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[KnightofPhoenix]

We all know that the Qunari are a force to be recknoned with. Physically powerful and technologically advanced, it took multiple exalted march to push them back. So I ask. Were the Grey Wardens interested in recruiting Qunari into their ranks, and / or form a treaty with them? Surely, the Qun's power and technology must have interested the Wardens, as a weapon against future blights.

This also makes me wonder. Did the Wardens participate in the Exalted marches against the Qunari? On one hand, the Qunari invaded nations in Thedas where the Grey Wardens were present, so I can imagine them fighting the invaders. On the otherhand, the Wardens are only (or mostly) interested in the Blight. So how much were they involved in the wars against the Qunari?

The Qunari have been in Thedas for 4 centuries. And their power adn technology is impressive. Did the Grey Wardens attempt to negotiate with the Qunari? Seeing that the Qun do not know much, or anything, about the Blight (Sten was sent to gather info about this), the answer is probably no. But did the Wardens at least try to make contact and explain their purpose? Or did they not see that the Qunari can be powerful allies against future blights?

EDIT: By Qunari, I do not mean individual rebel Qunaris (it is poissible that some were recruited). But rather the Qunari as a nation and Empire.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 21 janvier 2010 - 07:48 .

[Mary Kirby]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

This also makes me wonder. Did the Wardens participate in the Exalted marches against the Qunari? On one hand, the Qunari invaded nations in Thedas where the Grey Wardens were present, so I can imagine them fighting the invaders. On the otherhand, the Wardens are only (or mostly) interested in the Blight. So how much were they involved in the wars against the Qunari?

Wardens don't participate in Exalted Marches.  They don't care if the country they're in gets invaded.   They are politically
neutral -- they don't go to war unless it is against darkspawn.  This is crucial for them: They can't count on the support of the nations of Thedas in the event of a Blight if they start picking sides in territorial or religious wars.  They'd be in danger of losing the Right of Conscription as well.

The Qunari have been in Thedas for 4 centuries. And their power adn technology is impressive. Did the Grey Wardens attempt to negotiate with the Qunari? Seeing that the Qun do not know much, or anything, about the Blight (Sten was sent to gather info about this), the answer is probably no. But did the Wardens at least try to make contact and explain their purpose? Or did they not see that the Qunari can be powerful allies against future blights?

EDIT: By Qunari, I do not mean individual rebel Qunaris (it is poissible that some were recruited). But rather the Qunari as a nation and Empire.

The Qunari of Par Vollen would probably allow at least some talks with the Wardens, but if there is anything the Qunari are incapable of, it's political neutrality.  They wouldn't even try to pretend to be doing that.  Would they be willing to put aside their own interests in order to fight the common enemy that the Blight represents?  Maybe, but a) They don't currently know what Blights are, so persuading them to do that would have been really tricky.  Even if they understood the danger, and agreed to help fight and not conquer anybody afterward, you'd never in a million years persuade any country where a Blight was starting to let them in.  Nobody (except maybe Rivain) is filled with joy by the sight of the antaam massing on their doorstep.

Modifié par Mary Kirby, 21 janvier 2010 - 08:58 .

[Mary Kirby]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Well, if Sten reports back to the antaam about the danger of blights, would they try and get GW of their own?

And in that case, how would they go about it?

Well, the simplest solution would be to assimilate-- er, open negotiations with the Grey Wardens.  What would come of that, however, is anybody's guess.  

[Mary Kirby]

My suggestion to any Grey Warden commanders trying to persuade the Qunari to let them take potential recruits out of Seheron and Par Vollen: Bring a lot of baked goods.  If the Arishok ends talks and throws you out, just lay a trail of cookies outside the city, and wait for recruits to come to you...

[Mary Kirby]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Those silly Qunari and their fascination with baked goods.

Is sugar against the Qun or something?

No, they have sugar.  Their lack of sweets comes from an overabundance of pre-planning. Most cultures came up with cookies and cakes as a means of using up leftover bread dough.  Qunari are too efficient to have leftovers.  Which makes a lack of cookies their tragic flaw.

Herr Uhl wrote...

But they are warriors, the women have not gone from Par Vollen IIRC.

Edit: Well some might have gone during the occupation.

There are qunari women in Rivain.  There are females who flee to join the Tal'Vashoth (which is who all those "Qunari Mercenaries" are.) and they live scattered all over northern Thedas.

[Mary Kirby]

ckriley wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...

My suggestion to any Grey Warden commanders trying to persuade the Qunari to let them take potential recruits out of Seheron and Par Vollen: Bring a lot of baked goods.  If the Arishok ends talks and throws you out, just lay a trail of cookies outside the city, and wait for recruits to come to you...

I was so shocked when I was talking to Sten and mentioned giving him some cookies, and his approval rating shot up by like 23 points or something.

I thought it was a bug or I read it wrong.  Single highest approval jump in the entire game.

I'm telling you, with enough cookies, you could steal the entire antaam before the Qunari knew what had happened.