like DHMG as one of the male LIs the most, so far. It's just a preference thing. 

 

I still wonder what they'll do with the sexualities. I think that could effect who we'll get, since some people have romantic histories in the plot. Like, for example, neither Cullen or Varric could be a "gay" LI. 

 

They'll just pull an Anders with Cullen. He was straight in Awakenings but later discovered the joys of bisexuality.

[Sylvianus]

For me, it's dead for Vivienne. 

[Darth Krytie]

That is a good point. It didn't bother me that Kaidan turned into a potential LI for a male Shepard. But for Cullen to suddenly switch sides would have to make sense and not come from out of nowhere like Anders. The jump from Awakening to DA2 was too drastic for him, imo.

 

It annoyed me in DA2 how the most masculine guy (Varric) and sane, macho woman (Aveline) ended up being off limits to a romance. I guess BioWare somewhat rectified this situation by confirming Cassandra to be a LI for DAI. She strikes me as somebody being strictly straight.

 

DHMG looks like somebody who would enjoy sleeping with men. I would not object to M/M with Iron Bull either.

 

We know nothing about Cullen's sexuality except that maybe, possibly, he's attracted to the ladymage from Origins. Those of us that never played that, never had any indication whatsoever about Cullen's sexuality. And being attracted to one person of one gender means absolutely nothing except that they were, at one point, attracted to someone.

 

So, no, Cullen being bi would not be "switching sides" as he's never declared a side to begin with.

 

Anders, again, didn't change all that drastically (especially if you basically had him in your party with everyone especially Justice) and him being bisexual was perfectly understandable again. I've spent years being attracted to mostly men, and then a few women, and then now, for the last seven years, I've been mostly attracted to women, and some men. Sexuality is fluid. It's not a "stay exactly the same forever and ever without changing" thing for everyone.

[Tamyn]

Someone in the design team must have a blond haired man fetish. It's the only conclusion I came up with for having 3 games in a row with the white human male romance being blond.

 

Then they also have a black haired woman fetish. And all the blond males have to have brown/hazel eyes for some reason (Alistair, Varric, Anders, Zevran, Cullen).

[carine]

Am I the only one who thinks Alistair has red hair?

 

Or I guess it could be strawberry blond. 

[Mes]

 Sexuality is fluid.

 

Bingo.

 

This is something I too have come to realize over the years.

[jellobell]

Am I the only one who thinks Alistair has red hair?

 

Or I guess it could be strawberry blond. 

 

I did! I don't know where everyone's getting blonde from. His hair is really ginger.

 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Any character could be made bisexual since no character has specifically said they were ONLY straight or gay. What I meant before was that, if they do the 2/2/2 system, there has to be a lesbian and a gay LI and well as two straight LIs. Gaider has said on his blog that he personally favored that system, I'm pretty sure(?), so if there are 6 LIs, we might be getting the 2/2/2 system.

[carine]

I did! I don't know where everyone's getting blonde from. His hair is really ginger.

 

I'm glad someone else thinks so! In the comics, his hair is red as well.

[Rychen]

Cullen isn't "switching sides."  The only time his sexuality was ever mentioned was him possibly flirting with a female mage, which hardly allows anyone to tie down his orientation.  You cannot determine what someones sexuality is from one ambiguous line.  Bisexuals do exist just an fyi.  Also getting a tad tired of the speculation that always has the male human as the straight character and the elven characters as the default gay ones.  If I did not know better, I would think that there was some subconscious stereotyping going on here (in particular identifying the physically feminine characters as the gay ones).  These same arguments were going on back during ME3 and guess what, Kaidan swung both ways.

[TKavatar]

Cullen isn't "switching sides."  The only time his sexuality was ever mentioned was him possibly flirting with a female mage, which hardly allows anyone to tie down his orientation.  You cannot determine what someones sexuality is from one ambiguous line.  Bisexuals do exist just an fyi.  Also getting a tad tired of the speculation that always has the male human as the straight character and the elven characters as the default gay ones.  If I did not know better, I would think that there was some subconscious stereotyping going on here (in particular identifying the physically feminine characters as the gay ones).  These same arguments were going on back during ME3 and guess what, Kaidan swung both ways.

So all characters are bi unless otherwise confirmed?

[Darth Krytie]

So all characters are bi unless otherwise confirmed?

I think of it is: they're all undeclared until confirmed. I never assume anyone's sexuality. Some people are het, some gay, some bi, some pan, some demi, some Ace. I wait til they tell me.