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[Blackrising]

I think we've lost sight of the most important question yet to be answered on romances: can I be in lesbians with Cassandra? That's really all that I care about right now in regard to romances.

 

Yeah, I am approaching this point, too.

I don't even need to know about the availability to Femquisitor of any of the other LIs, I just want to know about Cass. Tell me whether she's bi, straight or gay and I can finally shut the door on this.

 

Cass is my lesbian romance dream come true, man. A strong, fiercely loyal, gorgeous warrior lady who doesn't take **** from nobody. And let me tell you, that scar on her cheek is hot as hell.

Man, my heart is so set on her, I'm not sure what I'll do if I can't romance her. I've got my Femquisitor's whole life with her all figured out by now.

[Darth Krytie]

Yeah, I am approaching this point, too.

I don't even need to know about the availability to Femquisitor for any of the other LIs, I just want to know about Cass. Tell me whether she's bi, straight or gay and I can finally shut the door on this.

 

Cass is my lesbian romance dream come true, man. A strong, fiercely loyal, gorgeous warrior lady who doesn't take **** from nobody. And let me tell you, that scar on her cheek is hot as hell.

Man, my heart is so set on her, I'm not sure what I'll do if I can't romance her. I've got my Femquisitor's whole life with her all figured out by now.

 

I feel this so very deeply. As the above tweets from freaking 2011 can attest to...I just have my heart set so badly on Cassandra despite doing my best not to have my heart set on anything until it's confirmed.

[Chari]

Regardless of who will take the rest of LI slots I already know who will conquer the heart and the mind of my vashoth!Inquisitor. Cassandra and He will destroy the enemies with sword and fire

[Blackrising]

I feel this so very deeply. As the above tweets from freaking 2011 can attest to...I just have my heart set so badly on Cassandra despite doing my best not to have my heart set on anything until it's confirmed.

 

I've been dead set on romancing her since that leaked survey appeared. I've tried so hard to not get my hopes up and just wait and see, but I am well and truly lost. That desire to romance her has had, what, one and a half years to foster and grow and gain monumentum and now this giant pink elephant dressed in flannel is just sitting there in the back of my mind, whispering sweet nothings into my ear and...waiting to either...crush me...or....eh...(as Isabela would have said, I think that metaphore got away with me).

 

In any case, we're in deep ****.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

If they're going to tell us what the availability is for one LI, then they definitely need to do it for all of them. To be honest, though, I'd even just be happy with knowing what sexuality structure they're using and not the corresponding LIs. Well, not even that, I'd be totally content for now if I just knew they'd tell us like the month before release what the structure they're using is. It's really only this "maybe you'll just have to figure it out on your own after release" standpoint that stresses me out about it. 

[Blackrising]

If they're going to tell us what the availability is for one LI, then they definitely need to do it for all of them. To be honest, though, I'd even just be happy with knowing what sexuality structure they're using and not the corresponding LIs. Well, not even that, I'd be totally content for now if I just knew they'd tell us like the month before release what the structure they're using is. It's really only this "maybe you'll just have to figure it out on your own after release" standpoint that stresses me out about it. 

 

Yep, although that WOULD mean I don't have to pre-order it, since I'd have to wait for information on the romances anyway.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Yep, although that WOULD mean I don't have to pre-order it, since I'd have to wait for information on the romances anyway.

I want to know who the LIs are and their availability, too. I don't know, I think I'd probably order it still under certain circumstances. Like, if they told us it was 2/2/2 with 4 companion LIs and the 2 NPCs were bisexual, honestly I'd still buy it. That's not my ideal, but I'm still really appreciative in that scenario for Bioware trying as hard as possible to give LGB players equal choices as hetero players. Even if the LIs I got weren't my ideal, that's a really subjective issue and I'm sure I'd get used to them. I'm not going to be petty about it if Bioware is going out on a limb to try to be fair to my demographic. 

 

I'd still be (respectfully, or at least I try) vocal that it's not my ideal. I don't really want for there to be only one companion LI choice for anyone. I'd rather they at least do 6 companions if they feel like they have to use the 2/2/2 system. My ideal, like I keep saying, is to keep everyone available with some openly bisexual and some left vague. I'm not necessarily going to pass on DA:I if I don't get my ideal, it just depends how far away it swings. 

[daveliam]

I don't know, I think I'd probably order it still under certain circumstances.

 

Wow, you would really consider not buying if the romance structure wasn't what you wanted?  That's surprising to me.  I think that the only way that romances would effect my decision is they cut out all s/s options but left in the o/s options.  It's always interesting to hear what other people think about stuff like this.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Wow, you would really consider not buying if the romance structure wasn't what you wanted?  That's surprising to me.  I think that the only way that romances would effect my decision is they cut out all s/s options but left in the o/s options.  It's always interesting to hear what other people think about stuff like this.

Absolutely. If there aren't at least 2 m/m options, I wont buy the game. That's the absolute deal breaker line. 

 

I don't think that's going to happen at all, don't get me wrong. I'm not doubtful that Bioware will come through on this. 

 

If they went with the ME method of shoving the gay option into an NPC slot, I probably would have waited until the game released to decide if I thought it was worth it. With Cullen being the probable NPC romance, though, that's basically not a concern. 

[smoke and mirrors]

 

Yeah, she does have that Olivia Benson vibe, doesn't she?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@dragonage Cassandra. She's strong, powerful, and no-nonsense. She's brilliant.

 

 

 

This is exactly what i want for my Fem Inquisitor and what i wanted from Aveline .

[Ianamus]

I don't understand why the sexuality structure is bothering people so much. We know that it will will be either 4 bisexual or 2/2/2, so what does it matter? Either way the number of options is the same. 

 

I also find it hard to believe that there are people who seem to genuinely prefer the idea of 4 bisexual LI's to a 2/2/2 split. That's basically arguing for less choice and variety in LI's, which to me seems ridiculous. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I don't understand why the sexuality structure is bothering people so much. We know that it will will be either 4 bisexual or 2/2/2, so what does it matter? Either way the number of options is the same. 

 

I also find it hard to believe that there are people who seem to genuinely prefer the idea of 4 bisexual LI's to a 2/2/2 split. That's basically arguing for less choice and variety in LI's, which to me seems ridiculous. 

Not really. In both cases, any player has access to 4 LIs.

[Ianamus]

Not really. In both cases, any player has access to 4 LIs.

 

Not if you include multiple playthroughs.

[phantomrachie]

I think we've lost sight of the most important question yet to be answered on romances: can I be in lesbians with Cassandra? That's really all that I care about right now in regard to romances.

 

I wish I could give you more than one like for this. If the answer to this was 'yes' I'd be happy to find out everything else when I play the game.

[TKavatar]

Absolutely. If there aren't at least 2 m/m options, I wont buy the game. That's the absolute deal breaker line. 
 
I don't think that's going to happen at all, don't get me wrong. I'm not doubtful that Bioware will come through on this. 
 
If they went with the ME method of shoving the gay option into an NPC slot, I probably would have waited until the game released to decide if I thought it was worth it. With Cullen being the probable NPC romance, though, that's basically not a concern.

So the only reason you're buying the game is because of the m/m relationships?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Not if you include multiple playthroughs. 

I suppose.

 

If they go 6 LIs, I hope all 6 are available to everyone. 

[phantomrachie]

If they go 6 LIs, I hope all 6 are available to everyone. 

 

I agree - I'd prefer that all LIs are available to everyone no matter how many there are.

 

Some people may say this is not very realistic but I'd prefer that to a situation like Miranda; where throughout talking to her I was sooo sure I'd be able to romance her,and then she suddenly stopped talking to me 

 

On the other hand; I watched a YouTube Video of Sam Traynor rejecting Male Shep, its brilliant and really well done. Also Steve is soo sweet when he talks about his husband.

 

Either way as long as I can romance Cass, I'll be happy   

[Abelas Forever!]

I have been thinking a lot about companion romances and should they be player sexual. I understand that some people want them to be player sexual so that they can romance whoever they want. But I don't like the idea that romances are player sexual. There are several reasons for that. One reason is that there is a certain setting which is defined in the beginning of a game. I might be able to choose some things for example my race, gender, background or class. So that every time I choose differently, then there will be a different story. When I start playing  there are characters that react to my character depending on who she is and what choices she is making. But the other characters are the same. They just react differently. They don't change, but I might have some impact on them but in the end they are always the same.

 

If every LI are player sexual I think it would be a little bit strange because should I think that everybody are bi? Or are all the men straight but women are all bi or lesbian? Why isn't there different sexualities? Why am I the only straight one there? I guess I'm just trying to say that I like that characters are different and not the same. There might be gay or bi or lesbian characters and that's just fine. Some characters' sexuality might be vague but if everybody's background is vague I think it would be too repetitive. I know that character is more than it's sexuality. But the reason why I say more is because sexuality is part of them. In some cases it's a bigger part and in some cases it smaller part. For example if a character is straight female. She is not bi and she might be interested in men. Of course this character is more than that. She could be a warrior or a scared little girl. But she is also straight female and why should we see her as bi because that is not who she is.

 

I might not like the idea that I can't romance everybody because of my gender. For example if there would be some man that is out of my reach because I'm a woman and I would really like to romance him. But I can live with that. I guess I'm just satisfied that I can play as a woman and have a romances at all. I guess I also want that not everything is ok to my companions. If one man is gay then he is gay and I can't romance him.

 

I can think of one way that player sexual romances can work and that is that you can choose it  in the beginning of game just as you choose everything else for your inguisitor. That way you can choose would you like romances to be player sexual or not. It's like one state in the world.

 

I just hope there are romances for every sexuality so that everybody can have at least one romance. I guess it's better than nothing.

[Ianamus]

To me the whole point of having 6 LI's is that you can represent different sexualities while keeping the options even. 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

So the only reason you're buying the game is because of the m/m relationships?

It's not the only reason, but I wouldn't buy the game without it, no. I wouldn't buy a game that was just a dating sim, the story is also important to me. 

[Blackrising]

I don't understand why the sexuality structure is bothering people so much. We know that it will will be either 4 bisexual or 2/2/2, so what does it matter? Either way the number of options is the same. 

 

I also find it hard to believe that there are people who seem to genuinely prefer the idea of 4 bisexual LI's to a 2/2/2 split. That's basically arguing for less choice and variety in LI's, which to me seems ridiculous. 

 

It's not about the options being even. Having the same number of options doesn't mean sh*t to me if the one character I want to romance above all others is not one of the options available to me.

 

For me, the romance is an important part of the game. Not in the sense of holding the same weight as the story or the choices, but in the sense of it being the hot raspberry sauce on top of a portion of vanilla ice cream. The ice cream is great on its own as well, but it's just not truly satisfying without the delicious sauce. Especially when the customers all around me are happily slurping their raspberry sauce, while I got chocolate sauce. And the waiter telling me "Don't worry, you still get the same amount of sauce! We want to offer a wider variety of flavours, you see" will not make the frustration go away, because I wanted the deliciously fruity raspberry sauce, goddammit!

 

In other words, quality over quantity. I could have a hundred options and it wouldn't mean a thing if none of them appeal to me.

[Chari]

It's not about the options being even. Having the same number of options doesn't mean sh*t to me if the one character I want to romance above all others is not one of the options available to me.

For me, the romance is an important part of the game. Not in the sense of holding the same weight as the story or the choices, but in the sense of it being the hot raspberry sauce on top of a portion of vanilla ice cream. The ice cream is great on its own as well, but it's just not truly satisfying without the delicious sauce. Especially when the customers all around me are happily slurping their raspberry sauce and I got chocolate sauce. And the waiter telling me "Don't worry, you still get the same amount of sauce! We want to offer a wider variety of flavours, you see" will not make the frustration go away, because I wanted the deliciously fruity raspberry sauce, goddammit!

In other words, quality over quantity. I could have a hundred options, but that still wouldn't make me happy if none of them appeals to me.

Playersexuality is essentially quantity over quality

[Nocte ad Mortem]

To me the whole point of having 6 LI's is that you can represent different sexualities while keeping the options even. 

To me, it's not worth it because the 6 LIs include 2 NPCs, or at least that's what we assume. I'm not going to use the female love interests or play a female character at all, so it's still 2 LIs, to me, either way. With 4 companion LIs, that's definitely 2 companions LIs to choose from. With 6, in the arrangement we'll probably get, it's likely only 1 possible companions LI. I'd rather have 2 companion LIs than 1 companion/1 NPC. If it was 6 companions LIs, I wouldn't have much of a problem either way.

 

I'll still buy the game, but it's definitely not my ideal.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Playersexuality is essentially quantity over quality

2/2/2 spreads the count thinner and maybe cuts down the amount of companion LIs available vs NPC LIs, so I'm not convinced of this. 

[Ianamus]

It's not about the options being even. Having the same number of options doesn't mean sh*t to me if the one character I want to romance above all others is not one of the options available to me.

 

For me, the romance is an important part of the game. Not in the sense of holding the same weight as the story or the choices, but in the sense of it being the hot raspberry sauce on top of a portion of vanilla ice cream. The ice cream is great on its own as well, but it's just not truly satisfying without the delicious sauce. Especially when the customers all around me are happily slurping their raspberry sauce, while I got chocolate sauce. And the waiter telling me "Don't worry, you still get the same amount of sauce! We want to offer a wider variety of flavours, you see" will not make the frustration go away, because I wanted the deliciously fruity raspberry sauce, goddammit!

 

In other words, quality over quantity. I could have a hundred options and it wouldn't mean a thing if none of them appeal to me.

 

But I have seen people saying that they might not buy the game based on the LI setup. Not buying a game because a particular character is not available to you as an LI is completely ludicrous, in my opinion. 

 

Further to that, we don't even have all of the companions revealed yet, let alone who will be the LI's, so it is far, far too early to start worrying that the companion you like the most isn't available as an LI.

 

 

To me, it's not worth it because the 6 LIs include 2 NPCs, or at least that's what we assume. I'm not going to use the female love interests or play a female character at all, so it's still 2 LIs, to me, either way. With 4 companion LIs, that's definitely 2 companions LIs to choose from. With 6, in the arrangement we'll probably get, it's likely only 1 possible companions LI. I'd rather have 2 companion LIs than 1 companion/1 NPC. If it was 6 companions LIs, I wouldn't have much of a problem either way.

 

I'll still buy the game, but it's definitely not my ideal.

 

It's not just about the romance paths, though. If they do a 2/2/2 split with set sexualities we would probably get a homosexual companion, which even ignoring romances entirely would be fantastic, as we still have not had one yet in any Bioware game.