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Alistair Not appear in DAI(Confirmed twitter)


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#51
Jack Druthers

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Not having Alistair just ticked another box for me. People talk of how Morrigan lies and is manipulative, I found him just as bad no matter what PC I played.

 

 IMO he used people just as much as anyone.  His only  two redeeming features was that he would, given the option, sacrifice himself to the Archdemon for his lover.  Even then I had visions of the Warden quickly handing him a sword with a "Off you go then" .  The other is that with the realisation that the veil was thin at the Circle, it was moved to another location - but his GW companion had to die to achieve this.

 

I liked the idea of his drunken fate, but he was still being baby sat by Teagan.  But wondered,  how as a drunk  would the dwarves react to have him hiccuping through the Hall of Heroes and into the Deep roads slurring "I've come for my calling.." 



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I'm hoping he doesn't return.

 

I like Alistair, but assuming he is the reining King-Consort of Ferelden he shouldn't be travelling Thedas righting wrongs. Having the king function as a common adventurer for the sake of a cameo is a bit silly, IMO.


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It's a big story, Dragon Age. Maybe Ferelden isn't the focal point of the tale. Maybe this game is going to expand the narrative beyond darkspawn and mages, maybe future entries in the franchise will come back to pick up that thread and maybe that's a good thing. It's not as if the sky is falling because of Alistair's absence... Wait.

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Yeah, but his voice changed between the first two games. They should stick with his DA2 voice though.

You have a problem with a dwarf going through puberty?



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Not having Alistair just ticked another box for me. People talk of how Morrigan lies and is manipulative, I found him just as bad no matter what PC I played.
 
 IMO he used people just as much as anyone.  His only  two redeeming features was that he would, given the option, sacrifice himself to the Archdemon for his lover.  Even then I had visions of the Warden quickly handing him a sword with a "Off you go then" .  The other is that with the realisation that the veil was thin at the Circle, it was moved to another location - but his GW companion had to die to achieve this.
 
I liked the idea of his drunken fate, but he was still being baby sat by Teagan.  But wondered,  how as a drunk  would the dwarves react to have him hiccuping through the Hall of Heroes and into the Deep roads slurring "I've come for my calling.."


Technically, Morrigan never really lied either. She even tells you that Flemeth won't actually die should you choose to fight her, and eventually discloses about her plan when it's the right time.

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No, it most certainly did not. Yuri Lowenthal in both games. David Gaider has remarked upon this apparent confusion, which really is just that.

Edit: The only difference is that he has more to say.

 

Oh. My mistake then. He just sounds very different. 



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KaiserShep said:

Technically, Morrigan never really lied either. She even tells you that Flemeth won't actually die should you choose to fight her, and eventually discloses about her plan when it's the right time.

 

I agree with you but didn't want this to be about her.  Alistair keeps a vital secret and reveals it waayy too late. 



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One would think that the Inquisitor will want or need to ally him or herself with the rulers and monarchs of Thedas in order to deal with what I assume is a crisis that impacts all of Thedas. If so, it stands to reason that if Alistair is King he will be referred to one way or another. So maybe a cameo, or maybe just a reference.

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One would think that the Inquisitor will want or need to ally him or herself with the rulers and monarchs of Thedas in order to deal with what I assume is a crisis that impacts all of Thedas. If so, it stands to reason that if Alistair is King he will be referred to one way or another. So maybe a cameo, or maybe just a reference.

Surely that's the point.  You have an independent organisation trying to sort through a presumable world-wide chaos. So the first question would be who is in charge? I'm just glad we don't have to call on the King of Ferelden for help.



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Oh. My mistake then. He just sounds very different.

Truly, the only difference is his expanded character and vocabulary.

I'm not going to bother with looking up the source right now, but according to Gaider, "expanding" Sandal like they did took him a little too close to something he wasn't quite comfortable with handling in the game. And personally, I'd prefer if they were a lot more careful when handling mental disabilities.

And considering how off the topic I am already, I'll leave it at that.
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There are a lot of characters in the DA world, it would honestly be a bit tough to bring everyone.  Especially since some of the characters may or may not be dead.  I would imagine we may see as DLC, an expansion, or another game later on.  But we can't have everyone and we simply have to play the cards we are dealt with, or in this case the game.



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Hummm, just a passing thought, but would it be reasonable to assume that Alistair may not be appearing because he's a potential King, and perhaps one of the many reasons all the fractions are in such a state of chaos is because Ferelden doesn't have a ruler?  :ph34r: 

I haven't heard any word of Anora's voice actress appearing either, and we all know that the Warden disappears regardless of if they become King/Queen. So maybe all the potential rulers of Ferelden will be gone in DAI. Could be interlinked with the whole dragon blood thing from the comics as well. 

 

Either way, I can understand Alistair not appearing (even if it'd be nice to see him in a cameo). Inquisitor isn't exactly hanging around in Ferelden's side of the map. 



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I'll be honest. This kind of makes me sad.

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@BabyFratelli - But we know the Inquisitor will be traveling from eastern Ferelden to western Orlais, Denerim being somewhere in the middle of that.  What with the politics involved in this game (Empress Celene, et al) it makes more sense for King Alistair to be making a cameo now than how he did in DA2.  I'm positive he'll be mentioned, at the least.



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I think it's important for him to be in the game, or at least for the Ruler of the Ferelden to be in the game. If the Inquisitor is going to be having dealings with heads of state, then one would think either Anora or Alistair would be one of the people he or she meets given the area the Inquisitor is going to be dealing.



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@BabyFratelli - But we know the Inquisitor will be traveling from eastern Ferelden to western Orlais, Denerim being somewhere in the middle of that.  What with the politics involved in this game (Empress Celene, et al) it makes more sense for King Alistair to be making a cameo now than how he did in DA2.  I'm positive he'll be mentioned, at the least.


Definitely mentioned, especially if he is king in a play through. What I meant was, that since it makes sense for him to appear because of DAI's plot the only reason I can think King-him wouldn't is if something has happened to him. Like, being kidnapped/murdered/incapacitated somehow. 



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I don't understand why everyone is dismissing the idea that it will be a different voice actor....

 

But that's just me

 

 

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KaiserShep said:
Technically, Morrigan never really lied either. She even tells you that Flemeth won't actually die should you choose to fight her, and eventually discloses about her plan when it's the right time.
 
I agree with you but didn't want this to be about her.  Alistair keeps a vital secret and reveals it waayy too late. 


Yeah, that did bother me. Glad the Warden has the ability to express resentment over the whole thing.

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Definitely mentioned, especially if he is king in a play through. What I meant was, that since it makes sense for him to appear because of DAI's plot the only reason I can think King-him wouldn't is if something has happened to him. Like, being kidnapped/murdered/incapacitated somehow. 

 

Or maybe he's AWOL in search of the missing Warden? Leliana knew they were missing, so I would think King Alistair would be informed (especially if he's married to her, heh).



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This is really unexpected (for me at least).  I always assumed his awkward cameo in DA:2 was meant to keep him fresh in our minds so he could make a smoother appearance in the next game :(



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Or maybe he's AWOL in search of the missing Warden? Leliana knew they were missing, so I would think King Alistair would be informed (especially if he's married to her, heh).


... that's definitely a better option than going straight to assuming he's dead.  :rolleyes:


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I don't understand why everyone is dismissing the idea that it will be a different voice actor....

 

But that's just me

 

 

*goes back into corner*

That is quite possible, though the reasons why are a little unclear if so.



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That is quite possible, though the reasons why are a little unclear if so.

 

I don't think Mordin's VA was even approached for the job in ME3 iirc so you never know, could be money, could be they found someone else to do, perhaps he really won't appear, or maybe he played DA2, I can't say for sure obviously



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I don't think Mordin's VA was even approached for the job in ME3 iirc so you never know, could be money, could be they found someone else to do, perhaps he really won't appear, or maybe he played DA2, I can't say for sure obviously

 

I heard it was a money thing with Mordin's VA



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It's not beyond the realm of possibility that they just haven't gotten around to it yet. But I wouldn't mind if he doesn't show up, forced cameos are awkward.