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[Felya87]

Quantum Break is for Xbox one, so for me is a "no" regardless. May try it if it will be on PS4 too. otherwise, no buy. U_U

[syllogi]

That pic from yesterday is a female Inquisitor, yes. The one that Aaron Flynn tweeted. Elu asked him about it and Aaron confirmed in a follow-up tweet that it is, indeed, a female sword & shield warrior Inquisitor.

 

Hmm.  Hopefully this means they're planning on showing more at E3.  If it's a teaser, totally understandable, but as far as giving them kudos, I'll wait until they show the front of a female player character ingame, and even more if we get to hear at least one version of her voice.

[Momiji.mii]

Hmm.  Hopefully this means they're planning on showing more at E3.  If it's a teaser, totally understandable, but as far as giving them kudos, I'll wait until they show the front of a female player character ingame, and even more if we get to hear at least one version of her voice.

 

The way she was facing away from the camera in the picture makes me think that they'll use her to show us the gameplay and a bit of that forested area. Keeping my fingers crossed. 

[Nefla]

let's hope they put at least a pick of her on the website too, with the playable races too...a little tweet is still just for fans who already know about the customization of DAI. what I think is really important, is that they show those customization to the masses.

 

uhm...I have quite a few game to keep an eye on, now. Transistor, Remember me, Child of Light, Bound by Flames. I can't say I will suffer of boredom waiting DAI.

I would definitely recommend NOT getting Bound by Flames. I bought it based on the mention here that you can play a woman and it's pretty bad. The companion interaction is really shallow, there are only a handful of areas in the entire game (and all the exact same enemies you fought before always respawn in the same place so you have to kill them a million times) the combat system is clunky and feels like a crappy version of TW2, the "romances" are a single 5 second scene toward the end and when you beat the game there's no ending cinematic, just a guy talking.

[Char]

I would definitely recommend NOT getting Bound by Flames. I bought it based on the mention here that you can play a woman and it's pretty bad. The companion interaction is really shallow, there are only a handful of areas in the entire game (and all the exact same enemies you fought before always respawn in the same place so you have to kill them a million times) the combat system is clunky and feels like a crappy version of TW2, the "romances" are a single 5 second scene toward the end and when you beat the game there's no ending cinematic, just a guy talking.

Thanks for the heads up, it was on the top of my 'To Buy' list because it sounded fun, but it sounds a lot less fun than the packaging describes in that case

[AkiKishi]

That's incorrect there is an ending with a cinematic. It's kind of obvious why the others don't have one.. The monsters are placed by location, so if you do a lot of grinding you will fight a lot of the same things. However, you don't gain much from grinding in the game. The difference between level 25 and 27 (the maximum without driving myself nuts was meaningless). Also, you don't gain hps by leveling, you gain them by doing side quests. Each companion has a couple of side quests you need to do in order to get their approval.Combat is MUCH better than Witcher 2, but similiar in that its reaction based. It's not a game you would play for the romances but I enjoyed it a lot, enough to get the platinum trophy and play it 4 times.

 

Child of Light has a good initial impression but it's really really tedious combat which changes very little and the skills are basically upgrades of previous skills so things don't change much. 

[tmp7704]

I think a lot of people underestimate how many games simply don't have a fixed protagonist, period. I wouldn't even say that "most games have a male lead" is true, not by a long shot.

Unfortunately I can't find the actual chart with cursory search, but someone did the heavy lifting and this article summarizes their finding.

Looking at a sample of 669 games that had protagonists with discernible genders, only 24 had exclusively female protagonists. Action had the most female protagonists, shooters had even less, and role-playing games had exactly one game with a female only hero. In all three genres, a little under 300 games gave the option of a female lead. That includes games where you can choose your gender or create your own character.

So, leaving aside the embarrassing fact that only 3% of games have exclusively female lead, the games where you don't have the fixed (male) lead make under ~45%. That means yes, statement that "most games have a male lead" is true, by a decent margin.

(the study focused on three popular genres: action games, shooters and RPGs because "We looked across many genres, but not many genres make your protagonist super apparent. When you’re playing a racing game, you can’t usually tell the gender because you’re the car")

[Felya87]

I would definitely recommend NOT getting Bound by Flames. I bought it based on the mention here that you can play a woman and it's pretty bad. The companion interaction is really shallow, there are only a handful of areas in the entire game (and all the exact same enemies you fought before always respawn in the same place so you have to kill them a million times) the combat system is clunky and feels like a crappy version of TW2, the "romances" are a single 5 second scene toward the end and when you beat the game there's no ending cinematic, just a guy talking.

 

uhmm...I'll take in consideration your experience, but I had completely different opinions from friends who buyed the game. they where quite happy of it, they found it had flaws and all, but since it's made by a little SH, the same of Mars: war logs, and never had (from what I understand) made a fantasy RPG, expecially without fixed protagonist, they found it quite enjoiable, and promising.

I'll wait and see myself.

[jlb524]

The way she was facing away from the camera in the picture makes me think that they'll use her to show us the gameplay and a bit of that forested area. Keeping my fingers crossed. 

 

I hope that's not all b/c then we won't hear her

[Momiji.mii]

I hope that's not all b/c then we won't hear her

 

Hopefully there will be someone there to talk to.

[AkiKishi]

uhmm...I'll take in consideration your experience, but I had completely different opinions from friends who buyed the game. they where quite happy of it, they found it had flaws and all, but since it's made by a little SH, the same of Mars: war logs, and never had (from what I understand) made a fantasy RPG, expecially without fixed protagonist, they found it quite enjoiable, and promising.

I'll wait and see myself.

 

They made Orcs and Men but Bound by Flame is a massive step up from anything they have done before. Orcs and Men was kinda cool, not often you get to be an Orc and Goblin and play the heroes.

[Felya87]

They made Orcs and Men but Bound by Flame is a massive step up from anything they have done before. Orcs and Men was kinda cool, not often you get to be an Orc and Goblin and play the heroes.

I didn't know this. well, that make me even more curious. I didn't play Orcs and Men, but I have heard interesting things about it. Seems like Bound by Flame deserve a try, a least.

I had tried the demo of Mars: war Logs, but it didn't impressed me enough to decide to play more (the fixed protagonist was a let down, I must admit. maybe one day I'll try it again.) but some things were cute, expecially the gameplay wasn't bad.

[oceanicsurvivor]

I've sunk an hour or two into Bound by Flame and really regret purchasing it. I know I should give it more time...but that would mean playing it again. It's a real catch 22.

[Lady Nuggins]

I was only listing games that have no lead at all, I wasn't even getting into games that have female protagonists or let you choose to create either a male or female protagonist.

 

There was a game released just a few weeks ago, called Transistor, where you do play as a badass female, save the day and get a hot guy. As a woman. And it is going to consoles. But since it wasn't a triple A game few people here, if any, seem to have heard of it. Or Child of Light, an RPG that was released a month or two ago and featured a princess saving her kingdom through strength and resolve, also on consoles, but again, more of an indie game and never mentioned here despite being exactly what people claim to want. They aren't exactly "hidden treasures", I saw adverts for the latter on youtube and hear about the former from a friend. 

 

I saw it on the last few pages. People listing great games with female leads and others going "But that's an indie game" or "But that's a Japanese game" and that is the problem. It strikes less of 'Barely any games have female leads' and more 'I'm not willing to broaden my horizons and play these games with female leads because they aren't triple A'. 

 

The last two recently released and incredibly fun games I've been playing both featured female leads, and were a delight to play. 

 

Yes "there arent many female leads in AAA games" is a legitimate complaint, but as we speak many female led games are waiting to be green-lit in places like steam. If people really care that much about female protagonists in gaming they should be there voting them, playing less well-known games with female leads and spreading the word about them, not sitting here complaining about straight white male leads until the cows come home, which won't change anything.

 

I am playing and enjoying Child of Light.  If I had a PS4, I'd try out Transistor.  I actually play a number of indie games with female leads (even though I'm not a PC gamer and don't have a steam account).  Unfortunately, much as I love indie games (it's usually where I spend most of my time at PAX), they're all so short and limited and leave me with a vague sense of wanting more.  And while I used to love JRPGs, I find a lot of modern ones really monotonous.  

 

The thing is that the only reason I heard about Child of Light is because female gamers on Tumblr were passing around the trailer and telling each other to BUY THIS GAME RIGHT NOW because it's a game with a female protagonist.  People are going out there and supporting these female-driven indie games.  That doesn't mean it's not still frustrating that we only really get indie games.

 

Can we please see more of a rocky Horror picture show, tim curry like cross dressing inquisitor?  It's totally unfair that they are just showing male and female inquizes in heavy armour.

 

I know you're trying to be flippant and make fun of us, but... why not?  That would be a nice change.  Screw gender norms.  

[Nefla]

I've sunk an hour or two into Bound by Flame and really regret purchasing it. I know I should give it more time...but that would mean playing it again. It's a real catch 22.

I didn't absolutely hate it, there were a few decent aspects but overall I find it to be a chore and even though I played all the way through (super bored and no other games I hadn't beaten a million times) I wouldn't play it again. It all depends on what you like in a game. I play for

 

-Characters (the characters were not very fleshed out and you can only have one companion at a time)

-Roleplaying (there is almost none. You can choose to let the demon possess you or not and there are a few binary decisions along the way)

-Story (there wasn't much of one and not much going on other than running around and fighting)

-General plot (you are the chosen one who is the only one capable of saving the world from the evil wizards and their undead armies)

-Sidequests (these had little if any plot attached and involved things like killing monsters to get ingredients)

-Exploration (there was very little to see and do, and enemies regenerate quickly so you have to keep killing the same monsters over and over)

-Character creation and customization (super limited, you pick between 5 preset faces and 6 preset hairstyles for each gender and can't edit anything including eye/hair/skin color. At least you can be a lady though, her voice over was more fitting)

 

I don't play for combat but that's like 95% of the game and it's not a system I like. The number of abilities you have access to is pretty limited and not that varied, dodging is clunky and you can only hop backwards not to the side or roll out of the way (and you can only do it in the rogue-like combat stance) all of the female enemies are sexed up which made me roll my eyes. I wish there had been some giant monster boss battles or battles where you had to use the terrain or something to win instead of just block-parry-attack repeated over and over.

[Brass_Buckles]

 

A large part of the reason for more male leads is historical. In the case of Sniper 3 as much as someone might want to put in a female character, it's just not appropriate.

 

Edited to add my reply because my shift key and stuff are giving me problems, and it posted before I could type...

 

Why is it inappropriate for a woman to be a sniper?  Did you know that the most deadly sniper in history was a woman?  I believe she was a Russian, back in WWII.  In various non-USA nations, women have long been included in the military as front-line combatants.  And now this is also true in the USA.

[oceanicsurvivor]

I didn't absolutely hate it, there were a few decent aspects but overall I find it to be a chore and even though I played all the way through (super bored and no other games I hadn't beaten a million times) I wouldn't play it again. It all depends on what you like in a game. I play for

 

*snip*

 

I mean, I play for a lot of the same reasons. But I also love combat heavy games like Dark Souls. This game doesn't have an enjoyable combat system (for me). And Dark Souls combat was a comparison I heard a lot going in...but Dark Souls has variety and precision. Hard gameplay because its restrictive and clunky isn't the same thing as what Dark Souls does. It's too bad, since I was hoping it would hold me over till...October 6th at 11:59 pm.

Edited to add my reply because my shift key and stuff are giving me problems, and it posted before I could type...

 

Why is it inappropriate for a woman to be a sniper?  Did you know that the most deadly sniper in history was a woman?  I believe she was a Russian, back in WWII.  In various non-USA nations, women have long been included in the military as front-line combatants.  And now this is also true in the USA.

 

Oy, women not receiving credit and/or being erased from the history we teach is another, very upsetting, conversation. So few games are bound by 'historical accuracy'...heck, I've never seen a game start with 'Based on a true story'. At most, its alternate history. But very few take place in history like that, so it being inappropriate to the setting (if there was any truth to that claim at all, which, there isn't), is an argument that is only potentially relevant to a small handful of titles to begin with.

[Gileadan]

Why is it inappropriate for a woman to be a sniper?  Did you know that the most deadly sniper in history was a woman?  I believe she was a Russian, back in WWII.  In various non-USA nations, women have long been included in the military as front-line combatants.  And now this is also true in the USA.

The RTS Company of Heroes 2 actually randomly spawns Soviet soldiers (snipers, tank crews, Ilyushin pilots, but not common infantry) as females.

[Mockingword]

I've sunk an hour or two into Bound by Flame and really regret purchasing it. I know I should give it more time...but that would mean playing it again. It's a real catch 22.

More like Bland by Flame.

 

I'd turn it in for store credit, but then some poor sap might buy it.

[Lady Nuggins]

Oy, women not receiving credit and/or being erased from the history we teach is another, very upsetting, conversation. So few games are bound by 'historical accuracy'...heck, I've never seen a game start with 'Based on a true story'. At most, its alternate history. But very few take place in history like that, so it being inappropriate to the setting (if there was any truth to that claim at all, which, there isn't), is an argument that is only potentially relevant to a small handful of titles to begin with.

 

Do we have to bring up "We Have Always Fought" again?  Women have always been leaders and fighters.  There have been female soldiers, pilots, thieves, pirates, everything.  They may not have always been common, but what video game protagonist is ever common?  And yeah, very few games are based on actual history, and those that are take so many liberties for the interest of more exciting story and gameplay that it makes no sense to get stuck on historical accuracy for this one particular thing.  

 

Though, I can think of a couple interesting ways in which a traditionally female role could be made into a game.  Imagine, say, a field nurse having to traverse a war-torn landscape to rescue and heal wounded soldiers.  

[Mockingword]

Though, I can think of a couple interesting ways in which a traditionally female role could be made into a game.  Imagine, say, a field nurse having to traverse a war-torn landscape to rescue and heal wounded soldiers.  

Pfft! Who'd want to play that? Video games are about cool and exciting things, like stamping passports.

[Mes]

Though, I can think of a couple interesting ways in which a traditionally female role could be made into a game.  Imagine, say, a field nurse having to traverse a war-torn landscape to rescue and heal wounded soldiers.  

 

That'd be pretty freakin' cool. I'd play that game in a heartbeat.

 

I saw an idea on Tumblr ages ago, of a zombie apocalypse in 1950's American suburbia affecting only the men, so all the housewives suddenly have to tie their hair back, change their heels for combat boots, and pick up rifles to shoot some zombies. Lots of opportunity for incredible character development in a story like that. Your housewife protagonist could start out timid and "proper", then by the end of her experience she blossoms out of the cage of tradition and propriety and sexism that had been forced down her throat by her mother, her grandmother, and the society she had grown up in.  

 

And once the day is saved and the apocalypse passes and the surviving men return home, a new era of equality and respect dawns.

 

I dunno. So many people sound like broken records trying to explain away the lack of female protagonists. "But there weren't any women soldiers." BAH. Where's the creativity? The imagination? The drive to create amazing games with men AND women?

[tmp7704]

Though, I can think of a couple interesting ways in which a traditionally female role could be made into a game.  Imagine, say, a field nurse having to traverse a war-torn landscape to rescue and heal wounded soldiers.

[Lady Nuggins]

 

Too bad you couldn't find a female one.

[tmp7704]

Too bad you couldn't find a female one.

Yup, Team Fortress 2 is pretty much 'all dudes, all the time' to the point where the gender of one character that wasn't confirmed to be male is an ongoing joke. Unfortunately I can't off the bat think of any shooter game with specialized healer class that'd also allow female characters.

On the upside, cosplay to the rescue:

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