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Oh god, the ACU shitfest. Not one but 4 white, angry dudebros WITH stubble. Such diversity! Wow. I couldn't believe it when i saw the pic and then i laughed so hard. It was hysterical, let me tell u.

 

It still baffles me why they couldn't use 2 women in the party or hell, even one damn woman considering how many great assassin women are playable in their multiplayer.

 

I don't get Ubisoft. I really don't. :mellow:

 

Wow that's hilarious. And I was thinking during the whole trailer how awesome it'd be if the lead was female.


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#3327
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Wow that's hilarious. And I was thinking during the whole trailer how awesome it'd be if the lead was female.

 

Oh god, that would be f00king awesome...


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Oh god, that would be f00king awesome...

 

Also one would think it'd be easier to sneak in a group as entertainers than a bunch of dudes just skulking around but *shrug*



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Well, I gotta say, especially from what I'm hearing about other games and how they are presenting women and minorities, I am very glad to have remained a Bioware fan post-ME3.

 

Whatever crap people say about EA, they are improving at listening to their fans; BioWare is the proof of that.

 

Also the more posts Allan makes, the more I seriously want to send him cookies or something.  If I were wealthy I'd buy a huge amount of Brookside chocolate and send it to BioWare.

 

I adored the Lady Qunari Inquisitor.  And the Inquisitor voiceover in the companions trailer.  And, okay pretty much all the epic "Hey you can be a woman" ness.  I haven't poked at any of the other E3 stuff because frankly it doesn't interest me much.  I don't want to be a BioWare-only gamer, and, well, I'm not.  But it seems like increasingly, what I like in games is only available through BioWare or through independent developers.  I'm not just talking the ability to play as a woman, but also how women are treated by the game franchise as a whole, and how the story is presented, and well... other things too.  I can play a game without much story; I'm actually pretty fond of creative games like Minecraft and Starbound, in limited doses.  But what gets me drooling are the kinds of games BioWare makes--games with excellent stories, great writing, interesting characters--games that make me want to do honest-to-goodness fan art (which I hardly ever do).


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It's just a poster/advertisement. 

 

They do that more so out of tradition at this point. I'm fairly certain the lot of them aren't like.

 

"**** WOMEN WE ONLY CATER FOR MEN"



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It's just a poster/advertisement. 

 

They do that more so out of tradition at this point. I'm fairly certain the lot of them aren't like.

 

"**** WOMEN WE ONLY CATER FOR MEN"

 

It was two demos, a CGI trailer, and the cover of the game. All released at the biggest gaming event of the year. <_< So not 'just' anything.

 

With no mention of co-op customization, which would have alleviated my complete (and totally justified) disappointment ever so slightly.


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It's just a poster/advertisement. 

 

They do that more so out of tradition at this point. I'm fairly certain the lot of them aren't like.

 

"**** WOMEN WE ONLY CATER FOR MEN"

 

If they don't notice that they are excluding an entire gender, that in itself is a problem.


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It does because it shows that the advertising was a failure. Femsheps advertising attracted more males than females to the game as a %. Playing as both would just cancel out.What did you think of the Femshep advertising ? Did it attract female gamers? Or was it a male fantasy?
 
That stat came from Bioware. I think I linked the source a few pages back.

I went back 10 pages or so but didn't find anything. Not even any actual numbers, nevermind links. Given my own search of BioWare-supplied data turned up different results the statement about numbers decrease seems arguable, at best, and there's no point in any serious discussion using it as base point until it can be actually established.

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It's just a poster/advertisement. 

 

They do that more so out of tradition at this point. I'm fairly certain the lot of them aren't like.

 

"**** WOMEN WE ONLY CATER FOR MEN"

 

Ah yes, the ancient holy tradition of white stubbled men climbing up walls.  We must not desecrate this sacred ritual.


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It's just a poster/advertisement. 

 

They do that more so out of tradition at this point. I'm fairly certain the lot of them aren't like.

 

"**** WOMEN WE ONLY CATER FOR MEN"

 

That's pretty much what i get from the sea of dudebros with stubble.


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As a man with shortish facial hair, I resent being lumped in with the dudebro crowd.  :(



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Well, I gotta say, especially from what I'm hearing about other games and how they are presenting women and minorities, I am very glad to have remained a Bioware fan post-ME3.

 

Whatever crap people say about EA, they are improving at listening to their fans; BioWare is the proof of that.

 

Also the more posts Allan makes, the more I seriously want to send him cookies or something.  If I were wealthy I'd buy a huge amount of Brookside chocolate and send it to BioWare.

 

I adored the Lady Qunari Inquisitor.  And the Inquisitor voiceover in the companions trailer.  And, okay pretty much all the epic "Hey you can be a woman" ness.  I haven't poked at any of the other E3 stuff because frankly it doesn't interest me much.  I don't want to be a BioWare-only gamer, and, well, I'm not.  But it seems like increasingly, what I like in games is only available through BioWare or through independent developers.  I'm not just talking the ability to play as a woman, but also how women are treated by the game franchise as a whole, and how the story is presented, and well... other things too.  I can play a game without much story; I'm actually pretty fond of creative games like Minecraft and Starbound, in limited doses.  But what gets me drooling are the kinds of games BioWare makes--games with excellent stories, great writing, interesting characters--games that make me want to do honest-to-goodness fan art (which I hardly ever do).

 

Same.

 

I dunno why, but I just had this feeling BioWare was gonna break the mold at E3 this time and feature a Lady Inquisitor lead for some of it. And I was so proud of them for what they did.

 

I feel so much love for them right now.

 

But yeah, I feel ya on the expense of providing the team with yummy edibles. LOL I am waiting until DA:I releases. I know it's gonna be awesome anyway, but then I can have time to save my pennies to send them a big, large "thank you" care package from Fuss Cupcakes afterwards. :)  <3


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Same.

 

I dunno why, but I just had this feeling BioWare was gonna break the mold at E3 this time and feature a Lady Inquisitor lead for some of it. And I was so proud of them for what they did.

 

I feel so much love for them right now.

 

But yeah, I feel ya on the expense of providing the team with yummy edibles. LOL I am waiting until DA:I releases. I know it's gonna be awesome anyway, but then I can have time to save my pennies to send them a big, large "thank you" care package from Fuss Cupcakes afterwards. :)  <3

 

I feel the same way! I'd totally chip in on a group gift to say thanks for being awesome. They'd deserve it. <3


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Because your arguments thus far are focusing on data.  My example is to point out that I think you're being too cavalier with the data that supports your position, and dismissive of anything that doesn't, and that data has more than meets the eye in its correlations.  Never mind the arbitrary measuring stick of comparing it to fixed protagonists.  The multitude of confounding variables in this comparison is staggering.  I do not believe that Mass Effect would sell more with a fixed protagonist.

 

The reality is this: our game had a FemShep themed trailer, and by your own words ME3 was our best seller.  It gives a compelling argument that the trailer didn't hurt the sales.  It's a similar revelation we had with the inclusion of gay content.  "Interesting.... it didn't seem to have an effect."

 

Because this thread is simply about some people saying "hey show me" and breaking down the convention that "if you do this, it's bad for the game."

 

As you say: "it made no difference."  Maybe that means we can do stuff like this because it doesn't actually matter.  Because at its core this thread is a group of fans that say "we'd really appreciate it."  And I'm a pretty big supporter of fans going "Hey, I think this company is awesome" and the trickle effect it can have beyond the scope of standard marketing.

<3  :crying:  <3 We really do appreciate it so much!

 

 

What I don't understand is why people are against more diverse marketing. It's supposed to be a good thing, right? Yet every few pages on this thread there is someone arguing against it. I think we should give the developers more reasons to reconsider their stance on this and not looking for reasons, why it shouldn't be done. So, here is mine.

 

I am male, 38 years old and I always play as a female character in RPGs. Why? Well, I could tell you that I think it's more interesting to play as a character of a different gender than mine. I could tell you that while playing a male character my moral views tend to shape the character, which I don't like. Or I could tell you that I am sick and tired of almost the same male characters that are used in media over and over. But I wanna put it simple and tell you that I play female characters because I can. Because Bioware lets me do it and this makes their games more fun to play. So Bioware, please keep creating this great games, but at the same time don't forget the players who like to play as a female character.

 

Btw, I just watched the E3 female qunari demo and I think was amazing. I am now officially excited for this game. It would be great if I could just get more excited about the companions, but I guess it will happen sooner or later.

Thank you sir, for restoring some of my faith in mankind!

 

So you believe that the best way to make DAI stand out is to use the exact same tactic as every other game at E3, and join the ranks of the stubbled white 30-something dudebros?  So far, I have seen absolutely no indication that DAI has suffered from lack of press by having a different tactic.  If anything, they are avoiding the backlash that many other games are experiencing right now for doing just that.  All the articles I can find about DAI are positive.  I see journalists already saying that it's looking to be game of the year.  DAI is really not suffering at E3.

 

It's a little false to make it sound like ME had equal representation for Femshep.  One trailer that was online only, appearing mere weeks before the release of the third game of a trilogy, really is not solid enough representation to tell us anything.  Do you think much of the wider audience ever even saw that trailer?

Indeed. I only saw that trailer because I was sifting through the BSN daily. It didn't crop up anywhere else for me online and wasn't on tv. Even if it had been, I think ME3's marketing was the most male oriented (and to me boring) of the three. ME1 "many choices lie ahead, none of them easy" (ooh choices! and it's not all combat which would have blurred it into every other generic shooter for me) ME2 had a focus on the companions (wimminz like them social and romantic aspects) and though there was combat it was varied and interesting (Thane with his assassinating, Grunt and the Thresher maw) but ME3 made me think of a generic shooter. There were monsters, destruction, and shooting but nothing about the story, choices, ropleplaying, or companions. If I hadn't played the first two I wouldn't have bought ME3 at all based on those trailers and ads.

 

Spoiler

Yes, from left to right we have: stubbly man with round face, stubbly smirking man, stubbly McPointy chin, and on the far right, the oh so delicate stubbly man with high cheek bones. They also had to coordinate their facial hair you see...unity and all. :rolleyes:

 

I am so so so glad for DragonAge and it's lovely femQunari demo It was amazing and definitely stood out from the crowd.

You mean that isn't them showing different outfits on the same guy? :huh:

 

Thank you for the links! IGN said over and over 'so this looks like Elder Scrolls Oblivion' to the point I had to stop streaming for a bit. so much rage.

 

Honestly, its pretty sad when you have 4 main characters and 'diversity' would be adding a blonde man to the line up. :?  Or god forbid someone clean shaven

Ick, this is just pushing that "only straight white men with stubble and dark hair sell!!11!!1one!!1" to the worst extreme :sick: No loss for me though, I stopped liking AC after the second game.

 

As a man with shortish facial hair, I resent being lumped in with the dudebro crowd.  :(

Don't worry, dudebro is a state of mind not a look! Unfortunately those unsavory and boring characters almost exclusively have those features, but there's nothing wrong with being a straight white male with dark hair and stubble, it's just we would like to see other things too :D


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I posted this in the Samantha Traynor romance thread since AWR is her VA. I don't believe it hurt if I post it here as well

 

Spoiler


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When I heard the femquisitor I immediately thought of Maro Vizhen from SWtOR, I dunno if it's the same actress:

http://youtu.be/YJOeaT6XSec



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As a man with shortish facial hair, I resent being lumped in with the dudebro crowd.  :(

"It is not the dudebro on the outside that matters. True dudebro-ness lies within."

~Confucius 


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After reading an article like this I am even more grateful to Bioware for the variety, the time and energy they put into a game. After seeing FemQunari Inquisitor at E3 today its so awesome to see how much Bioware listens to their fans and that we do have a voice, we are being heard. :) So thank you Bioware. Thus far you have been the highlight of E3 for me.



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Seriously, I can not stop looking at her...  It's distracting me from work!

 

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LOOOOOOOKKKKK!


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Seriously, I can not stop looking at her...  It's distracting me from work!

 

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LOOOOOOOKKKKK!

 

AHA! I knew that was war paint or a tattoo I saw on her! Yesssssssssssssss different tattoos finally :lol:  Now hopefully I can put some scars too  :wub:


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AHA! I knew that was war paint or a tattoo I saw on her! Yesssssssssssssss different tattoos finally :lol:  Now hopefully I can put some scars too  :wub:

 

Yes, the only unfortunate side effect of her reveal is that now I feel alarmingly impatient for a better look at the character creator. :lol:

 

 

And The keep.

 

 

And the game. :unsure:


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Yes, the only unfortunate side effect of her reveal is that now I feel alarmingly impatient for a better look at the character creator. :lol:

 

 

And The keep.

 

 

And the game. :unsure:

:lol:  Same here though I dread the hours I'll spend trying to make a PC instead of playing the game.


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:lol:  Same here though I dread the hours I'll spend trying to make a PC instead of playing the game.

 

haha, I've accepted that I'll have the opening cinematic memorized long before I ever see a character reach level 2. :P


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haha, I've accepted that I'll have the opening cinematic memorized long before I ever see a character reach level 2. :P

Same! Hopefully we'll get something to change our looks if we're not happy with the in game result like in DA2, I sure could have used something like that in ME2 and ME3


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I'm not going to get Assassin's Creed(even though it's what got me into gaming), but I'm more excited for DAI than ever!